Washington Post-ABC News poll: Majority View Clinton as Dishonest

[usregimechange]

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton talks to journalists in Washington. Her story of sniper fire in Bosnia appears to have intensified existing doubts about her honesty. (By Melina Mara -- The Washington Post)


PHILADELPHIA, April 15 -- Lost in the Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign's aggressive attacks on Barack Obama in recent days is a deep and enduring problem that threatens to undercut any inroads Clinton has made in her struggle to overtake him in the Democratic presidential race: She has lost trust among voters, a majority of whom now view her as dishonest.

Her advisers' efforts to deal with the problem -- by having her acknowledge her mistakes and crack self-deprecating jokes -- do not seem to have succeeded. Privately, the aides admit that the recent controversy over her claim to have ducked sniper fire on a trip to Bosnia probably made things worse.

Clinton is viewed as "honest and trustworthy" by just 39 percent of Americans, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, compared with 52 percent in May 2006. Nearly six in 10 said in the new poll that she is not honest and trustworthy. And now, compared with Obama, Clinton has a deep trust deficit among Democrats, trailing him by 23 points as the more honest, an area on which she once led both Obama and John Edwards.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/15/AR2008041502883.html?hpid=topnews


She would say anything to get elected.

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Devastating. Yet more proof that the Superdelegates will side with Obama. She is unelectable.

[livingmadness]

40. Absolutely

The poll results have to be devastating to the Clinton campaign. Their only hope, given that the PA polls have not shown any significant movement since 'bitter-gate' broke, is to make a case to the super-delegates to overturn the delegate numbers. And there is absolutely no way the super-delegates will overturn a delegate victory without evidence they can use to convince the electorate it is the right thing to do. Otherwise it would cause a massive rupture in the Democratic party. What evidence can they use? With poll results like these, the argument essentially can't be made. The end.

[anonymous171]

2. "She would say anything to get elected."

That needs to be Obama's PA message.

[usregimechange]

3. I agree, it would stick having the benefit of being true.

[anonymous171]

4. He needs a slightly negative message to run alonside Clinton's many smears.

Just a friendly reminder to the voters of PA.

[TLM]

34. Check this out....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc73eM0E3Fs&feature=user

[NJSecularist]

8. Adlai Stevenson had a very good quote to describe Nixon

Nixon is the kind of politician who would cut down a redwood tree, then mount the stump for a speech on conservation.

You could switch Nixon's name with Hillary and not miss a beat.

[usregimechange]

9. Has she not tried this as a part of the kitchen sink strategy?

[Stephanie]

27. Literally. Witness her recent support of Mountain Top Removal mining.

Where they blow the tops off Appalachian Mountains to get at the coal.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Lying about being shot at hurt her credibility? Go figure

I love shit like this:

"Privately, the aides admit that the recent controversy over her claim to have ducked sniper fire on a trip to Bosnia probably made things worse."

A probing bit of journalism there, WaPo. Do you publish sentences like that with a straight face?

[Stephanie]

26. Lying about her support of NAFTA, lying about her support for the Iraq War...

Concealing her finances, concealing the library donors, concealing her earmarks. The list is endless. She takes at least two sides on every issue. She wouldn't know honesty if it smacked her in the face.

[FrenchieCat]

6. Hillary's Bosnia was her "Dukakis in the tank" moment.......

It makes it hard to be Commander in Chief when you have perceived to have lied about something dealing with life and death.

[usregimechange]

7. It sounded good until the truth complicated things for her

[dkf]

16. Throw in her duck hunting and shot belting and she was simply over the top.

Its hard to view her as Presidential when people are laughing.

I feel bad for her because she does try hard...she just can't see how she looks.

Damn my sympathy gene is kicking in again.

[TLM]

35. I think these should henceforth be known as Hillary's TANKED pictures.

What's next.... a funnel guzzle???

Maybe a wet t-shirt contest?


John Stewart said it best.... "is she campaigning, or pledging?"

[StevieM]

10. Obama's (and the media's) hateful campaign of personal destruction and distortion has had an impact

The truth about Bosnia was exposed in a book that she wrote. And she really only botched the story the final time she told it, but they James Lee Witted her on the first two. Interestingly, there was never a need to inform the American people that Obama lied about the Kennedys airlift and lied about Selma.

It is Obama who will say or do anything to get elected. He is a terrible human being.

Steve

[Tarheel_Dem]

12. we have a mutual distaste for the media, but the rest of your post is..

just sound & fury, signifying nothing. Bitter much?

[anonymous171]

13. lol. Ever hear of the "kitchen sink"?

Of course not. Hillawy is always the victim.

[usregimechange]

14. "A terrible human being?" Gezz, most freeps wouldn't go that far

[Mooney]

15. "The truth about Bosnia was exposed in a book that she wrote."

Wait, so we can tell that Hillary's bullshit account of what happened in Bosnia is actually true because she said so in her book?

Never become a defense attorney.

[JeffR]

17. I don't know you, Steve, but from this and other posts of yours

I can only conclude you're either in some sort of vegetative state, or you're an utterly fatuous person. One or the other.

[Zhade]

19. She lied. The world has seen the proof. Your spin won't change it.

Please continue to repeat and apologize for her lies - you're doing your part to sink her failed campaign even faster, and I for one thank you for your rank dishonesty.

[PseudoIntellect]

21. "It is Obama who will say or do anything to get elected."

And this quality is ten times as prominent in Clinton. Hence why people talk about HRC doing that.

[Zachstar]

25. Terrible human being?

I will pretend to not be able to see right through that BS.

Anyway Clinton has already apologized for the story so I suggest you drop that crap. Like Bill, Yall bringing it up just reminds voters of the lie.

[melody]

28. Drop that crap! Yeah, that seems to be the rhetorical tactic of the Clintons

Give a lot of orders and then pout when people don't obey.

[Arrowhead2k1]

30. That's such BS. She botched the Bosnia story several times and it's all on tape.

There's a reason why freaking Sinbad initially called her out on it, and it's not because "he's a comedian you know". She had a chance to correct herself when confronted infront of reporters about Sinbad's differing account. But she arrogantly decided to stick to the distorted version and embellish it some more! After that, the actual tape surfaced and things got ugly. She showed poor judgment and she dug herself this hole ALL BY HERSELF. Her excuses of 'misspeaking', sleep deprivation, and memory lapse because she's "only human you know" were let's just say, less than believable to most people. She failed big time with the damage control as well. Is that what you call presidential?

So no, she and only she is the one at fault. Her 'misstatement' caused many people to seriously begin to question her credibility on a broad range of other issues also. This flap has indeed costed her dearly, and it's going to haunt her for whatever political career she may have left.

[ima_sinnic]

37. awwww, poor widdle Molehillary--she's really so, so honest--why can't you see that?

BWAHAHAHA!! :rofl:

suck it. what goes around, comes around. she's sucks as a candidate, she's disloyal to the Democratic Party, she's divisive and hypocritical, she's noncommittal on every issue, taking whatever side du jour she thinks will make her look good, she's a has-been and pathetically desperate.

Her campaigning for McCain has driven the last nails into her political coffin. You think any superdelegate is going to endorse that shit?

[SeattleGirl]

38. Sorry, but I really don't get what you're saying.

Except to say that it sounds like projection, fresh from Psych 101.

[my3boyz]

42. Oh and the media has been soooooooooooo nice to Obama

They played that Wright shit for two weeks straight. Then turned around and gave bittergate 5 days. They will probably be playing it again tomorrow. Oh poor Hillary...NOT! She is a BITTER human being.

[Tarheel_Dem]

11. I think most Americans want a total departure from the last 7 years....

and Hillary just epitomizes what we've all come to despise about the current administration. They lied, and people died. Obama, in the minds of many, is a fresh start, and that's what this country needs.

[SeattleGirl]

39. Amen, Tarheel!

I'm sick of "politics as usual".

I'm ready for something new, and I believe Obama is the person to help bring us to that place.

[Zhade]

18. Well, yeah, we tend to view proven liars as dishonest.

NT!

[Zachstar]

29. O RLY?!

[McCamy Taylor]

20. Proof that Obama runs a very effective campaign

[quantass]

22. It will be studied in schools for years!

[Hippo_Tron]

41. Yup, and we're gonna need that to beat McGramps in November

[datopbanana]

23. Washington Post-ABC News poll: Minority Gullible as F*ck

[Zachstar]

24. This is the biggest thing the Supers are looking at in my view.

After 8 years of bush we HAVE to put a candidate people can trust.


I expect a good deal of supers to go to Obama in may at this rate.

[kevinmc]

31. Geez and I thought it was only me that thought that way .... 8-) n/t

[Zachstar]

32. Remember everyone! While this is good news it is not an invitation to be lazy!!

PLEASE continue to PHONEBANK!! If not in PA then in the upcoming states!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/

[samsingh]

33. i'm doubting her and i was a huge fan

[gateley]

36. Wow - that's quite a dive in percentage points.

Wow.

[SanchoPanza]

43. This should have been instructive to her campaign

Senator Clinton always had high negatives, which is why, for her first foray into elective office, she picked the safest state for her. Penn & Co should have anticipated that much of the Democratic rank and file would glom on to another candidate as, essentially, the Anti-Clinton (or Anti-Establishment) candidate, and spent much of their resources prior to Super Tuesday countering this sentiment by promoting her qualifications and character. This way they had a chance of ridding themselves of the percieved negatives and would have had a much stronger hand after the first few contests. Instead they went with the "Inevitability" argument, and essentially bought their own bullshit. Nothing is ever inevitable in politics, and they should have known that.

Their troubles were increased exponentially when the eventual rival turned out to be such an effective counter-puncher. In a way, the "Kitchen Sink" strategy makes sense. Obama, being something of an unknown quantity, could have been vulnerable to any number of mischaracterizations thrown his way. Sadly, for her prospects as the nominee, his strength has been deflecting the kind of political caracatures that have been the stock and trade of primary politics since this country was founded. Such a candidate is strengthened when you attack them, which, by all accounts, is what we've been seeing since February.

[slinkerwink]

44. and that's why she can't be President

[Perry Logan]

45. It's the MEDIA, stupid! Read "The Press vs. Hillary Clinton,"

You cannot hear that much hatred directed against one person and not be affected. It's simple neurology:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/157

[Skidmore]

46. Yeah, yeah, we know... Hillary is never responsible for anything she does or says...

it's always someone else's fault.

[Perry Logan]

47. Quite the contrary. The Obama people have assured me Hillary is responsible for the Fall of Man.

[Eurobabe]

48. No shit Sherlock. nm

[DemGa]

49. It's been a nasty smear campaign from Team Obama since this began

easy to prove -- and as low as it gets. Disgusting -- many Dems won't forget.

[usregimechange]

50. She has worked hard for this...

[BumRushDaShow]

51. K&R

The media is like a windsock. Shifting from trashing Obama for days to trashing Clinton for fractions of a second.