Who really thinks Obama has a real chance of LOSING the nomination?

[Colobo]

I mean getting defeated in the next 5 states or so, or having his lead overturned by the superdelegates? If you really think there is a real chance of that happening, I want to meet you, because I've not met a single person who thinks that way in real life.

[ej510]

1. The democratic party has there nominee and it's Obama.

The race ended after Wisconsin.

[islandmkl]

2. pundits, pundits, and RW asses, plus some clintonistas who want the last 4 years...

of bill's presidency back so they get a do-over...

news flash: it ain't happenin', baby!

[cooolandrew]

3. Well it looks optimistic but that shouldn't make us complacent. It's struggle to the finish line.

work work. We have to use every ounce every idea every outlet till we reach the finish line no let up for a second. SOLDIER ON. FIRED UP.

[DesertFlower]

6. i agree. nt

[FrenchieCat]

4. He is going to the be next President.......

As long as we the people have anything to say about it.

[DemBones DemBones]

26. Not of the United States. Maybe he can be president of

the Kiwanis or something.

[KAZ]

5. It was over after WI. The rest has been brought to you by a station near you.

[papau]

7. It is only a small chance - he loses Ind and PA - scores poorly with white males under 40 - and it

will likely be a Hillary nomination despite all that has happen so far.

It is the job of the SD to prevent the nomination of a loser - the Mondale problem - and if Obama is seen as a likely loser (and without Hillary on ticket as VP he in my opinion has an excellent shot at losing), then the SD will kiss off their job if they pledge to him.

But it takes the white male rejection plus no must win blue state primary beyond his home state to get the ball rolling.

[earthlover]

10. And Hillary is not a loser? Pullllleeeeeaaaazzzzzzeeeee !

She has negatives over 50%! For crying out loud! she can't win.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

14. Who was the last Democrat to win the white male vote?

LBJ?

WTF are you talking about? :crazy:

[Leopolds Ghost]

47. Maryland, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington -- all must-win in the fall n/t

[mckeown1128]

53. Clintonista myth: "job of superdelegates to prevent a loser"..

BS. You Clinton supporters just repeat the same lies so much you all think they are true. The super delegate postion was created so that DNC officials and office holders would be forced to go to the convention... not to save democracy from it self.

[BlueIris]

8. I do.

[IndyHatedByBothSides]

9. You never know

It's extremely unlikely at this point, but nothing in this life is completely predictable except death, taxes and gutter politics from the Clintons. Obama could still self-destruct politically, or contract some life-threatening illness like Giuliani during Clinton's first senatorial run in NY. Or shocking evidence could emerge of an extra-marital affair between him and with Dick Cheney. So as remote as it seems, you never know.

[msallied]

11. He's not goin to lose the nom. The objective now is to make sure

he has enough fight left in him to take on McCain head to head after August. It's like finishing an Iron Man triathlon and jumping right into a heavyweight boxing match.

[Auntie Bush]

12. Obama supporters do!

They live in fear! Otherwise why would they be so anxious to start a campaign for her to drop out before the PA primary. Maybe they were afraid Hillary would beat him a few more times before the convention? That's why they spend so much time and money trying to win over super delegates...all th while they complain and criticize Hillary for the same thing. Hypocrites, one and all!

[Blondiegrrl]

17. Ever heard of that thing called the General Election?

Political analyists agree that the prolonged Democratic primary is hurting the Democrats for the General Election. All the while Hillary spends prolonging the inevitable (her defeat and Barack's nomination), John McCain is catching plenty of rest and preparing for the fall. I can't tell you how many Democrats I've spoken to in the past few weeks have told me they're sick of BOTH candidates and are planning to vote for John McCain in the GE.

[Auntie Bush]

20. "are planning to vote for John McCain in the GE."

I know plenty of people who feel like that. They also don't want a woman or black in office. That's not Hillary's fault!

Besides she's giving him lots of practice...which obviously he needs... defending off Rethug attacks...which he will run into like a brick wall.

He needs lots more practice defending Rev. Wright. Right?
Also...because of this long Dem primary Dems are getting all the media attention and smothering McCain right out of the news. We get to discuss our issues over and over again in the nightly news and in the debates. Can't deny that can you? Now how's that hurting our party?

[EFerrari]

27. Reading you post something like that is just sad. n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

29. You've got it! Obama has never won an election against real opposition.

IF he gets the nomination, McCain will beat him.

Hillary Clinton can beat McCain.

Obama is too inexperienced, should not have run this year.

[Auntie Bush]

31. It's sad isn't it?

If he had only waited till after Hillary won...and not divided the party...we could have had a woman and Dem president for the nest 8 years. Obama could have been VP and as an experienced politician...would have been guaranteed to win as the first black President and kept Dems in control for another 8 wonderful years. 16 years of control...by then Jim Webb would be ready to jump in.

But Noooooo, Obama was too impatient to wait and had to jump in now...divide our party and ruin our chances. Now we'll be LUCKY if we even win the election and the White House. We might not even get to pick the next 3-4 SCJs. :cry: To sum it all up...we could have had our first woman and black president and now we not get either. Instead we might get another 4-8 years of the bush* policy. I'm sick about the whole thing. :puke:

[TankLV]

38. I'm sick about it just as you posted, too...

what a shame...

snatching another defeat out of the jaws of victory...

If obama gets it - it will be another dukakis or mcgovern...

[MattBaggins]

55. Yeah how dare he

hasn't even learned to wipe his own ass yet and ruined everything for poor Hillary.

[Auntie Bush]

59. "Yeah how dare he"

"hasn't even learned to wipe his own ass yet and ruined everything for poor Hillary"

It's not that he dared...he had a right to dare! It's the fact that he stupidly, willingly, and willfully divided the party...probably forever...and ruined our chances of a woman and black president. If we lose this election...It will be Obama's need to be president now...couldn't be patient and wait till the opportunity was right...like 8 years from now.

He had to know ahead of time that it would divide our party and rob us of a sure Dem win. IMHO I think it was a selfish thing to do...he was thinking of himself and his movement...not out country, party and future.

That's my belief and you have a right to yours. You all certainly post a lot of your own beliefs so why can't Hillary supporters without being told where to go? Well, don't bother...I'm going out for the evening. :hi:

[Phillycat]

57. Great post. I feel the same.

[Tactical Progressive]

60. That is exactly how I've felt about this whole primary.

You should make this post a topic.

[Voltaire]

33. HILLARY CAN BEAT McCAIN????

She can't beat Obama!!! How, prey tell, is she going to beat McCain?

[MattBaggins]

52. that snot nosed little upstart

How dare he think he had any right to challenge the Queen of Peace.

[TankLV]

37. OUCH! ya noticed that too, huh?

[TexasLady]

13. I was proud of him tonight

and this debate so called, showed what a class act he really is.

[my3boyz]

18. I did not watch but from what I heard I'm proud of him for

standing there and taking that shit.

[CK_John]

15. I do. The SD's will bring another nominee into the convention to save

them from making a decision and change the math.

[AZBlue]

40. Not if they all want to be re-elected they won't.

The voters of the Dem Party will revolt like nothing that's ever been seen. And they know that.

[xchrom]

16. i can't stand obama -- but i do think he'll be the candidate. nt

[splat]

19. Once you start sliding, it's hard to stop it

[GoldieAZ49]

21. It is possible, the voters will send the message, and no poll can predict it

If he loses a significant percentage of support, if there is one more drama, then I think the SD will vote en masse for Hillary.

Time will tell, I think Obama knows; how much support he has lost and if there is another big surprise.

[stillcool]

22. Wishing and hoping and begging and praying..

planning and scheming.

whoops...

[GoldieAZ49]

23. Was that Idaho?

It was pre Wright and the elitist quote of those "bitter bible thumping, gun toting bigots in rural America"

[stillcool]

24. No. That was Texas.

are you bitter?

[GoldieAZ49]

30. THe Obama & Wrights are bitter

I am amused

:rofl:

[DemBones DemBones]

25. I do & I know many others who do. Howard Dean & Donna Brazile want to steal it for him but

I don't think that will work. If he does get the nomination, he will lose to McCain.

Hillary Clinton can beat McCain. Obama cannot. He didn't know how to answer questions tonight, he was flustered and stammering and rambling. He should not have started running for president so soon after becoming a senator. He should have held committee meetings on Afghanistan that he was supposed to chair. He should also have distanced himself from people like Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, and Bill Ayer years ago, and he shouldn't have used trickery to win elections. He's never faced real opposition in an election.

[Bensthename]

32. So, Obama has pretty much beat Clinton. But Clinton can beat McCain and Obama can't..

LMFAO.. That is some F'ed up logic..

[MattBaggins]

56. It's a puzzler

and a hooter

[EFerrari]

28. I don't think he could lose it now unless he tried pretty hard.

That's pretty exciting. :)

[Bensthename]

34. The only way for Obama to lose is for him to say " I quit, give it to Hillary".

Even then I think he would win..

[TacticalPeek]

35. If not, then why don't the koolaid kids go to the beach and chill until after the nomination?

That would be a win-win in my book, and by your analysis.

:)

[Leopolds Ghost]

50. I already have. Wake me when there's something to talk about n/t

[TankLV]

36. I do.

And I don't know if Hillary will be the nominee, either...

but I'd ALMOST be willing to bet that obama WON'T be the nominee, either...

I hope and PRAY he isn't...

[reflection]

39. Nah. It would be political suicide.

The Democratic Party's most loyal base, African-Americans, would not stand for it. They would stay home en masse. And I wouldn't blame them one bit.

[ShortnFiery]

42. Also this would dishearten "the youth vote" that Obama gets the lion's share ...

These bastards on MSNBC are sticking up for ABC saying that "they don't want to be parodied on SNL."

These assholes are VILE! :puke:

[reflection]

48. It's in the bag for O. No worries.

The only part I hate is that he has to waste his money fighting HRC instead of John McCain.

[Bucky]

41. Hillary Clinton really thinks Obama has a real chance of LOSING the nomination

If you run the cold probabilities, Slate's "Clinton death watch" index of a 90% probability of an Obama nomination seems about right. She could pull it off, but it'd be a hell of a thing.

[jzodda]

43. Its the media keeping this alive, nobody else

She won't win all the states coming up. She will lose in NC. Its now close in PA, so there goes her big win there. Shes behind in pledged, popular vote, and states won. Nobody thinks the Supers will override the will of the voters so its over in everybody's mind except the medias. They have every reason to minimize the above and not talk about it as much as possible. If they did people would stop watching till the general heats up around convention time. Ratings= money for them so they are going to keep the illusion of a close race alive as long as they can.

[ShortnFiery]

46. Yes, right now on MSNBC both the Republican and Democratic strategists are trashing Obama.

:thumbsdown: During the day, the most balanced Democratic Strategists periotically roatate to CNN but not on MSNBC.

[Texas Hill Country]

44. i believe there is a chance. Admittedly not huge, but there is a decent chance.

[Eurobabe]

45. Uh, Katz, that would be a resounding NO.

Obama all the way baby. :hi:

[ShortnFiery]

49. Logic would dictate that you are correct.

Yes, the odds are on our side but we shouldn't let up.

I watch this YouTube video to keep myself "fired up."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXR4JEbY1d8

[Eurobabe]

63. Oh believe me I know, Hillary is fully capable of

pulling an April 22 surprise. :eyes:

[Arkansas Granny]

51. Anything can happen. I wouldn't want to make any predictions at this point.

[depakid]

54. The convention could be deadlocked

I wouldn't bet the house on it- but it's a possibility.

[Phillycat]

58. I want to see what happens here in PA before I answer that.

[sueragingroz]

61. if he implodes, he'll lose the supers

at the end of the day... it's about november.

[smiley_glad_hands]

62. The only reason it has gone on this long is so the media can get paid. eom