Karen Heller: WIP's snickers at Clinton underscore gender gap

[Writer]

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/17799164.html

Oh, the guys were going at her. The other morning on sports radio, the station that calls grown women "girls," they were talking about Hillary Clinton.

Specifically, how she didn't turn them on and, graphically, how a certain body part flatlined in response.

She's a United States senator. She's the first viable female presidential candidate. And the boys are talking about whether she's hot.

As if they would find any 60-year-old woman hot.


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[leftofcool]

1. It's pathetic

It isn't going away. It is alive and well in the media and right here on DU

[Submariner]

2. As if they would find any 60-year-old woman hot: Speak for yourself please

[leftofcool]

4. As a 60 year old gal.....this is the last thing I wanted to see.

darn you!

[Frances]

3. The "boys" should keep their mouths shut about Hillary

Those sexist comments hurt Obama with Dems and, in the long run, help McCain.

I've said all along that Obama needs Hillary supporters and everyone who wants to see Obama in the White House should remember that.

Anyone on this board tempted to make freeper-like comments should direct them against McCain. He's the only opponent who really counts (assuming you want Obama to be President).

[Liberal Gramma]

5. That IS sexism

Many charges of sexism have been filed on this board, but this one sticks. And stinks. She's not running to be Playmate of the Month, she's running for President.

[Mooney]

7. That's not just sexism.

It's flagrant, blatant sexism of the most graphic sort. Anyone who can't see that has serious fucking problems.

[Texas Hill Country]

13. pretty bad.

[anonymous171]

6. Sports radio hosts saying ignorant things? I'm SHOCKED

:sarcasm: She's been the butt of these kinds of jokes since 1992.

[bunnies]

8. Some Hillary supporters call her a "girl"

Look around DU. Is calling grown women "girls" sexist or not?

[babylonsister]

9. That's because 'she's their gal'. nt

[Writer]

10. Is that all they said: "girl?" n/t

[bunnies]

23. The rest of it really doesnt need to be questioned... now does it.

I'm trying to nail down the disputable part. Is it sexist or not?

[Writer]

29. Judging Hillary Clinton not on policy or even campaigning style...

but by whether or not she gives them an erection?

Why quibble over a flat tire when the car doesn't have an engine?

[bunnies]

34. Obviously these guys are total assholes.

And this is sexism at its most disgusting. Many of the claims of sexism I have not agreed with. This however, is not only sexist... but just plain rude and disrespectful.

IMHO, they should be fired. But only AFTER a public apology.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

33. Bill Clinton called her a "girl," too.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/bill-clinton-i.html

[bunnies]

40. I guess its one of those things thats only sexist 'sometimes'

Whatever that means.

Take the word "boy". Sometimes sexist, sometimes racist, sometimes demeaning, sometimes fine!

Its amazing that people can even have a conversation. :crazy:

[cliffordu]

11. I'm sittin' this one out.

:popcorn:

[AllentownJake]

12. This is a show

That recruits strippers for a month to be wingettes on air prior to its wing bowl.

They aren't really known as a bastion of liberal thought.

[Writer]

15. Why would politicians even bother to do an interview with them, then? n/t

[AllentownJake]

17. Key demo

White Males 30-60 driving to work.

Politians don't care. They'd go and have gone on Howard Stern if they thought it would move them up a few points in the polls.

[Writer]

18. I guess this show is a locker room that Clinton couldn't enter, then.

Obama has done the show twice.

[AllentownJake]

19. She's done the show in the Afternoon ride home

With Eskin who asks every female caller what they are cooking their man for dinner.

Eskin hates Obama...so its fair believe it or not.

[Writer]

24. No, it's not fair.

Clinton's been marginalized for something she can't do anything about - her gender.

[AllentownJake]

25. Its a sports radio show

Its not like Brian Williams is making the comments on the nightly news.

I swear everyone gets all worked up over nothing. Obama supporters as well.

[Writer]

26. It disgusts me that you excuse this as simply "boys being boys."

Tell you what: the next time the women of The View decide to talk about whether Barack Obama is "packing," or what a fine looking man he is, let me know.

[AllentownJake]

27. What are you yelling at me for

If your so offended about the radio shows in Philadelphia tell them. Don't just sit here crying about it.

[Writer]

28. "Don't just sit here crying about it."

Oh, don't worry, my big, tough man. I'll find a way to manage.

[AllentownJake]

32. You don't know me

or anything about me or the causes I have supported. Just because I don't get outraged at what happens on stupid sports Radio Shows doesn't make me what your inferring. Howard Eskin verges on the line of race baiting in the afternoon and makes tons of questional comments all the time. He makes more sexist comments than these dolts but Hillary appears on his show with no questions asked because he likes her. I once listened to these idiots for about a month in March and than gave up on both of them. 950 here actually talks about sports when I drive to work.

[emilyg]

45. Sorry excuse.

[AllentownJake]

47. So do you condem

The other show that's just as bad that she went on or is it only this one?

[ampad]

20. Double standard?

Hillary sat on her ass while a politician called Obama a boy, she didn't say a word. I know the guy apologized for it but that was a prime opportunity for her to display some type of leadership. She also hasn't said a word about her supporter Bob Johnson who said that Obama is where he is because of his skin color. Why hasn't she come out and say she does not agree? She hasn't said a word yet and this guy is a top supporter of Hillary. His name was one of the names on the black mail letter that was sent to the DNC. I guess it is only an "issue" when it comes to Hillary and sexism, not surprising.

[AllentownJake]

21. Fishing

In the morning they love Obama in the afternoon they love Hillary. People are far too concerned over a sports radio show.

[Straight Shooter]

31. Obama sat on his ass while a McCain supporter called Hillary a bitch.

Honestly, it does no one any good to get involved in a pissing contest with a skunk.

Besides, you would have accused her of pandering. Half of Obama's supporters claim she's racist, which is the underlying theme of Obama's campaign against Hillary.

[ampad]

35. You don't a damn thing about me

So take your accusations of pandering elsewhere. I have never, ever, said that Clinton was racist so take that elsewhere as well. The OP wants to come on here and paint Obama as an apologist for sexism it wasn't me (an Obama supporter) who claiming otherwise. I see all you can come up with is Hillary being called a bitch. It seems that since Hillary is kissing the ass of McCain (her good friend says Bill Clinton) then McCain should of been the one to come out and denounced his supporter calling Hillary a bitch. I guess Hillary didn't care though considering McCain is her friend and all. Should Obama come out and ask McCain to apologize for calling Chelsea a dog? Or has Hillary forgiven her good friend with all the experience for insulting her only child? Please :eyes:

[AllentownJake]

37. If your Male

and you don't support Hillary your a sexist. Didn't you get the memo?

[ampad]

38. LOL, I didn't get that memo

I'm a female which is probably why I find their faux outrage and double standards amusing.

[Straight Shooter]

39. Wow.

Calm down. I didn't address you personally, I responded to the claims in your post.

Obama was probably paying no attention to the brouhaha over Chelsea, anyway. By the way, if you don't think Hillary being called a bitch and saying absolutely nothing about it, an outright slur, is no BFD, that's your issue to deal with. Obama is never going to defend any slur against Hillary, because it benefits him. He's as much on the side of Repubs as you claim Hillary is. Don't forget that his comm. director is Robert Gibbs, the one who morphed Dean into Osama. They don't care.

IOIYAR has become IOIYO.

[AllentownJake]

36. So..

Going on a show where the Host asks every women what they are making their man for dinner and if they aren't cooking for their man calls them a bad wife or girlfriend is somehow setting women's rights ahead?

[ampad]

42. Why did Hillary ever go on this show?

Sounds down right sexist to me. Funny the outrage didn't begin until after Obama decided to go on the show, funny how that works.

[AllentownJake]

43. He's an ok Sexist

Cause he's friends with her. If he was supporting Obama he'd be vile scum.

[ampad]

44. Ohh got it!

I didn't know there were designated, off limit, sexist. I should of known considering how many of her supporters defend or ignore bigotry and racism when they feel it will help her.

[cooolandrew]

14. In fairness to Hillary she looks fantastic for a mature lady, although yes not about appearance.

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[JoFerret]

16. There can be no denying that sexism

in its most foul forms is alive and well in the US. On this board and also - at times - in the Obama campaign.

It is still acceptable to be misogynist. There is no denying that. For more evidence check out both the admiration and the criticism of Michelle Obama as it unfolds. But that is as nothing compared to what Hillary continues to endure - often without any check.

NONE of us gain anything by this. None of us.

[futureliveshere]

22. THIS IS WRONG!! JUST WRONG!!

I am a firm Obama supporter and don't at all like HRC. But this is boorish behavior and should not be condoned.

[RaleighNCDUer]

30. It is unconscionable,

but what do you expect of the morons that inhabit sports radio? A bunch of middle-aged men stuck in adolescence. I mean, really, sports radio?

I'm reminded of that old comedy routine, about booking acrobats on radio. WTF?

[SoCalDem]

41. You expect intelligent grown up discussion on sports radio?

:rofl:

Grown up guys who get paid to sit around on their asses talking sports & trashing women..all women?..and that's their JOB?? Their brains stoppped growing somewhere about age 14..at least that's what it sounds like to this old lady :)

[ej510]

48. I don't care what she looks like but her actions suck.

The way she looks in clothes should not distort your view of her but her actions should. And her actions blow!

[Bucky]

46. I'm supporting Obama, but I find Clinton hot

It's that intelligence thing. Frankly, I think she's a closet cougar.