anyone else here dislike hill's voice? ack. those less than dulcet sounds.

[cali]

she may have had intensive voice lessons to try and package her more attractively, but she still has one of the worst voices in the political arena. and that's more important than many people will acknowledge. it may be petty, but I find it difficult to hear what she's saying through that strident and grating voice. thankfully, she won't be the nominee, and she'll off the national stage soon enough. the thought of listening to her for years is not a pleasant one.

[DemVet]

1. And Obama....

...supporters talk about Wright, Rezko, and the "cling" statement being none issues. :eyes:

[Buzz Clik]

2. It's not her voice I dislike.

I used to like her. That was before she went Rovian. I cannot believe she pulls this shit on a fellow Dem.

Goodbye, Hillary. Was your career really worth this?

[cali]

4. I never liked either of them

there was always something about them that made me uneasy.

[chimpymustgo]

24. More stupid sexist bullshit. Mr. Uh, uh, uh...drives me up the wall. THAT's grating!

You guys are funny.

[cali]

29. there wasn't one sexist word in the OP, but hey I'll play

your stupid bullshit racism against Obama is typical hillbot behavior.

[Perry Logan]

3. Clintophobia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep.

[Zachstar]

5. Phobia eh? What about this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x119397


The "Clintophonbia" will sink her in the GE for good reason.

[Shae]

31. But-but-but ...

she says millions and millions and millions of words every day. They can't all be true, can they?

Then: "I think that everybody's in favor of free and fair trade, and I think NAFTA is proving its worth" --HRC
Now: "You know, I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning." --HRC

[cali]

6. nope. never liked either of them

certainly recognized his political skills and his intelligence- and hers, but never trusted or liked them.

[Raven]

7. I always feel like I'm being scolded when I listen to her...n/t

[lisa58]

19. That's where she gets me...

...it reminds me of the line from Cheers (if you're old enough to remember) when Sam suggests Norm has had enough to drink and Norm responds, "I have a mother,..."

[Skidmore]

8. My husband this morning vented while watching clips of Hillary

on the morning news. I had to laugh because he just out of the blue griped, "Can't that woman participate in any interaction without her head bobbing up and down? She's like one of those dolls you put on a car dashboard!"

I had to agree with him...I find her incessant nodding annoying. If she thinks it conveys sincerity and respect for what others are saying, I don't know. I can't find any meaningful way in which it is used. Maybe her nodding is a nervous tic.

[Oilwellian]

33. The nodding has a subliminal meaning

I took a class in public speaking as well as debate and both taught to nod your head when you want your audience to agree with you.

[shaniqua6392]

9. They both have speech issues that bother me.

But I would honestly have to say that Obama saying "ummmmm" and "ahhhh" every other word bothers me more. If he is reading a prompter he does not do this. But, when he speaks on his own he does it all the time. This is just one of my pet peeves. On the other hand, I would much rather listen to either of them than George Bush. Now there is a crappy speaker!!!

[Yossariant]

10. Barack's voice is DULCET?!

:rofl:

I like Clinton's voice.

[Perry Logan]

11. Even as we speak, there's a thread in GD:P--about inane threads like this in GD:P!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5544677

[cali]

13. lol. it clearly bothers you.

and this is far less inane than you wish. Why do you think your goddess had voice lessons like some ingenue trying out for that big role?

[Perry Logan]

21. Clintophobia bothers me. I think it's very unhealthy.

And I didn't even know the story about the voice lessons. It all shows how tuned in you are on the real issues.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. Ummm...

er... er... umm.... er... er... um... ummmm.... err... umm.... er....


Her voice sounds fine to me.

[Lucinda]

16. LOL

:thumbsup:

[durrrty libby]

14. Indeed, BO's stuttering, stammering and hee haws

were much more enjoyable than the timbre of Hillary's voice

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

15. Glad to see you're focusing on the issues...

...unlike those incompetent fuckwits at ABC.

[MonkeyFunk]

18. some here

could make a nice career at fuckwittery.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

22. This whole thing is so hypocritical to begin with.

See my rant here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5544677&mesg_id=5544677

[Name removed]

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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Onlooker]

20. It's probably that you're a sexist ...

... who would not accept any woman's voice on the presidential campaign trail. Otherwise, you're just a run-of-the-mill bigot or have a psychological disorder.

[cali]

27. nope. i'm not a sexist.

or a bigot. i've never used sexism or words that or remotely sexist here. or racist. or homophobic. I note minutia and I note that it plays a far bigger role than many people are willing to acknowledge. By the way, I also noted that Kerry's voice was a problem for him in 2004. Oddly, no one accused me of being a bigot or mentally ill. hmm. wonder why not. take your faux charges and shove 'em you know where, good and hard.

[GoesTo11]

23. Her voice sounds fake, like bad acting.

[Medusa]

25. Maybe because she IS a bad actress?

She's got a drama coach (seriously) but they ought to be fired along with the rest of her totally incompetent campaign.

[Orsino]

26. Well, a very little bit.

I hope I'm not holding that against her, though.

[MethuenProgressive]

28. "Her voice"?? If that's how you pick your Presidential candidate, you must be a DUbama.

How shallow, and sad.

[Blue_Roses]

30. yes, it's very irritating in that shrill tone

especially when she starts in on one of her "Obama scoldings" that she loves to do. It's like fingernails crawling down a blackboardx(

[Shae]

32. A few things about that.

Projecting her voice in speeches seems to make it more "shrill" than her normal speaking voice.
Also she tends to sound "preachy" at times.
Other times --such as when she's telling us how "disappointed" she is in something Barack did, she sounds insincere -- this is not just her voice, but gestures as well (shaking her head slowly and frowning, for example)

Added to that, when you dislike someone, many things about them get on your nerves -- the way they eat, talk, etc.
That said, I like Al Gore, but I never liked him as a speaker. He tends to talk to the audience as he would a five-year old. He may have improved in recent years though.

[Phillycat]

34. "It may be petty"...

Everything after the "but" is bullshit. It is petty.

[TwilightGardener]

35. Neither my husband or I can stand to listen to her anymore. We both

lunge for the mute button simultaneously. I haven't watched or listened to Chimpy for 8 years now, and if Hillary were the nominee, I'd have another four years of muting or turning off speeches.

edit to add: Elaine Benes on Seinfeld said it best: Hillary's voice is "flinty".

[northzax]

36. yup

it's that shrill female voice again. much better to have a deep, resonant, MALE voice leading us, Hillary wants to emasculate us, Barack will bring vigor back to our loins.

[Straight Shooter]

37. I like Hillary's voice just fine.

Obama is the one who grates on my nerves when he veers away from normal conversational tones. The uhhhhhs, uhmmmmmms, errrrrrs, don't help either.

As for the post upthread on Hillary nodding, if she didn't do that, she'd be accused of being wooden and non-interacting. No matter what she does with body language, she's criticized for it.