BurtWorm
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:29 PM
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Poll question: Agree or Disagree: The election is Kerry's to lose |
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Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 03:30 PM by BurtWorm
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:32 PM
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1. Of course--he has to survey the political situation and devise a strategy |
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Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 03:32 PM by jpgray
One can argue he's in a deficit because of media bias and third party challenges, etc. but it is his responsibility to deal with and plan for these things. It does no good in my mind to blame Nader for running or the media for being biased--we know these things are out there, and we should be prepared to deal with them.
But that goes both ways--I'm not too anxious to blame a failed or a successful candidacy on any one thing. It's way too easy to graft your agenda onto your analysis of why a candidacy has failed, since there's no way to prove the main underlying cause of such a failure.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:32 PM
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2. As for the "circumstances" right now, |
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Yes, I'd say that it is.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:33 PM
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Because fraud will undoubtedly play a major role, and there's not all that much he can do about that, though I hope he's at the very least prepared...Kerry would/should easily win a FAIR election though...
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:35 PM
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5. I think you put it very well. |
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I think the ABB vote is growing each day, which obviously is to Kerry's benefit. But if the Bushists control the means of counting the votes, then the election is literally theirs to lose.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:34 PM
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4. nothing is Kerry's . he will have to work for it . |
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just like he did in his past elections.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:36 PM
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Thinking he's going to skate in is a good way to make people complacent and not vote.
I'm sure Bush backers think the same thing. It's self-delusion to think everyone likes your candidate.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:37 PM
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7. I disagree. It's like this... |
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I look at Shrub as the defending champion of let's say the Super Bowl or World Series. Even if that team doesn't have the horses or are smeared in controversary they still are the defending champions until someone proves they have the horses and power to beat them. This year, Shrub and Co. are like the LA Lakers. Big, bad, powerful, full of drama...But they won't be champions this year come Nov.
Kerry's the underdog, the little campaign that could...Shrub might huff and puff but Kerry's taking down the Big, Bad Wolf.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:42 PM
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8. He can't control the economy or Iraq. |
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Or the war on terrorism, etc.
If the conditions improve substantially on these fronts it will be much harder for him.
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Mon Jun-21-04 03:45 PM
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This election is still Bush*s to lose. He's the incumbent. He's got unlimited funding. He's got a reverant media. He's borrowed and spent huge amounts to create a phoney economic "boom". He's got a pliant and partisan Fed chairman doing his bidding. His party controls all branches of government and so surpresses any serious look at his many failures. The population buys into the "we are at war" mantra--which helps incumbents.
Events beyond Bush*s control like Iraq and job creation will help decide the issue. But, right now he's in the drivers seat.
That's not to say Kerry can't win. Given Bush*s history of flubs, he'll continue to give Kerry opportunities to win it.
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Mon Jun-21-04 04:13 PM
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10. Kerry will not be the one |
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controlling events in September and October. He won't be the one rigging the vote.
Look. The cabal in power got there through a coup. They know that. They will don anything, ANYTHING to stay in power. Kerry needs to campaign hard, to keep on pounding away at Bush's failures, to respond quickly to anything the administration throws his way, or any breaking news.
There are so many ways to steal this election that it makes the mind whirl.
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Mon Jun-21-04 04:54 PM
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The Repubs have everything in place to easily steal the election if it is anything less that the biggest landslide ever. We are going through the motions in the courts, to try to stop them, but the Federal courts are all packed against us if it goes high enough.
Even without the prospect of massive vote fraud, Kerry's campaign in serious trouble. He is barely even in the polls, and losing ground, and he has spent all but $27M of his money! He can't get much more, most who are able to have given the legal maximum already. Going forth into the South with an ad campaign was may have been daring, but it doesn't seem to have impressed many voters down there, not one of those states is turning blue. We will be outspent 2-1 or 3-1 from now until the election.
If Abu "Redemption" hasn't caused any defection among the Bushbot core, one has to assume that they actually approve of that sort of thing.:grr::scared::mad::puke:
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Mon Jun-21-04 04:31 PM
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11. Disagree (well, I don't agree) |
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Besides being too simplistic, it rather vaporous. What would it mean in practice?
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Mon Jun-21-04 05:07 PM
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13. It's always the incumbent's to lose (nt) |
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Mon Jun-21-04 05:11 PM
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14. Bush has the money and the moneyed interests, |
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the power of the incumency and the willingness to lie and cheat. Even as badly as things are going for him, it's still going to be a battle.
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Tue Jun-22-04 12:26 AM
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15. "John Kerry will win the election." |
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Concluded Zogby: " We are unlikely to see any big bumps for either candidate because opinion is so polarized and, I believe, frozen in place. There are still six months to go and anything can still happen. But as of today, this race is John Kerry's to lose." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38424
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Tue Jun-22-04 01:10 AM
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16. No -- the election could easily be decided by things beyond his control |
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Tue Jun-22-04 06:27 AM
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17. You mean like Bush starting another war? |
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Tue Jun-22-04 12:32 PM
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20. Iraq, the economy, Ralph Nadir -- all are beyond Kerry's control |
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Tue Jun-22-04 06:54 AM
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18. The election is *'s to steal! nt |
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Tue Jun-22-04 07:27 AM
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ITs definitely not Kerry's to lose. I think its a bit dangerous to start thinking that way this far out too.
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