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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:38 AM
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John Kerry was a guy you'd like to have a beer with.






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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM
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1. Actually, I'd have liked the idea of having a white wine with Teresa.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:42 AM by calimary
Not a beer drinker. That whole "gee, I could go have a beer with him" thing just completely escapes me, I'm afraid. I'm not inclined to want to go have a beer with ANYBODY.

:shrug:

Now... a cup of hot tea, on the other hand...

:toast:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:45 AM
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3. I'll give you that one, I agree.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:48 AM
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4. ......
:spray: lol!!! Where did you get that picture? :rofl:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 AM
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5. It's a pretty good photoshop, I'll admit it's not mine.
Here's mine.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:52 AM
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6. Yeah, really! Love it! That would be worth a toast!
:toast:

Late-harvest riesling.

I just can't take the taste of beer. Always tasted like soapy water to me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:23 AM
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18. I wanted a red wine with Teresa. She's hot... and got my bi-vibes going like crazy.
She has such a natural sensuality about her.

Beer with John? ABSOLUTELY - and please pass that doob, too.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:43 AM
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2. I saw Kerry go in and "have a beer"... he took 3 sips, tiny sips, and left... lame.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:54 AM
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9. Unfortunately, that'd be about my speed, too. But I'd only get through one tiny sip.
You probably will think I'm weird but that would actually make me fonder of him.

Especially after this drunk-ass we've had to suffer through.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:58 AM
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10. I agree calimary, Bush is at best a dry drunk. He can't take responsibility for his actions.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:01 AM
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12. MAN that's a cool photo. And yes, bush is a dry-drunk - from everything I've read
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 11:02 AM by calimary
and seen and studied.

You don't dry out effectively without having dealt with some serious issues in your life and your psyche. You don't JUST go cold turkey and leave it at that. There HAS to be some backup, some work done, some self-analysis, SOMETHING.

And he didn't do it. Clung to his "religion". Maybe he was bitter (or in his case - bitters).
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:04 AM
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13. Maybe It Wasn't Particularly Good Beer
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:22 AM
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17. So what are you measuring by his beer drinking? That's just dumb.
He's one of the best senators we have out there. Stop trashing him. Trust me, it makes you look stupid. :eyes:
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:28 AM
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20. it was pandering and dumb, it came off lame and out of touch, and I dont have to trust you at all.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 11:29 AM by Texas Hill Country
and I have talked to him quite a few times... he is not that exciting of a guy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:38 AM
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22. BULLSHIT - Those who actually spent time with Kerry say YOUR assessment isn't trusted
When Walter Shapiro spent a year on the road with the candidates in 2003, he concluded that out of all them, Kerry WAS the one you'd want to have a beer with BECAUSE he is so genuine and has amazing TRUE stories.

YOU may not find it exciting that thanks to Kerry this nation isn't in its second decade of full on fascism, but those of us who understand our nations actual record of governance find it very necessary and are happy to have at least ONE Democrat courageous enough to take ON the powerful elite and expose them instead of PANDERING to the powerful elite and covering up for them, which is what COWARDS do when they gain office.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:38 PM
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28. If he was going many places, that would be wise
especially in the no tolerance no mistake environment he was in.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:52 AM
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7. that whole 'person you would want to have a beer with' thing is lame and a media creation
Tweety used to harp on it all the time. Bush being somebody the average guy would like to have a beer with except that Bush can't drink alcohol so he would have had to have a non-alcoholic beer with him.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:54 AM
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8. The whole "have a beer with" question
is one of the more odious remnants of the 2004 campaign. There is almost no metric that is less relevant to judging a political candidate's fitness for office than whether or not someone would like to have a beer with them.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:58 AM
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11. Completely! I've said before - I can think of hundreds of people I know who'd
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 11:07 AM by calimary
fit the description of "...gee, I could go have a beer with him/her." But for Pete's sake, that HARDLY qualifies someone to be President of the United States. If that's the case, then any of Homer Simpson's bar buddies would qualify. I've just never been able to understand the appeal of beer, especially the taste. OY! But then again, whaddo I know?

:puke:

See America drink. Drink America, drink. Fabulous.

:sarcasm:

MAN have we been dumbed down.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:18 AM
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15. Give it a few more years.
I predict "who would you rather have a beer with" will seem like a downright probing question when stacked up against the criteria that will emerge in the next 10-20 years. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2024 campaign for Jenna Bush posed such thought-provoking hypotheticals as "who would you rather have as a Costco greeter" or "who would you rather see as a contestant on American Gladiators".
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:29 PM
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24. Ahh... ye olde Downward Spiral.
Sad to say, I wouldn't be surprised, either. But I WOULD be pissed. 'Cause that's certainly what we'd need in the White House, another out-of-control bush frat crawler. Only in her case, I'd think it'd be "could you go have a beer with her, or a shot-and-a-beer, or a highball, or a Cosmo, or a bottle of Jack Daniels or some such." I'm sure she has an entire wardrobe of liquid accessories.

:eyes:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:19 AM
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16. I just cannot imagine thinking of...
...FDR, HST or JFK as someone I would like to have a beer with.

Such a dumb standard to equate being a great leader with being a beer drinking bud.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:27 AM
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19. I know. It's completely stupid.
And if I have a beer with a presidential candidate, what if they get too drunk? Do I have to drive them home, hold their hair back when they vomit, and make sure they fall asleep on their side?
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:17 AM
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14. Kerry looks just as bad in that photo as she does. Uncomfortable, insincere.
Clinton looked doofy doing that shot and Obama sounded like an idiot babbling on about having a beer at his Booze-op in Latrobe.

He sipped a Yuengling beer, but his local knowledge fell short when he confessed he didn't know much about the regional brew widely consumed in Pennsylvania.


"You know I got a beer down there," Obama said to a male patron. "What do they call it? A Yuengling?"

"Yuengling," the man confirmed. "Like you didn't know."

"Trying a Pennsylvania beer, that's what I'm talking about," said Obama, his sleeves rolled up, smiling. "Is it expensive, though? ... Wanna make sure it's not some designer beer or something."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/14/clinton-obama-engage-in-b_n_96533.html?view=print
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:34 PM
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26. He looks plenty comfortable to me
and he genuinely does drink beer. He's not chugging whiskey and beer - which I doubt is not normal for HRC
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:30 AM
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21. Obama's not!
Sayeth surrogate-idiot Bob Johnson:

http://www.charlotte.com/559/story/581394.html

"Johnson disputed the notion that Obama has built a broad coalition. Most of his support, he said, comes from African Americans and white liberals but not white, working-class Democrats.

"I don't think he has that common -- what I call `I-want-to-go-out-and-have-a-drink-with-you -- touch," Johnson said.

An Observer/WCNC Poll this month found Obama and Clinton splitting the votes of white North Carolinians who say they'll vote in the May 6 primary. Obama led 59 percent to 7 percent among African Americans.

Johnson said Obama is likely to win the nomination and has had the support of "the liberal media."

"They sort of dislike Hillary for her vote on the war. They don't want to see Bill and Hillary in power again," he said. "So Obama comes in and runs a smart campaign. But that's not the Second Coming, in my opinion, of John F. Kennedy, FDR or the world's greatest leaders."
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:42 AM
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23. I always thought that was the wrong question
Friggin' media.

The question should have been:

"If you were stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire, who would you trust to pull over and help you?"
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:31 PM
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25. I did, and he is.
He's also a great Senator who would have been an incredible President. That has nothing to do with the beer, though.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:35 PM
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27. Hell yes I'd like to have a beer with John Kerry.
Not in a dive bar necessarily but it would be great to have a relaxed conversation somewhere about what he went through in 04.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:39 PM
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29. I would love to have a beer with John Kerry.
I think he'd be a fascinating person to talk to.
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