Hillary Clinton wants to use Ayers against Obama, eh? Here's something the GOP will use on her:

[berni_mccoy]

Final Day Pardons involving Hillary Connections

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy#Edgar_and_Vonna_Jo_Gregory_pardons

Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges. Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public. Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.

Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.

Both of these cases are well document with references. If the GOP would try to use Ayers (and FAIL) against Obama, they certainly are going to use things like this against Hillary.

[Cha]

1. Yeah, she's not goin' to the

GE..hilary's not invited. People said no.

[patrice]

3. People know what they want better than she does.

:hi:

[Cha]

17. We The People have

spoken and it's Obama we want.

:hi:

[patrice]

20. I'm rather pleased with him myself, even though I didn't start out with him.

At least 50% of what happens after the GE is up to us; we MUST stay responsibly active and committed to our ISSUES.

Solidarity, zidzi.

:hi:

[Cha]

23. Solidarity indeed, patrice!

I know you didn't start out with him but I'm so glad you're here. I didn't exactly start out with Obama but somewhere between the very end of last year and the Iowa caucuses I was confirmed.

:hi:

[berni_mccoy]

33. Excellent point. And I like the example that Obama has been leading.

He truly represents a new kind of politics. We need to embrace that.

[Tellurian]

2. The Tide has turned tonight..

I hope Obama is looking forward to getting the Full Monty of a vetting from here on in..

Now you'll see what it's like to live in the eye of a media Tsunami, the way we have for the last 13 mos.

"Buckle UP, it's going to be a bumpy ride"...Bette Davis

[babylonsister]

4. The problem with that is his history is clean. How about FALN, out of NY?

16 people pardoned, palms greased, Hillary gets the nod. Think about it. Better yet, google it. You will be amazed!

[Tellurian]

6. Keep wishing...

[babylonsister]

8. Aren't you cute. If Clinton had 'it', ... well, she doesn't. nt

[Cha]

19. Gee..look what I'm missing

when the Ignore feature is going strong. They're just full of little gimicks and goo gaws but no substance. "The tide is turning"? Right..poster has no clue about the People tsunami riding over hilary carrying Obama to our white house.

Enough of the corporatewhore bullshit. NOT THIS TIME

[apocalypsehow]

10. Those seven days on DU after Sen. Obama is declared our nominee are going to be so sweet. n/t.

[madrchsod]

11. what does hillary say about bill pardoning terrorists?

[patrice]

21. Talk about elitist, you should try to give at least SOME people a little

credit for not being as vulnerable as you and your friends assume they are.

[Tellurian]

32. No, you're wrong. His history isn't clean. Subversion is not a desirable trait

for the next president of this country. Obama has questionable ties throughout the world to known subversives who HATE America. Wright is at the center of it all and Obama's major conduit to the rest of them. Wright and his connections are the primary reason Obama wouldn't disavow and disassociate himself from the Hate America pastor. Obama last chance to do so, was last night. He refused do it.

What is sad, I guarantee, Obama has kept the knowledge of these subversive associations secret and away from Kerry and Kennedy. (at least, I'm hoping they didn't know and supported him in spite of it) Obama is a huge embarrassment to his endorsers. I don't know how they are going to deal with it.

[parasim]

5. Indeed the tide has turned...

from here on in, the media has started to turn it's full attention on Obama, the obvious nominee... no worry though, he'll do just fine with the voters. The MSM has shown it's true colors tonight and I'm convinced that voters are finally seeing it for what it is...

[berni_mccoy]

7. Sounds like you are conceding that Obama is the presumptive nominee

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. I'll be so glad when my Hillbot Tool Begone is back.

:puke:

[berni_mccoy]

30. lol.

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. *cackle* and how many angels can dance on the head of $800K from Colombian trade interests?

[patrice]

22. At least you got that metaphor right; HC had it wrong,

"... how many angels are on the head of a pin . . ." That old saw has always been "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin".

[cali]

31. Obama continues getting SDs, 4 in the last two days

and hillary is still screwed.

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. I hate these high traffic nights on DU. I'm seeing people who have

been dead to me for months :puke: Personally, I think "Ignore" is the one function that should never be compromised, even in high traffic.

Thanks for posting berni.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. I was just thinking the same thing. nt

[berni_mccoy]

28. Hey Tarheel

I know exactly what you mean. And you are welcome.

:toast:

[RamboLiberal]

14. Weather Underground Clinton pardoned-2 cops, Brinks guard dead

An unusual combination of New York political and law enforcement leaders have condemned former President Bill Clinton's pardon of Susan L. Rosenberg, a one-time member of the Weather Underground terrorist group who was charged in the notorious 1981 Brink's robbery in Rockland County that left a guard and two police officers dead.

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a Republican, and United States Senator Charles E. Schumer, a Democrat, were among those who criticized the pardon, as did Bernard B. Kerik, New York City's police commissioner, and David Trois, a Rockland County police union official.

''It sickened me,'' Mr. Kerik said yesterday of the pardon, one of 140 granted Saturday, the final day of Mr. Clinton's tenure.

Ms. Rosenberg served 16 years in jail after she was found with a companion in New Jersey in 1984 unloading 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons, including a submachine gun, from a car. She admitted her role in the New Jersey case, in which she had planned to supply others with explosives for politically motivated bombings.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06EED7133CF931A15752C0A9679C8B63

[babylonsister]

16. Thanks for this. Kerik was sickened? And Schumer? nt

[RamboLiberal]

18. Kerik I could give a crap about - but Schumer

And the fact there are 2 dead cops, a guard, and this woman was caught taking 740 lbs of explosive from a trunk. Ok, she did her time, fine. Don't know that she deserved a pardon.

[Raine]

29. Thanks for posting that info...

I've been wondering who in the WU Clinton pardoned.

[panAmerican]

24. Search Results for "Weather Underground" +"Obama" vs "Weather Underground" +"Clinton"

Yahoo: 202,000 Obama; 1,270,000 Clinton

Google: 73,600 Obama; 226,000 Clinton

Ask: 16,100 Obama; 48,000 Clinton

MSN Live Search: 71,700; 159,000 Clinton

[berni_mccoy]

27. Good point. Interesting results.

[McCamy Taylor]

25. Obama used those against her tonight. He uses "GOP tactics" by your own definition.

But I did not see Hillary bring up Ayers. That was ABC doing it.

[berni_mccoy]

26. You've really gone off the deep end. Almost ignorable at this point.