What's left For Hillary When She Loses?

[Razorblade01]

The liberal talk show hosts as well as Obama and co have vilified her to the point that I believe her political career is over. He's NOT going to appoint her V.P. and we all know this. So what is left for her? I voted for Hillary on Super Tuesday. Granted she has done a few things that disgusts even me. But I still can't believe the way the Democratic party has turned their collective backs on her and Bill. Hopefully she runs for her Senate Seat again or perhaps Governor Of N.Y. But could she win after all the swiftboating? I don't know...

Your Thoughts?

[mwb970]

1. I heard she is pretty good as a Senator.

Maybe she could go back to that.

[Razorblade01]

3. Would any Obama supporter ever vote for Her down the road?

She's probably be too old by then, but would any of you vote for her for President after Obama's out of the picture?

[jasmine621]

25. Not now. The plan was well carried out. BUT time heals most wounds

but it does not heal Clinton hate. The hate is irrational in the first place so there will be little change.

[Shae]

28. I doubt I would ever vote for her.

It has nothing to do with the way she has been "vilified." It has everything to do with the way she has tried to discredit Obama after he became the virtually-presumptive Democratic nominee.

[billyoc]

33. I plan to campaign against her again in the Senate primary in '12.

Many of us now consider *this* to be her '12 primary bid. :)

[ps1074]

2. 109 million?

:eyes:

[Razorblade01]

5. What about the Kennedy's?

They have millions. I don't see any of you gripe about them. It's not the problem that they have money. It's that she is running against your guy, face it. The Kennedys proved you canbe rich and still care about the poor. And I believe that Hiallary and Bill are the same. Besides.. Obama isn't exactly POOR. You can't be poor and run for President.

[karynnj]

18. Two differences

1) The Kennedys did not run calling LBJ, McCarthy or Carter elitists. That is what HRC did - at a point where she and her husband have been Democratic royalty, held to different standards than anyone else, for 15 years.

2) Much of the Clinton money came from sources that will have issues before the US government and many are countries run by people who we as Democrats have problems with. It is troubling when Bill Clinton gets $800,000 for 4 speeches from Colombia. The current version of the Colombia treaty is being rammed down the throats of Congress without even going to the committees with jurisdiction.

Kerry's comment:

BOSTON – Senator John Kerry sent a letter today to President George Bush, expressing his disappointment that the President sent an incomplete Colombian Free Trade Agreement to Congress for an immediate up or down vote.

“This trade deal is a slap in the face to thousands of people in Colombia who have been killed just trying to exercise the right to organize, and yet President Bush has refused to allow the proper Congressional committees even to have a voice in the process and negotiate improvements,” said Senator Kerry. “To unilaterally force an up or down vote on a bill negotiated solely by the Bush Administration is more than a mistake, it’s an outrage. I strongly urge the President to reconsider his position, and allow us to work together on trade.”

(from the letter itself)

<snip>
"As you are undoubtedly aware, it is a matter of standard procedure that the congressional committees of jurisdiction be permitted the opportunity to register concerns with legislation prior to it being filed under trade promotion authority. To sidestep this critical negotiating step by unilaterally forcing an up or down vote on a bill negotiated solely by the Administration is an abuse of trade promotion authority, and frankly justifies abandoning any effort to reestablish that privilege for the remaining months of your Administration.

Several objections that have been raised against the legislation deserve your attention, and must be addressed prior to consideration of the agreement. At the top of the list is the persistent violence waged against trade unionists in Colombia. Twelve union members have been killed this year alone, and over the past twenty years more than 2,500 have lost their lives exercising a right considered to be fundamental to America’s workers."



http://kerry.senate.gov/cfm/record.cfm?id=295872

[Razorblade01]

23. The Kennedy's Aren't Considered Elitest or Dem Royalty?

..and about Kennedy. Please. We all know how old man Joe got wealthy off Bootlegging in the old days.. Not to belittle the Kennedy's but you mentioned it..

[karynnj]

36. There are conflicting stories

on whether or not Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger - not to mention that I'm not speaking of him - but his sons. So, even if I concede the point, it would be like blaming Chelsea if it assumed Bill or HRC did something wrong.

I think the Kennedys were part of the social elite, which they were brought up to think gave them a responsibility to return something to the community. They did not take it to mean that they were better than others, just privileged. Look at the legislation that Ted Kennedy got passed. Listen to the words of RFK.

The word "elitist" is related to the word "elite", but there is a huge difference. Elitist was defined as the belief in the rule by an alite class of people. I would concede that the Kennedy brothers were born into the upper crust - as was John Kerry and Howard Dean. Yet, I see nothing in their actions that suggest they thought that their wealth and background entitled them to rule. (Howard Dean grew up in a home facing Central Park on Park Avenue in Manhattan. His family was old money and connected very distantly to all the other elite NE families.)

You don't answer that they didn't run calling others elitists and they themselves weren't involved with bad foreign governments.

[BobRossi]

4. "The View"

Or some other cackle fest.

[Razorblade01]

6. So are you anti Female for Prez?

Sounds like it.

[greguganus]

8. No, we are anti-cackle. n/t

[Razorblade01]

12. Which sounds like your anti female

N/T

[greguganus]

29. Nope, I've heard men cackle too. n/t

[greguganus]

7. Cackle fest

:rofl: :popcorn:

[polpilot]

20. Divorce Court?

[Olney Blue]

9. She will continue to serve in politics, and live a rich, full life.

I admire this woman very much, as a woman myself.

[C_U_L8R]

10. Ashes

of self-immolation and a puddle of self-pity

[MonkeyFunk]

11. She'll continue to be

powerful and successful, just to piss you off.

[Bentcorner]

13. She will have to work hard in the Senate with another Republican president.

If Obama is given the nomination, we are looking at a McCain presidency.

[Razorblade01]

14. I don't think so.

Those millions of young new voters did not sign up as Democrats only to let McCain win. Just can't see that. Wait for a few debates between Obama and Mccain. Obama will eat him alive!

[mwb970]

15. How do you come up with this?

McSame is a clueless old man whose brain is fried from being tortured. He promises a continuation of bush policies and endless war in Iraq at a time when 81% of the public says the country is on the wrong track, precisely because of bush and his War.

Obama is young and vital and represents the future. McSame is old and tired and represents the past. (He heard the news about Pearl Harbor in person, for God's sake!) And yet you are sure at this early point (nobody has even been nominated yet) that America will choose in November to continue down the path 81% of us have called "wrong" instead of voting for the change we all say we want.

Sorry, I just don't get it.

[Bentcorner]

31. He's running for President of the United States, not the President of Democratic Underground

Polls show that most Americans think Iraq was a mistake, but they also show that they favor McCain over Obama or Clinton. You might think he is a clueless old man and make fun of the fact that he was a POW, but more Americans prefer him then the other two candidates.

[bowens43]

16. She's finished in politics, so who knows.

[Orsino]

17. She will cruise to reelection in the Senate.

That seat's hers for as long as she wants it.

[Medusa]

19. Don't know, don't care just so long as she's NOT the nominee

and if I were a resident of NY, I'd be backing anyone but her when she runs for reelection to her senate seat.

[IsItJustMe]

21. You have the same thoughts I do. Who gives a rats azz?

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. She'll survive. Maybe she'll learn to bake cookies, or something.

She has no worries, financially or otherwise.

[Razorblade01]

26. Spoken like a real Chauvinist!

You didn't also sign up for the Three Stooges's woman haters club did ya? Just kidding.

[JVS]

24. She can spend her time doing shots in crummy bars in Indiana

[WillyT]

27. Hmmm...

:evilgrin:

[greguganus]

30. "Screw 'em!" n/t

[billyoc]

32. An unsuccessful bid for Senate majority leader and a crushing Senate primary defeat. nt

[saltpoint]

34. She and Howard Wolfson will be able to earn a living in the northern

states, shoveling people's drive ways with all those snow shovels they ordered in Iowa.

See? They plan for the long-term.

[merh]

35. They are the ones that have turned their back on the party

When she said that McCain was more experienced than Obama she turned away from the party.

As they negatively campaign against Obama, they turn their backs on the party.

They have done the RNC's work for them, they have used Rovian tactics and run negative and it is the Clintons that have hurt the Clintons and turned away from the party.

The party hasn't kicked them to the curb which is exactly what it should do.

[Mobius]

37. Dancing With The Stars

followed by an appearance as a body on CSI

[DemVet]

38. IF she loses, she should go kick Harry Reid's ass to the curb...

...and TAKE the Senate Majority Leader position. Senator Obama, if he gets by McCain, will have to go by Senator Clinton for all his legislative plans.