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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:10 PM
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Obama is way more electable!
Here is why, he realizes that Gore won. Twice in a row, democracy has been bypassed by traitors to our nation. Plain and simple, we are being led by enemies of democracy. They bypassed democracy and took away our fairly elected leadership. The torturing, lying, thieving @%%@$@#'s are not going to sit there and let us win fair and square. Unless a candidate knows this is going to happen, he is walking into a gunfight with a tennis racket.

Kerry's campaign winked at us and said, "Don't worry, we have scads of lawyers waiting. There's no way the election could be stolen."

They considered those of us paying attention to be alarmists. They wanted us to relax and go away, but still vote for them. We watched it happen again as Kerry gave in. He folded fast. Edwards was ready to fight, and was clearly upset at the decision. The teams of lawyers never materialized. I really liked Kerry a lot, but he told us he was ready to fight and he did not.

Unless the candidate knows that the election is already stolen. It will be. Unless the candidate is ready to fight, and fight hard for their country, then democracy is at it's end, and McSame will help lead us to that end.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:12 PM
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1. Hillary doesn't seem to realize that she can't win if she wins the nomination
by being seen as overturning the will of the people. Her negatives are already high, they will probably go up at least another 10 poits and no one with that high of an unapproval rating is going to win.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:21 PM
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2. To:The girl with the dog
What would you know about what Hillary can and Can't do? You have a problem even using spell check.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:39 PM
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5. OMG I MISSED THE N IN POINT, OMGGGGG
Anyone with a brain knows she wouldn't be able to win; Obama supporters wouldn't support her. The only reason many say they would in polls now is because they know she won't be the nominee.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:23 PM
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3. Well neither D is a shoe-in.
As far as electability goes, winning super-red states with an unrepresentative caucus turn-out while losing big swing states is not exactly encouraging.

HC, the media and the R.s have been tip-toing compared to what will come in September and October. If they can make Kerry look like a coward and a traitor while he was running against one, then they will make Obama look like bin Laden. And a lot fewer voters find McC as objectionable as Bush. So the focus on negative ratings is misplaced. HC's are as high as they will get since the RW media and the MSM have been unfairly attacking her since Bill ran for governor. O's can only go up. The reality we have to face is that McC can beat either of our remaining candidates and, in my view anyway, he will certainly beat Obama.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:32 PM
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4. HC pretty much told us '04 was stolen at a Sherrod Brown fundraiser in 2006.
She railed on SoS Blackwell and how as the referee he was wearing one team's uniform. (They eat up that sports-metaphore crap in Cleveland.) I think she knows damn well what can happen. And she will fight hard. Frankly, she has been holding back on the real below the belt criticisms for fear of being seen as the kind of candidate most people around here already think she is.

The day before the GE in '04 I received a mass-mailing from an anonymous group showing a photo of Kerry and Jane Fonda together accusing him of being a traitor. I have no doubt that if nominated I will get similar things about O. saying he hates white people, women, gays, small towns, gun-owners (I got one of those regarding Kerry), has serious Muslim connections and is more of a foreigner than an American. Meanwhile, the legitimate R. campaign will be hammering him on taxes, his absolute lack of national security credentials and his thin resume generally. Having never faced a serious electoral challenge before, I doubt he can deal with that kind of shit.
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