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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:32 PM
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What a crock - Lapel Pin Question to Obama & HILLARY ISN'T WEARING ONE!
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:34 PM by merh



They don't turn to her and ask her where her lapel pin is, they didn't ask her why she was being unpatriotic.

What a crock of ....

:argh:

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:32 PM
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1. Yep.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:33 PM
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2. I thought the same thing n/t
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:33 PM
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3. Thank you.
Where's hers?

Obama spends the first forty five minutes fighting off bogus charges, and then suddenly Hillary Clinton has all this time at the end. Nice, ain't it?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 PM
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6. They could have pretended to be fair and Hillary why she wasn't wearing
a flag lapel pin!

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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 PM
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4. I was wondering about that too.
Kind of a dead giveaway of the agenda, wasn't it?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 PM
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5. It seems odd that americans feel that they must identify themselves
as such by wearing a tag on their clothing.

I think everyone knows what country they are citizens of.

The whole thing is such a diversion from anything worth talking about.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:36 PM
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8. The issue is a diversion
But if you are going to harass the hell out of one candidate for not wearing one and fail to ask the other candidate who is not wearing one about the pin's absence then you are not being, ermmm MODERATE or fair.

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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:42 PM
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16. Who cares about a Made-In-China lapel pin?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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23. I was hoping Obama would say something about that
It sure would have out those two idiots (Charles and his sidekick) in place!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:36 PM
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7. she never does.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 PM
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13. Then she deserved to be asked the same question
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 PM by merh
bastards - tabloid "gotcha" yellow journalists

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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:37 PM
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9. I think everyone noticed that.
Just another reason the moderators will be the news tomorrow and not the candidates. Sorriest excuse for moderators I have ever seen (although I didn't watch the fox debates)
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:37 PM
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10. Good thing Edwards wasn't there
The question may have been...

"Who does your hair?"

:grr:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:38 PM
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11. Yeah, ABC really NAILED that question didn't they? I know **I'll** sleep better tonight.
Don't worry about Iraq or health care or gas and food prices.. because ABC NAILED Obama on the flag pin scandal!

Have I mentioned how much I hate these people?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 PM
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12. They shouldn't wear them
That flag pin crap is a republican thing. That's the only way they can show "patriotism". Wear a flag pin while screwing the country. Dems are better than that.Dem policies are far more important to Americans than a stupid repuke flag pin. Repukes can go to hell.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 PM
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14. But she had that stupid grin on her face...
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:44 PM
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18. Well gee whiz....
WTF was she supposed to do in an awkward situation? Cry? Oh wait.....that wouldn't satisfy you either. She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. I'll be so glad when this is all over and you people can stop wringing your hands and pissing and moaning about Hillary. Don't you people get a little tired of it? Geez...
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:41 PM
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15. Double fucking standard. . .
. . .its fucked up.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:43 PM
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17. This debate was complete and utter shit.
30 minutes of issues, 90 minutes of garbage.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:44 PM
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19. Yeah. I'm so glad ABC made sure that question was asked. I feel safer already.
:puke:
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:45 PM
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20. Question: were the moderators wearing lapel pins?
So are they patriotic? sarc
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:45 PM
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21. The Black man has to be put through the wringer........
and has to be twice as good before the Democratic "elders" will give the word that he's good enough to run against the White man. Pathetic.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:48 PM
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25. Damn......there you go with the race card again.
:grr:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:46 PM
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22. Obama is no fun to watch in the debates.
He could have stated the obvious so many times and he would not. I guess it works for him in the end but I can not watch it without screaming horrible things at the television. Very aggravating to be sure.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:36 PM
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36. edit..replied to wrong post
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:37 PM by stillcool47
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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24. I thought about that too.
What a lame-ass piece of national journalism that was.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:59 PM
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28. I hate what is before our nominee
after this sham - can you imagine what the General Election debates will be like, can you imagine the bias of the media?

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:09 PM
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29. Bring it on,
because we're kicking back hard against that kind of politics.

I really think we're on the verge of a sea change, if we keep going on this path.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:16 PM
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30. Have you read the blog at ABC
the majority of the posts are slamming abc, folks telling them how disappointed they are in the sham debates.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/comments?type=story&id=4666956

We have to let the media know that we won't take it any more, not this election, not this time.

I Believe! :patriot:

NGU :hug:

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:25 PM
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35. That's what I'M talkin' about.
People are wising up to the cheesy tabloid crap.


NGU! I believe that we're going to right this boat.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 PM
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26. My son asked me if Hillary wears one, I had to tell him I don't know or care, pins won't keep
soldiers heads from getting blown off with IEDs, this entire thing was a farce. The 'MSM' is doing its best to make what would have been a very good party building election season for the Democratic Party into a laughing stock. I think I just found out why this is happening and Hillary and Obama both need to decline any further ANYTHING with the 'MSM'. I hope it backfires and so many people come out to vote for us the Republicans heads will spin for generations.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:58 PM
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27. This thread is not about that stupid pin - most are made in
china and most politicians wear them as some signal that they are patriotic when they vote against our needs and the wants of the citizens.

The point is, they asked him about it and not her and she wasn't wearing a flag pin.

It's the double damned standards and the bogus wedge issues.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:16 PM
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31. Because girls don't have to wear lapel pins!!!!!
Why should she put that ugly thing on her purty jacket?? :eyes:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:17 PM
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32. At least the ABC moderators had their label pins on
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:17 PM by zulchzulu
...or maybe not...


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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:53 AM
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50. moderators don't have to be patriotic
that would show a bias and be against their ethics and ....

erm, never mind

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:18 PM
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33. merh, I hear you. This debate was b.s., but maybe ABC thought
there'd be no backlash. Why, I don't know.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:19 PM
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39. I hope they read their blogs
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:18 PM
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34. It just started here and I noticed something funny.
Hilary said she didn't believe that people clung to their traditions during times of hardship. LOL!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:17 PM
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38. you have to have traditions to cling to them
what are the clinton's traditions, gathering for campaign briefings?

she is such a phony, a grifter
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:19 AM
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44. Exactly. Like it should surprise anyone that people reach for what they know
when times get tough. :crazy:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:38 PM
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37. I wonder why ABC didn't bring this up?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:39 PM by stillcool47


ABC News
Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties
Clinton, Obama Spar on Ties to Radicals
By JUSTIN ROOD

Feb. 22, 2008—

The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001. (Obama's ties to the radical group first surfaced last week in a Bloomberg News article.)

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from Politico.com reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another former member of the radical group.

Opting to leave any attacks on the issue to the GOP may be wise, as attacks from Clinton could backfire. In his final day in office, President Clinton pardoned another one-time member of the Weather Underground, Susan L. Rosenberg, after she had served 16 years in prison on federal charges.

Rosenberg had been arrested in 1984 while unloading 740 pounds of dynamite, a submachine gun and other weapons from the back of a car.

Rosenberg admitted the materials were to supply others for politically-motivated attacks. Authorities had been searching for Rosenberg since 1981, for what they believed was her role in the robbery of a Brinks truck in Rockland County, N.Y. The attack, for which Rosenberg was thought to have aided with surveillance and getaway driving, left two police officers and a guard dead.

Rosenberg has denied playing a role in the Brinks heist. In arguing for a pardon in 2001, she noted that she had been a model prisoner.

And in 1999, President Clinton also pardoned 16 violent Puerto Rican nationalists responsible for more than 100 bombings of U.S. political and military installations, after they promised to renounce violence. The attacks reportedly killed six people and wounded dozens more. In justifying the pardons, President Clinton noted none of the men had been convicted of crimes that resulted in death or injuries.
Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4330128
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:35 PM
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40. Yes, I wonder also. Not really, and thanks for sharing, especially this:
And in 1999, President Clinton also pardoned 16 violent Puerto Rican nationalists responsible for more than 100 bombings of U.S. political and military installations, after they promised to renounce violence. The attacks reportedly killed six people and wounded dozens more. In justifying the pardons, President Clinton noted none of the men had been convicted of crimes that resulted in death or injuries.

FALN!~
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:14 AM
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41. they didn't bring it up because
it had nothing to do with a flag pin or a pastor and it would have been tough for hillary to answer.

charlie gibson george s.

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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:18 AM
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42. If the politicians were truly patriotic, they'd wear full-sized flags on their lapels.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:19 AM
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43. wearing the pin is not the issue
the issue is why the question was directed to Obama only and not to Hillary, who was not wearing a pin (and doesn't wear one either).

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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:46 AM
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48. I know, I was just taking the opportunity to tell a dumb joke.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:00 AM
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49. LOL
sorry, I was annoyed. :silly:

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:20 AM
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45. At his next press conference, he should come out literally wrapped in a flag....
... Sigh, I guess that kind of attitude is why I wouldn't make a good candidate - lolol.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:38 AM
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46. It would clash with her suit.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:41 AM
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47. Well, if anything, I hope the debate puts an end to your
never ending threads trying to prove that her Bosnia sniper tales were real. She admits, that even her scarey tales don't even coincide with what she wrote about the experience in her book.

Since they carried on about obama's flag pin position, they should have asked her, that would have been the fair thing to do if they had wanted to play fair.

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