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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:34 PM
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Dem Candidates fail to Confront Bush on: Torture, Lies, Corruption, Economy, Wrecking Constitution!
I don't understand why Obama and Clinton are in this thing over "tit for tat" about mispeaks, statements made when tired and stressed and ALLOW THE MSM to Push them in Boxes...like they did with Kerry and Gore.

Why are they afraid to talk about Media Consolidation? Why doesn't Hillary talk about the MISTAKE Bill made in Media Consolidation?

Why Doesn't Obama go after the mistakes that Bill/Hillary made in Media Consolidation given that they were victims of it and how much it hurt the Democratic Party. I'd like Obama to go for how Democrats have been trashed by being "bi-partisan" and allowing the Repugs to RUN THEM and TRASH THEM over and over and over.

What's lost to me in this Primary is that both Obama and Hillary aren't talking about what they would CORRECT that our Dem Reps did that caved to the Repug Mis-Agenda.

Until a candidate will talk about that...expose the evil (and not why voters in PA cling to God and Guns and Repug Economy) we will still be LOSING ELECTIONS. This one is already being set up for McCain because we Dems won't talk about REAL ISSUES and FRAME THEM in a way that American People can understand...like the Repugs do with Gods, American Safety from Islamists, Keep America Safe and give the Wall St. folks ALL THEY NEED to RAPE US and our ECONOMY once again.

This was THE YEAR for the DEM REVOLT. Obama did good in starting it until he got "off track" and Bill and Hillary have lost it along the way by cozying up to the Bushies to get the "second chance" the Chimpy Son did.

It's just so bad out there. WHY do OUR DEMS NOT LISTEN? When we helped them take back House & Senate...they STILL didn't LISTEN TO US!

:shrug: What can we do... I think McCain will pull it out with the DRE Machines and suppression of Voters like they have in the Past...and our Dems will cave once again and the excuses will be made in the McCorporate Media and we will be back to SQUARE ONE....like we were after the 2000 STOLEN ELECTION.

How could this be? After ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE BUILDING THE LIBERAL INTERNET/BLOGOSPHERE? How?

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:38 PM
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1. Obama kind of has his hands full right now with Annie Oakley. Honestly, I have
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 05:46 PM by K Gardner
the same frustrations, and I think my greatest disappointment is that he hasn't been able to spend this time attacking those things, speaking out like he did today, expound on closing guantanamo, etc. But the true fact is he has a rabid chihuaua nipping at his ankles and he's spending all this time and donor wealth on defending himself against Clinton b/s.

Link to Obama statements today: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5513032&mesg_id=5513032
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:46 PM
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2. Because everytime Obama tries to..
Hillary,RepubliCONs and the media keep the news cycle going on what words Obama says or didn't say and takes them out of context and keeps it going for weeks. He has to explain over and over and over what it meant and for the people who can't seem to get it they are either dumb,stupid or racist...
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:56 PM
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3. Obama discussed torture in the "compassion forum" but the media
won't discuss it. Politicians can yell all they want about the crazy shit going down. But, when the media REFUSES to cover it the public won't get the info we need.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:46 PM
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4. Why Won't our Dems Discuss Media Give Away...and Hillary needs to do it because
it was under Bill..that the "deed was done." :shrug:

But..Obama fails to speak out about how the SAME MEDIA that TWISTED AND LIED about GORE/KERRY is now GOING AFTER OBAMA?

He needs to speak out about this and go after HILLARY about what THEIR ADMINISTRATION DID...to give most of everything to Ruppert Murdoch in "Media Consolidation Bill" that Bill and many of our DEMS happily signed off to.. If it's BITTEN THEM IN THE ASS...then let's GET HILLARY OFF HER HIGH HORSE...to TALK ABOUT IT! And OBAMA should FIGHT BACK! ....If they don't we will get McCain...because American People are still like sheep...working hard with the master striking the whip on their backsides..and they will go into the pen and be "shorn" and come out "new sheep" because they are just used to that "Whip" of the MASTER. :-(
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:57 PM
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8. Obama has joined Kerry several times on legislation to counter media expansion.
I posted about it a few months ago.

And Obama made a statement yesterday about appointing an AG who would be directed to immediately review Bush's actions as president.

I thought you would have seen that thread. It should still be active.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:06 PM
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5. I wonder if the little replies this Post has gotten means we've "caved" on Principles?
Why are these questions not considered important by our Dems...or folks here on DU? Democratic Undergound/ Progressive Underground...........or just "DLC...Complacent Compliance? " :shrug:

It's surprising that so many DU'ers who have been here for so long...will NOT STAND UP for all we've been through since "Stolen Election 2000"..

It's as if we've been BRAIN WASHED into COMPLICITY? :shrug: WHY? and HOW?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:34 PM
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6. No answer...okay....let's go for 2000 Stolen...and live with consequences........
because "after all these years" NO ONE ...will SPEAK OUT...NO ONE..
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:42 PM
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7. Why the "silence?" n/t
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