Hillary really did use Hannitiy's Ayers guilt by association argument. Join me in vomitting...

[usregimechange]

Hillary, she really would say anything to get elected. Well, Hill, here is what I think about your behavior tonight and your new buddy Hannity.



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[anonymous171]

1. Yes she did. And he called her on it.

[BeyondGeography]

2. YEs...in other shocking news car bombs exploded across Iraq today

[usregimechange]

5. What the hell is going on? She really would say anything to get elected.

[SunsetDreams]

3. Yes she did...even though he was 8 years old

[barb162]

8. Even though who was 8 yrs old?

[BeyondGeography]

11. He was 8 years old when Ayers engaged in terrorism

[PBS Poll-435]

15. Terrorism?

That has to be over-dramatic...

[lapfog_1]

40. Ayers was a member of a group that one might call terrorist

but he was never convicted of any crimes.

I think that unless he is convicted of a "terrorist" act, not just rumored to have participated in bomb making (the bombs blowing up the bomb MAKERS), he should not be labeled a "terrorist" or even a criminal.

[BeyondGeography]

44. He was 8 years old when Ayers was actively involved with a group that engaged in terrorism

Whatever. In this country, that equals terrorism. And it shouldn't mean a damned thing to Obama's candidacy, especially when Hillary's husband pardoned members on the same group.

[barb162]

39. He still sounds like he's a terrorist and Obama hangs with him.

Obama should realize these simple little things...he's not ready for prime time.

[Justitia]

43. "hangs w/him"?? We don't know if they have ever even spoken to each other.

Your bullshit smears are disgusting.

[lapfog_1]

45. You realize that his association with Ayers was in the past

right?

So how is he going to "get ready" for prime time? That past association with someone that was a member of a group (but NOT convicted of any crime) when Barack was 8 will always be in Obama's past, much like many of Hillary's past associates.

You can't change the past.

So... what you are really saying is that he isn't now and NEVER will be qualified to higher elected office BECAUSE of this relationship that he had in his past (as slight as it was).

Hope you hold all candidates to that standard.

Let's start with Hillary, shall we?

[AX10]

4. So you are making a list?

Joe McCarthy did the same thing.

[usregimechange]

6. So did my first grade teacher... All lists are the same now, eh?

[WA98070]

7. And Obama was Presidential in his response.

[Justitia]

9. Yup, it's kinda like going to a party at your neighbors house 15 yrs ago & now you're his best bud.

Seriously, he want to some party for someone else at this dude's house 13 yrs ago - we don't even know if they talked to each other - and now they are suddenly co-conspirators in a secret plot to overthrow the gov't.

It's f'ing ridiculous.

[usregimechange]

13. And then a Dem uses it for political gain.

[Justitia]

18. Yup. I hope for damn sure there aren't any pedophiles at the company Christmas party! -eom

[usregimechange]

24. Well, I bet the Hillary camp is checking Obama's crowds for one

vomit

[FrenchieCat]

10. It was disgusting. And a couple are now on this board "Fretting".....

like faux "concerned" scared ass clowns. :scared:

[depakid]

12. Barely

and she's not the one who brought it up.

[Cha]

17. Too fucking bad she wasn't the one who brought

it up..she's such a liar,
whineyass poseur.

[Arrowhead2k1]

19. Barely my ass.

She was invoking 9/11 and the whole bit. She wanted in with that shit. Obama managed to shut her up well though when he brought up the FACT that Bill Clinton PARDONED two of those assholes. :rofl:

[depakid]

27. And so there you go

didn't serve her all too well, now did it?

[Arrowhead2k1]

29. No,

but her intent was there regardless.

[usregimechange]

21. Thanks for your minimization but, you hve to admit... this was way to Liebermanish for any of us

[depakid]

28. She couldn't resist that little swipe

(though I bet she wishes that she had).

[barb162]

14. Put me on your silly little Stalin list.

Birds of a feather....Rezko, Ayers, Wright (the MENTOR) flock together. Don't like it? tough.

[usregimechange]

16. Thanks, that took a lot of courage. BTW, Hannity pal, are endorsement lists Stalinist as well?

[usregimechange]

20. Or when your teacher put your name on a chalk board? Projection...

[barb162]

Are you stating I am a Hannity pal?

[usregimechange]

33. Hillary was tonight... and you are supporting her with that

[barb162]

36. Hillary is not a Hannity pal any more than Obama.

That's truly silly to suggest that.

[barb162]

37. Is Obama a Condi Rice pal because he supported her for Sec Of State?

Does that mean Obama is a neo-con supporter? ANd if you support Obama that means you're a Condi Rice supporter and pal and a neocon ?

[Zachstar]

46. I guess tough on Clinton's flip flops as well!

Like this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x119397

[loyalsister]

22. Moderators brought it up first

After he answered the question and seemed to have put it to rest,
she had to make sure he didn't get off so easy: but but but Sen. Obama served on a board with him even after he made those comments.

[Emit]

23. She used it as a spring board and had all the details ready as if she had been prepared a head of

time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlnoXZWRjgE

[usregimechange]

25. You have got to be kidding me?!!?!!!

[Justitia]

26. Oh, she was obviously reading from notes. I'm sure she & PageBoyGeorge had it all worked out. -eom

[Emit]

38. Someone sure as hell prepared her for this

She went immediately into the board thing with details that are all over Fox, Newsmax, et al.

One other point, and I'm not completely sure of this, but she said, "These people set bombs ... and in some instances people died..."

From the article I read from the NYTs on 9/11/2001, it said Ayers claimed he was involved in 12 bombings total, but it is hard to determine how much was truth and how much was exaggeration on Ayers' part. The article also mentions three deaths, those being women involved in the group when bombs they were making exploded. Hillary made it sound like this group killed people with their bombs that were set, but, the article does not confirm that (for the record, I am not advocating that this group's behavior was appropriate or any such shit as that -- just putting the facts out there for others to decipher):

~snip~

Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

~snip~

He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

[EFerrari]

30. Yep. It was like ballet. n/t

[Emit]

48. Exactly. And it appeared prepared and scripted.

I noticed the tone of her voice softened as she mentioned that the bombs 'killed people' (she neglected to mention that the bombs that went off killed three of the groups own members in their own home) and the tone was reminiscent of that fake quality she had when she teared up in New Hampshire and when she teared up about MLK.

[anonymous171]

31. I'm with you.

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[ElsewheresDaughter]

32. You O folks now crying fowl really believe they could protect Mr. Obama, .....

as his Democratic challengers did all last year, throughout the rest of this campaign? Asking a question about Rev. Wright? A question about William Ayers? The horror! Seriously, is Senator Obama so frail that he shouldn't be subjected to questioning that should have come a long time ago and will inevitably come in the general election? If nothing else and at the very least, everyone in the Democratic party should want to know how he's going to handle this stuff if he's our nominee. Because there can be no doubt that the wingnuts will lock and load Barack's greatest hits, then share them with the electorate in a cascade of negative gifts

[usregimechange]

35. That is one thing but Hillary borrowing Hannity's slime attacks is where the puke comes in

[Justitia]

42. So, can I ask about Hillary's alleged lesbian girlfriend? That's out there too, ya know. -eom

[FrenchieCat]

34. I puked too......

because that was some dumbshit.

It is part of the reason that folks are pissed....cause now, it's anything.

Think they are gonna bring up McCain's philandering and the Keating 5 and how he might be the Manchurian Candidate during the GE.....Cause I sure I'm going to bring it up, over and over again. Obama ain't gonna need no 527s by the time I'm through.

[melody]

41. She's not even trying to be elected now -- she's trying to help McCain

That's what this is all for.

[moondust]

47. Guilt by association.

This is the stuff of repressive regimes and scoundrels everywhere. It has no place in a U.S. election. Yet Hannity/Fox and others do this stuff while hiding behind U.S. flags and lapel pins on a daily basis. Somebody should be asking them what their hidden agenda is. Seriously.