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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:00 PM
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Know Your DLC: Mark Penn
Mark Penn Source Watch profile
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mark_Penn

Consider the fact that Mark Penn is still conducting POLLS and providing other SUPPORT to the Hillary Rodham Clinton Presidential Campaign.

Know Your DLC.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:14 PM
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1. Smart thinking, btd.
DLC under Clintons has become BFEE Lite.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:16 PM
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2. Yep, it's obvious to all that love the truth, the bitter truth, blm.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:26 PM
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4. The truth is a bitter pill to swallow even if you try to sugar coat it
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."


Carl Sagan
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:07 PM
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11. "Billions and billions of bamboozlements..."
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:24 PM
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3. blm you know as well as I
They are not separate entities....they are one and the same. The DLC is there to control the Democratic party and render them ineffective so the big boy neo-cons can run the show, majority or not. Either that or the DLC are just incredibly stupid and gullible, which is a premise I roundly reject.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:29 PM
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5. I know. And why I refuse to relent.
Popularity isn't my 'thing' here anyway. ;)))

I just want eyes opened. If Open Government Democrats aren't going to be the ones to STOP this fascist march, WHO WILL?
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:34 PM
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6. Well, you're popular enough with me
My eyes have been open for some time.

That stupid Senator scoring thing I did a couple of years back really convinced me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:38 PM
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9. It wasn't stupid, at all. It was the type of calculation NEEDED to educate voters and activists
because it was based on a more comprehensive overview than most every other one out there.


Never bemoan any honest attempt to educate with the TRUTH.

In fact, I hope you do more of it. Things are rarely what they seem.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:32 AM
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18. What stupid Senator scoring thing?
It doesn't seem like it'd be a stupid idea to me, anyway...
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:35 PM
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7. K & R!
:kick:
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:37 PM
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8. Mark Penn, Charles Black, and FISA lobbying for AT&T
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:06 PM
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10. Know Your DLC, kick...
:dem:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:20 PM
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12. He's a charmer.
K&R
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:50 PM
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15. So is his charming wife, Nancy Jacobson
Know Your DLC: Nancy Jacobson (Source Watch profile)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Nancy_Jacobson
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:13 AM
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16. Didn't know that one.
Thanks for these threads. :thumbsup:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:30 AM
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17. Those of us who expected a Clinton-Bayh ticket if she became the nominee saw it long ago.
These DLC threads need more eyeballs.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:30 PM
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13. K & R
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:28 PM
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14. Know Your DLC-kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:49 PM
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19. KYDLC-kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:20 PM
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20. Remember, MARK PENN IS STILL CONDUCTING "POLLS" for HRC.
And also "ADVISING" HER.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:30 PM
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21. flpoljunkie reposted thread "Huffpo: Bill Clinton's Ties to Colombia Trade Deal
Stronger Than Even Penn's" (started 4-8-2008)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5427854

Know your DLC-kick.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:34 PM
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22. Know your candidate's ties to PNAC and other neocon/neoliberal think tanks.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:45 PM
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23. Thanks, Swamp Rat. Know Your DLC kick.
:patriot:

:dem:
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