Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Obama is a liar. Ya you heard me a liar.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:15 AM
Original message
Obama is a liar. Ya you heard me a liar.
BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist
A Pinocchio problem? To fib . . . or is it a faulty memory?

• • To wit: Dem presidential contender Barack Obama's handlers may be telling the press Obama has NO "recollection" of a 2004 party at influence peddler Tony Rezko's Wilmette house, but a top Sneed source claims Obama not only gave Rezko's guest of honor, Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, a big welcome . . . but he made a few toasts!

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/896844,CST-NWS-SNEED16.article


He is just a liar. You can comment all you want about Rezko, oh, O did nothing wrong, he isn't accused of wrong doing, but you cannot deny he is a liar in the first degree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:17 AM
Response to Original message
1. Definitely not FIRST degree n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
186. that's all right, massdem. take this pot, put it over your head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:17 AM
Response to Original message
2. oh my effin . . .
bet it took you hours and hours to come up with that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
3. A "top source"?
Who might that be?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
4. yawn. another silly post from bitter you.
why not go back to bashing his relationship with his Kenyan grandmother, or whining about what a traitor Ted Kennedy is, and how mean his staffers are to you?

:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. oh pop tart, I thought I was on your ignore list. What got you to take me off. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. Amusement
and I want to see your wee head explode when Hill drops out. Fun, fun, fun.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #13
29. you're such a good person. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #13
102. Your gloating and glee -
should that happen - will do you no credit.

Nor your chosen candidate any favors.

I hope we can ALL be gleeful in November.

(Is it so very hard to imagine democrats of good will (just as intelligent and caring and insightful as you) reaching a different conclusion than yours about who would be the better nominee and the better president?)


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #102
180. The OP has done nothing
but post shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #13
176. Wow, Cali, I thought you were going to ratchet down the tone.
Now you are gloating, laughing, and hoping for someone's head to explode?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
5. So...
Hillary, when it comes to sniper fire in Bosnia, is just 'confused' or she 'forgot' but when it comes to Barack and a party, he's a liar.

Yeah, let me know how that works out for you. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:19 AM
Response to Original message
6. ROFL - Sniper Fire RUN!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #6
58. Incoming flower bouquets and little girls - RUN FOR YOUR LIVES !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #58
157. Oh no!
:spray: :rofl:

-ya owe me a keyboard, lady!

:D :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:19 AM
Response to Original message
7. I feel sorry for your bitterness.....
You heard me, you are bitter that Hillary is so toast!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. You can't defend your candidate can you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. I have no time for the likes on you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #11
19. I knew it. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #7
151. Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:21 AM
Response to Original message
10. If that is true then there will be more than one witness
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:22 AM
Response to Original message
12. Yup, he's a liar...
and a fraud, with no experience. Hopefully, "words" do not win him the White House.

Hillary for President!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #12
20. have a fork
Hills is just about done.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #12
31. Hillary, we landed in Bosnia, running for cover
there were little girls and Aliens, I got the machine gun, so I could defend those little girls, first I read a poem to them, and they gave me flowers, oh, sorry I forgot I was fighting Aliens, back to that story, the aliens, had been drinking Boilermaker's, so my influence to distract them was much brighter, I dodged the whirling of the helicopter, then grabbed the 50 children that were screaming, Hillary save yourself, but no I thought, how would that look on video, so I turned into an alien my self, and the battle was on, I had my light saber, the aliens were scared, and tried to make a deal, I agreed to continue saving the planet, if they would spread the word, that sniper fire is silent on video. Then Hillary ate all the aliens.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. come up with something, besides something Hillary, you know he is lying,
You will make any excuse for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #33
100. No need for excuses,. The man is the next president.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #31
98. You forgot the "Pack of Wild Bosnian dogs"!
Extremely vicious, will tear a person to shreds!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #98
104. She ate those, while she was making party hats
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #31
108. Obama - I sat in that church for 20 years, but, but,
I NEVER heard any derogatory sermons!!!!

Right!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #108
120. duck, incoming
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
14. Massively bitter Mass..yet again.. come on Massy get behind the Dem nominee.Obama..you can do it lol
This is the silly season of politics alright.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
15. WOWW! OBAMA WINT TO A PARTYY!!! THIS IS HUGH11!!!
:boring:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. NO, this is the huge part, don't let it pass you by.
Later Monday, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said: "As he has said previously, Senator Obama does not recall meeting Nadhmi Auchi at any time or on any occasion, and this includes any event that may have been held for Mr. Auchi. Senator and Mrs. Obama have no recollection of attending any such event."

But according to two sources familiar with the gathering, the Obamas attended the Wilmette reception, which came less than a month after Obama's Democratic primary win for his U.S. Senate seat. Rezko had been a key fund-raiser for Obama, who has since given to charity nearly $160,000 in Rezko-linked contributions.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/894559,CST-NWS-rezko15.article
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #17
28. No proof...no story... and besides...so the fuck what if they attended a party anyway
Is your McCarthyesque approach to life include assuming that if someone went to a party that they engaged in illegal behavior?

Give it a fucking rest. We could drag all the shit out on the Clintons since 2000 if ya want, pops.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #28
32. Why is he lying, he is lying you know it. answer that question. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #17
125. And how many parties did he attend that campaign season?
Three a week? Two? It's hard to imagine there were as few as one a week. Over, say, six months of campaigning, that would be 26 parties, minimum.

It's what politicians do. I can certainly believe that one of two dozen or more would not particularly stand out. So he met a billionaire at that one. Probably rubbed shoulders with a few dozen billionaires over those months - why would that one stand out?

BTW, Hillary landed in Bosnia ONCE. THAT would stand out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #15
79. Speaking of World Class Liars, look who shows up with a goofy all-caps remark
Good gawd
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
16. people who do not have their heads in the sand know that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #16
23. Rodeo thanks for supporting Obama with "glory days" The boss endorsed him today..glad to see you on
board!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #23
146. I do not support Obama but I will not throw Bruce under the bus.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:28 AM
Response to Original message
18. I hardly recall what I had for breakfast yesterday let alone who was at
a party I attended years ago. So much wasted bandwith with this crap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #18
24. It was two days after his US Senate win.
He made toasts and gave him a big welcome, and MO was there as well.

I wish someone would ask her the question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
52. HRC couldn't remember Tuzla - and whether someone was shooting at Chelsea
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:29 AM
Response to Original message
21. His biggest lie is he will end the war in 2009.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #21
27. Wrong again. He has said ALL along that 1-2 combat brigades a month; 16 MONTHS!
If he inaugurated in 2009 it can't end in 2009. Hence 16 months; do the math.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. Bullshit. He's repeated it over and over in his stump speech.
And he knows he's lying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #30
46. You guys hear what you want to hear. So be it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #46
65. And you don't hear what you don't want to hear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #27
39. Obama lied about 'ending the war in 2009' according to Bill Richardson:
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 08:41 AM by MethuenProgressive
According to Bill Richardson's website:
http://action.richardsonforpresident.com/page/content/2013/obamarecord/
OBAMA RECORD
Refuses to Pledge to Get Our Troops Out by 2013, the End Of His First Term
RUSSERT: "Will you pledge that by January 2013, the end of your first term, more than five years from now, there will be no U.S. troops in Iraq?"

OBAMA: "I think it's hard to project four years from now, and I think it would be irresponsible. We don't know what contingency will be out there.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #39
70. You left out the rest of Obama's quote, nice try
And since this is an area that Right Wing plant Tim Russert has been pushing to damage BOTH Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, I'll provide the link that contains the rest of Obama's quote, as well as what Hillary said in regards to contingencies.

Media Matters-On Morning Joe, Tim Russert mischaracterized Democrats' Iraq positions, his own debate question
http://mediamatters.org/items/200804080008?f=s_search
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #21
82. Give him time, give him time. We aren't at 2009 yet. His mouth has not yet begun to fight. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:29 AM
Response to Original message
22. MICHAEL SNEED is not a reliable source
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:09 AM by not_too_L8
She is a smear journalist

try google and read up
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. so maybe this source is better for you:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/894559,CST-NWS-rezko15.article

Later Monday, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said: "As he has said previously, Senator Obama does not recall meeting Nadhmi Auchi at any time or on any occasion, and this includes any event that may have been held for Mr. Auchi. Senator and Mrs. Obama have no recollection of attending any such event."

But according to two sources familiar with the gathering, the Obamas attended the Wilmette reception, which came less than a month after Obama's Democratic primary win for his U.S. Senate seat. Rezko had been a key fund-raiser for Obama, who has since given to charity nearly $160,000 in Rezko-linked contributions.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #26
43. I DON'T SEE anything about the toast... but I did read this...
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 08:47 AM by not_too_L8
On Auchi... His lawyer, Alasdair Pepper, told the Sun-Times in February his client "has no recollection of meeting Senator Obama." Auchi is appealing his French conviction. His 15-month sentence is suspended as long as he commits no new crimes. He is not accused of wrongdoing involving Rezko.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #43
56. No one has a recollection, good this ought to be a great.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #56
81. It seems the only ones with recall are the ones who hate...
or can make money
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #22
77. sneed is a woman
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #77
94. OK then...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:31 AM
Response to Original message
25. he has changed his story more times than McCain changes his diaper
Obama his lied about numerous things. And then the press lets him reinvent his excuses: Canada, Bhutto, Bittergate, lobbyists. Obama has been caught in lies, but no one cares.


He could eat puppies from his lobbyist's mansion and no one would care.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:37 AM
Response to Original message
34. "I was conceived at a civil rights march in Selma, Alabama."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #34
35. I never heard controversial statements by rev while sitting in the pews,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #34
128. Hilariously, every single Google reference for that statement is MethuenProgressive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #34
148. Snopes rules on the Urban Legend Barack has crafted about Himself:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:39 AM
Response to Original message
36. One would know
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #36
37. Well atleast you admit he is a LIAR. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:40 AM
Response to Original message
38. You remember every toast you've ever made?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #38
40. I remember parties I go to and yes I remember if I made toasts. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #40
133. Do you remember details about every party you go to, and do you
go to one or two parties every week, as ALL politicians do during campainging (they're called 'fund raisers').

Funny thing about memory - you only remember the distinct and unusual, not the commonplace. One party of a couple dozen - no. Being shot at in Bosnia, yeah.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
41. well I'm sure this thread is going to change a lot of minds
after reading this, I'm voting for Hillary!!!


not really. Okay, so you say he lied. Others say Hillary lied.

Wouldn't this thread be a prime candidate for 'It stinks, let it sink?'

I'm just sayin'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #41
45. Oh, if O lies, let is sink good democrats, if Hillary "lies", nail her to the cross.
you O supporters got your head so far up your asses your gonna start seeing through your mouth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #45
55. HRC is a misrememberer! You heard me, a misrememberer !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #45
188. Oh come now. you're being ridiculous.
I'm just saying the lying accusations aren't convincing anyone either way. It's pointless. You're not going to change any minds.

So I'm an O supporter and I've got my head up my ass.

Well, that's REALLY gonna change my mind.

More flies with honey, sweetheart.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
42. blah blah blah OMG he went to a party!!!
You're fucking hilarious!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. Why is he lying about going to a party. Please answer me that. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #47
136. so he can PRETEND he didn't know his PAL rezko and was DEEPLY involved with him...
remember - it's only WORDS that matter, not ACTIONS, no matter how much those actions prove how much of a LYING CORRUPT bastard obama is...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:44 AM
Response to Original message
44. "I owe my entire existance to the Kennedys,"
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #44
152. Snopes investigates this BO lie:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
48. Keep spinning, it's not helping Hillary
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 08:46 AM by ProSense
*** Backlash? Two polls in major papers today will set the CW that the Clinton campaign will struggle with: that the attacks on Obama -- while softening up Obama -- have done as much, if not more, damage to Clinton. And that damage doesn't do anything to make the case she's somehow more electable than Obama. Per the Washington Post/ABC survey, Clinton’s unfavorability score is 54%, which is up 14 points since January; Obama’s, by comparison is 39%. Also, 58% say she’s not honest and not trustworthy. What’s more, Obama leads McCain by five points, while Clinton trails the Arizona senator by three. In addition, new LA Times/Bloomberg polls -- which show Obama ahead by five points in Indiana and 13 points in North Carolina, yet trailing Clinton by five in Pennsylvania -- has some similar findings. “Clinton also suffers from being seen as less admirable than Obama. Even in Pennsylvania, 47% of Democrats said he had more honesty and integrity, compared with 26% who thought that of Clinton.” This is the box Clinton's been in ever since Obama took the lead in this race: If she attacks, she raises her negatives almost as fast (if not faster) than she raises Obama's. These new poll numbers from the Post and Times indicate Clinton cannot be overly aggressive tonight and that could mean there's little chance of a knockout blow by her of him.

link

(emphasis added)

Face it, she is a liar and her tactics are http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5352419&mesg_id=5352419">despicable


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #48
50. The only spin is coming from ProSense, O lied, you know it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #50
61. Her unfavorability rating jumped 14 pts and only 26% of PA Dems say she has integrity.
Ignore reality and keep spinning, your prerogative.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #61
64. He is a liar. you know it. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #64
80. No matter how many times you say it, it's still desperation. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #80
105. You basically admit he is a liar, but that I am desperate. Good enough. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #105
117. Reading comprehension is fundamental. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #117
122. Common sense is essential. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #122
139. Yes, it's required to accept that Hillary's Bosnia story and Nafta claims were lies. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #139
164. smoking gun memo proves he lied:

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/03/smoking-gun-that-proves-obama-k.html

Claims his campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful about wanting to leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves he lied

Monday, March 3, 2008
The Smoking Gun That proves Obama Lied in NAFTA -gate


The Facts About Nafta-Gate

What the Obama camp said to Canada, and the voters.

By Brooks Jackson and Viveca Novak

Updated: 6:06 PM ET Mar 3, 2008

Summary
Clinton's spokesman says a newly surfaced memo proves that Obama's campaign issued false denials about sending a private message to Canadian officials to disregard his criticisms of NAFTA. The Obama camp says it's all a misunderstanding, and the Canadian embassy in Washington says it regrets the whole thing.

Is this "NAFTA-gate" as the Clinton campaign would like Ohio voters to believe when they vote in the March 4 primary? Or is it, as the Obama camp describes it, just a botched description by a low-level official in Canada's Chicago office of a meeting with a senior Obama adviser?

It's now clear that a Canadian news report that started this flap wasn't accurate. No evidence has surfaced to show that any Obama "staffer" telephoned the Canadian ambassador in Washington, and all concerned deny that any such conversation took place. But it is equally clear that Obama's senior economic adviser did visit Canada's consulate in Chicago on Feb. 8, and that NAFTA was one of the several topics discussed……..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #61
138. and she INCREASED her lead over obama from one percent to over almost TEN percent in Clark County
when they held their caucus "re-do" this past Saturday...

amazing how things are when they are done FAIRLY...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #48
112. This one has no spin. It directly links to your woman, Hillary -
Google "Individual H" and you'll see why your Rezko whine fails every time.

Hawkeye-X
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #48
162. Mrs Obama admits she's never been proud of America; Video disproves Sen.


Obama's later claim she was misquoted
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:46 AM
Response to Original message
49. You are hysterical. You heard me. Hysterical.
You are now on my Ignore list. You heard me. Ignore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #49
54. Good, if you don't want to hear, cause it hurts your wittle ears, that O lies, then it is your
perogative.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #54
89. Question: Does Hillary lie? How many lies did Hillary tell?
Was her Bosnia sniper fire and NAFTA opposition claims lies? You are projecting. You are trying to say: look lying is okay, Hillary does it and Obama does it. The latter makes you a person willing to distort to condone lying.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #49
145. Took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:46 AM
Response to Original message
51. oooooo, he went to a party.. Was there any sniper fire??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #51
57. Why lie?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #57
66. Exactly, sniper fire was disgusting to make up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #66
69. Obama can't recall meeting one of the richest people in the world. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #69
134. Hmm, I wasnt aware of this guy. I will look him up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:47 AM
Response to Original message
53. Your own source doesn't claim Obama is lying
yet you seem to be pretty sure you know the truth--how is that exactly? Crystal ball? Mind reader?

Lame as shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #53
60. The only thing lame is posters here trying to make excuses for his lying. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #60
73. who is sneed`s top source?
someone comes forth almost three months later after the story was published in her own paper...by the way i was there!

can you prove i was`t?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #60
87. Deny this: you're making shit up
that's not even in the article you're linking. You have an opinion, nothing more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:50 AM
Response to Original message
59. sneed is a little late on her "big story"
Auchi couldn't be reached Monday. His lawyer, Alasdair Pepper,----> told the Sun-Times in February his client "has no recollection of meeting Senator Obama."<------- Auchi is appealing his French conviction. His 15-month sentence is suspended as long as he commits no new crimes. He is not accused of wrongdoing involving Rezko.


notice this was from feb and it`s now april 16th... where has her "top source" been these last few months?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #59
63. are you purposefully trying to obsfucate, or do you really believe what you just wrote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #63
74. i will respond again-prove i was`t there
prove that sneeds "top source" was there
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:51 AM
Response to Original message
62. Did he lie about sniper fire at the party? eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #62
67. Do you ususally not recall meeting and toasting one of the richest people in the world?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #67
71. I'm not a politician nor do I attend very many parties.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 08:55 AM by votesomemore
Mixers are a way of life for them. Like going to the office. I sure don't remember every single day on the job.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #67
72. Don't know, not really in the position to meet alot of rich people.
But i do meet a lot of people in my business and I don't remember them all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #67
75. I worked as an LA for a Congressman in the 90's
I went to so many parties, it would make your head spin.

I actually met the CEO of Sun Microsystems and didn't even remember it except for a friend taking a picture of the two of us together.

Maybe it's different for people who live in their basements and never get out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:31 AM
Original message
The richest person I've ever met was a scrubby looking farmer dude.
He sold his land years ago, has several large businesses--has roads named after him in Richmond. He almost looked homeless.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:37 AM
Response to Original message
116. and you recalled it! wow. O must have a really bad memory, remember OBAMNESIA
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #116
124. I only recall the meeting for its irony. Must be pretty loud where you are at with sniper fire.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:52 AM by smiley_glad_hands
Proves my point. I don't meet alot of rich people. I'm sure Obama, as all politicians do (just ask $100 million dollar Hill), meets alot of rich people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #124
130. So Obama is an elitist then.?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #130
140. You are projecting now. eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #140
155. BHO_Lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #155
163. Seems like you would provide a link or source for that? eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:53 AM
Response to Original message
68. 58 % of Americans beleive HilLIARy is the Liar here.
Clinton’s unfavorability score is 54%, which is up 14 points since January; Obama’s, by comparison is 39%. Also, 58% say she’s not honest and not trustworthy. What’s more, Obama leads McCain by five points, while Clinton trails the Arizona senator by three. In addition, new LA Times/Bloomberg polls -- which show Obama ahead by five points in Indiana and 13 points in North Carolina, yet trailing Clinton by five in Pennsylvania -- has some similar findings. “Clinton also suffers from being seen as less admirable than Obama. Even in Pennsylvania, 47% of Democrats said he had more honesty and integrity, compared with 26% who thought that of Clinton.”
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #68
154. 58% of Americans believe in aliens and angels? your point is....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #154
160. No one is buying the push. That's the point. Desperation keeps pushing it, but it ain't moving.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:59 AM
Response to Original message
76. "I've been against this war from the beginning,"
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:00 AM by MethuenProgressive
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #76
84. "I pushed the Ethics Reform bill through the Senate,"
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:04 AM by MethuenProgressive
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:00 AM
Response to Original message
78. When DOESN'T Obama lie?
Hillary doesn't have foreign policy experience.

I do have foreign policy experience.

I haven't coveted the Presidency for years.

I'm anti-war even though I've voted to extend it five times.

I was a 'community organizer'.

I must have 'missed that sermon', even though the Rev is such a personal friend that I wrote a book about me and him.

Who's Rezko? He bought the land for my house? Oh that's right.

I'm not focused on the race aspect, as he's racebaiting Biden, Hillary and Bill real ugly.

I'm for a new kind of politics, not the old politics of personal destruction, as he smears Hillary with everything from his campaign slogan on down.


Obama IS a lie. One big phony concoction. Supported by telling lies almost constantly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
83. K&R
The Obama campaign is getting far too carried away with their mischaracterizations, their false finger-pointing, and in many cases outright lies. Pathetic
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
85. Hillary is a liar to the nth degree.
He did not do anything wrong. He has not mislead the public. And he is not slinging feces like your gutter dwelling joke of a candidate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #85
147. Claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bullshit
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #147
159. link? I really do appreciate it when someone responds with FACT... no matter which side you're on
Please provide a link. I'd like to take a read.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
86. "Hillary Clinton believed NAFTA was a 'boon' to our economy."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:05 AM
Response to Original message
88. "She said, you know, 'I voted for it, but I hoped it wouldn't pass.' That was a quote on live TV."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
90. Hillary "agrees with (McCain) in embracing the Bush policy of not talking to leaders we don't like
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
91. "John wasn’t this raging populist four years ago" when he ran for president.
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
92. "I do provide universal health care."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:08 AM
Response to Original message
93. I'm sorry- I couldn't hear you with all of that SNIPER FIRE whizzing by...
duck and cover! :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #93
101. Great Googily Moogily!
So many have made the tard, er um, ignore list today...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:09 AM
Response to Original message
95. "passed a bill to stop a military requirement that wounded soldiers pay for meals and phone calls."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:09 AM
Response to Original message
96. He lies, dissembles and deceives plenty
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:10 AM by JoFerret
He is a politician. A deeply platitudinous politician. Not a prophet of purity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:10 AM
Response to Original message
97. "Hillary quote 'paid tribute' to Ronald Reagan's economic and foreign policy."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:11 AM
Response to Original message
99. Clinton would "force uninsured people to buy insurance, even if they can't afford it."
Lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:17 AM
Response to Original message
103. so let's see - trust an unnamed source
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:17 AM by merh
Or your eyes as you watch the video taped proof of hillary lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsmFDYyK4U&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/16/43431/1412


Remembering being at a party or even making a toast compared to sniper fire, nafta, etc. - seems your scales are out of balance

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #103
106. Obama "can't recall" meeting one of the richest men in the world. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #106
107. Hillary said that the sniper fire was so bad, the welcoming
ceremony had to be moved inside.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #107
115. the one incident is recollections about a historic trip to a war zone by a first lady
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 AM by bigtree
The other is recollections (lack of) about associations with influence peddlers and criminals, one of whom is currently on trial.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #115
131. Hillary supported nafta
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:55 AM by merh
oh and this is that historic trip and her lies properly compared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2tNmA_Ew-g&feature=related


As for Rezko and influence peddlers and criminals
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5527693



http://prorev.com/@14chung.jpg

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #131
166. chung trial is over and there was no improper connection or damaging inconsistencies revealed
And the Bosnia trip was, undeniably, historic and important.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #166
174. And Hillary lied about the sniper fire that never happened and
hillary was supportive of nafta before she was against it.

keep telling yourself that - have you ever looked at the press release about chung and riady and their guilty pleas
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2001/January/017crm.htm

and isn't that rezko in that photo with bill and hill, didn't she deny knowing him ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:28 AM
Response to Original message
109. I'm not reading any more of your posts unless you return to using all caps,
and that's all there is to it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #109
114. I was gonna put liar in all caps, but didn't want to rile up the O supporters.
So you can rest assured the thought was there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #114
187. I had no doubt the thought was there. It appears rather constant with
you, in fact.

Something akin to walking through a library with a hyena on your head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:29 AM
Response to Original message
110. Politicians lie? Water is wet? Well, I never...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:31 AM
Response to Original message
111. QUiCK!!! RUN!!! SNIPER FIRE!!!
...this is the best you got...

Pathetic...

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #111
132. Is this the best you have!!! Pathetic....
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:33 AM
Response to Original message
113. As Senator Clinton's national trustworthy statistics is headed for Bush territory 38%
it probably is not a good idea for you to bring up this theme for your candidate.

In any case such a thin point stretched to such an inflamatory headline earns an ignore
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
118. ah yes, someone sounds quite bitter... yes of course...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
119. Coming from a Clinton supporter...this is laughable.
Clinton is a liar. You heard me...a liar.
I wouldn't trust her if she said the sky was blue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #119
123. Would you trust Obama if he said the sky was green?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #123
141. No...but I never said that I trust Obama completely, either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #119
143. Claims father linked to Kennedys; Washington Post proves he lied
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #143
150. Snopes backs up WaPo calling BO a liar:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #150
153. of course Obama is a lier. Most fans are in denial
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:43 AM
Response to Original message
121. ouch, that is pretty brutal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:51 AM
Response to Original message
126. Whoa, a "top source claims" Obama glad-handled and forgot about it? SCANDAL!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #126
149. Claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:52 AM
Response to Original message
127. The list of what Obama 'didn't know' is long
he is either a liar or an idiot


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:53 AM
Response to Original message
129. Wow from 9:59-10:11-11 ignores posted. Did a memo go out?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:06 AM
Response to Original message
135. A LIAR and a HYPOCRIT and a PANDERER of the worst sort...
fuck obama - this country doesn't need or want this cretin now...

and he fucked his chances in the general by his CONTINUED and REPEATED comments that INSULT the common man...

aparently "faith" is OK when you're demonizing Gay Persons, but not OK for the "rural folk"...

what an ASSHOLE...

Just like those that continue to TRY to defend that ASSHOLE BIGOTED preacher...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #135
144. have you considered decaf
and a walk


your anger is just bizarre, all that you have written is incorrect so one has to wonder where you have been to absorb all the toxins :shrug:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:10 AM
Response to Original message
137. WHAT?!
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:15 AM by Symarip
Obama at a party?

Quick! To the Hill-A-Copter. We need to drop flyers all over the country to show them that this man is a hack when it comes to Hope and Change.

Don a flak jacket! I hear there's Bosnian rifle men waiting in the bushes next to the heliport.

(cue theme to Magnum PI)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #137
156. Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #156
169. LOL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:31 AM
Response to Original message
142. Claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:48 AM
Response to Original message
158. It's all they have. It would be sad if it weren't so gosh-darned funny!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #158
171. Claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry
pay-off and watered down the bill
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
161. Quite a listing of BO's lies - that his followers were unaware of. Will they wise up to him in time?
Or will their lack of knowledge lead to a McCAin Presidency?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:21 AM
Response to Original message
165. Testifying in the Rezko trial yesterday...

"Caught by the feds, they both pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in exchange for shorter sentences. Six years for Levine. Maybe two years for Cari.

"At 55, Joe Cari is a shadow of his former self. Once the political world was his oyster. His prodigious fund-raising talent helped Democratic presidential candidates raise big-time cash: Bill Clinton ..."

Source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/896649,CST-EDT-carol16.article
By a political columnist; not the gossip columnist, Sneed, whom you chose to highlight

So Rezko's Republican mentors have now been shown to have ties to both Pres GW Bush and Pres Bill Clinton.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
167. ...so? © dick cheney
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
168. Obama gets a free pass over and over again
When it took Obama the good part of two years to 'come clean' on specific questions from the Chicago Sun times regarding the details that continued to drip out about his dealings with Rezko, the paper gave him a pass, pretending like all those questions had been sufficiently answered.

There is nothing new or inspiring about Obama's 'Chicago Way' or the way he has snookered folks vis-a-vis George W. Bush, another golden frat boy with a big daddy.

There is also nothing new in the way the major newspapers in Chicago look the other way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
170. Obama's just another sly politician, that's what many fail to realize. (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:39 AM
Response to Original message
172. This is so sad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:40 AM
Response to Original message
173. "We have to clean up GDP. Its a cesspool."
MassDemm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
175. "LET IT SINK all this dem bashing has got to stop. nt" -- You on another thread.
So apparently "Dem bashing" just means "Hillary bashing" in your book, eh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
177. without commenting on your assertion, name me one politician who ISN'T a liar . . n/t
.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:28 PM
Response to Original message
178. Hmmm....Just a little bitter today, are we??
:nopity:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:41 PM
Response to Original message
179. The man is not what he seems -- his campaign of smear
is testament to that fact.

Lets' hope this gets the scrutiny Sen. Clinton would endure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:27 PM
Response to Original message
181. don't you know, when O 'misspeaks' there's nothing wrong with it. it's the 2nd commandment of O-ism.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #181
184. so true
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
182. This is not the type of harsh rhetoric and name calling that we need if we are...
going to unite the party for the general election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:35 PM
Response to Original message
183. Hmmm, haven't you posted on this subject before?
Is your memory faulty? Perhaps some Ginko Biloba would help

On the other hand why not help Hillary with her memory ask her about Norman Hsu, Columbian negotiators, Nafta, Cafta, Northern Ireland, war votes and, of course, Bosnia.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
185. You sound bitter. Just sayin'. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:34 PM
Response to Original message
189. Is that it? If so, Obama is an easy winner.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:45 PM
Response to Original message
190. St. Obama has never lied
St. Obama has also never flip flopped, cast an incorrect vote, and is 100% correct in his platform.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:35 PM
Response to Original message
191. .
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 03:39 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC