Judging by the posts today.....

[Uben]

.....Clinton musta wiped the floor with Obama last night. When the other side is attacking the moderators, you know their guy lost!

[saltpoint]

1. In Denver in late summertime the candidate who doesn't wear pearls

will be the one who takes the podium.

ABC is getting what it deserves on the left blogs this morning.

[Uben]

2. Oh, you mean..

he ones that support Obama? Figures.

[saltpoint]

14. Left blogs, period. ABC's conduct of a public forum, selling its sponsors'

wares on public airwaves by contract, was sub-standard.

Jim Lehrer, had he been the moderator last night, would have given us something worth listening to.

[Mezzo]

26. I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you. nt

[saltpoint]

28. The polling could go the other way, of course. But it doesn't feel like it to me.

Clinton has lost the nomination.

[roguevalley]

69. there isn't one good review of these debates in any newspaper

you care to point to and the crowd booed the moderators. You should have watched it before you popped off. Hilarity didn't 'mop' the floors up with anyone but interesting choice of words.

[saltpoint]

77. We agree. Read my post again for clarity.

I wasn't popping off in any case. I've distrusted ABC News for some time now.

[tekisui]

3. Did you watch the debate?

The questions were horrendous. It was a debate for the superdelegates, not the people pf PA or America. It was all about "eletabitity" and controversies. Little to no actual substance.

[JoFerret]

37. Questions were a great opportunity

for Obama to start preparing for the firestorm to come.

[tekisui]

38. He did well.

I am not worried about him as our Nominee.

[Rockholm]

52. He did not do well at all. Did you watch the same debate I did?

[meow mix]

4. i guess you dont read the news much. try it sometime.

stupid post lol
:eyes:

[rodeodance]

5. YES, obama foks blaming everyone expect looking at their own candidate.

[Tellurian]

22. Of course, it's ALWAYS about Obama..

screw the issues ...or anyone else that matters who has a plan to fix this broken country. Obama's feewing have been hurt.. let's assault the abc network because he couldn't stand up for himself!

[otohara]

74. Nice Try Mr. Subject Line Only

poster! Those were some dumb ass questions and you know it!

[Cooley Hurd]

6. Everyone is attacking the debate mods - ESPECIALLY from within the media...

Neither candidate won last night.:thumbsdown:

[rodeodance]

11. "Everyone" more broad brushing. --

[meow mix]

12. everyone except the 9 insignificant hillary supporters on DU

which is about all she can gather!
:rofl:

[Evergreen Emerald]

58. Wow. Mob mentality. I personally am not one to follow the crowd just to follow the crowd

The "crowd" on DU is a bunch of bullies.

[ampad]

60. Naww I counted like 15 last night

I have so many of them on ignore but I counted like 15 last night all giddy with her performance posting stupid shit like go Hillary. I see there are still some I don't have on ignore. Those are usually the ones that pop up when something "good" happens for Hillary. :rofl:

[Cooley Hurd]

20. Find me a positive review...

Betcha can't.

[Cooley Hurd]

34. Still waiting. Have you found positive review yet?

:shrug:

[Cooley Hurd]

40. Those positive reviews must be REALLY well hidden, no?

Lambchop!:D

[Cooley Hurd]

70. Still waiting...

AYIAYA'm stiiil waiting!

[PVnRT]

73. I'm sure Hannity thought the moderators did good

[chimpymustgo]

21. "ESPECIALLY from within the media..." - Obama's personal cheering section. They wept, poor babies.

[Cooley Hurd]

24. You think the debate questions were fair to EITHER candidate?

:shrug:

[Cooley Hurd]

71. Another Clinton supporter who minces words....

Still waiting....

[Windy]

7. If you condone what went on last night, you are a fan of the same old crap we have endured

for the last eight years!

It was a pitiful attack. The media wants to keep the horserace going for the benefit of their coffers. They make money on the controversy.
The hell with the issues.


And HRC's attack mode has proven not to work for her. Obama was cool under fire. We'll see. All the calls I've heard to talk shows this morning have been irate over the tenor of the debate last night.

[Tellurian]

25. Cool? He drank a cup of Hemlock in front of the World last night..

His religion comes before his patriotism to our country.

Or didn't you catch that?

[shayes51]

8. O's supporters seem to be blaming the questioners

for his answers. Go figure.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. Well

they blame Clinton for making him say stupid things.

[onehandle]

9. Being an impartial observer here... The mods last night were total tools.

Reading Rove approved questions.

It was a farce for both candidates.

[Oleladylib]

10. Obama will NEVER survive the scrutiny of McCain and crew...Better we not even think it..

[Yossariant]

13. Spot on post. The Obama fans are whining all over the net --- looking to blame anyone and

everyone except Barack.

Again and still, they resemble Bush and the Bots.

[seabeyond]

15. kerry won all four, media came out and said won three. still attacked moderators

your theory doesnt hold up. a person can win and still the moderators are shitty. further, i would suggest with the crappy media regardless the moderators are going to be crappy....

i didnt watch the show. i dont know who won. i asked and have read and from all sides and blogs and news i have heard it is mccain that won.

[Vinca]

16. She didn't "wipe the floor" with him unless you consider aiding and abetting

the continuation and accentuation of every faux issue from Wright to flag pins for half a debate wiping the floor. It was disgusting. How Obama held himself back I'll never know. He even had an opening to talk about what the Republicans would use against Hillary (the usual Clinton scandals) and he refused to name them, staying on the high road. She was baiting him throughout the entire "debate," trolling for a commercial-worthy tidbit. It didn't happen.

[Tellurian]

27. Oh my.. how blinded you are..

[Vinca]

32. I hope you'll vote Democratic in November. nt

[Tellurian]

35. I won't have a problem.. Hillary will be the nominee..

now the question comes...will you vote democratic in the general?

[Pirate Smile]

17. Read the media critiques focused on how terrible the moderators were last night.

It is truly sad to see some Clinton supporters celebrating the worst and most destructive parts of current day politics and media. It is also unbelievably short-sighted.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5544859&mesg_id=5544859

It was so terrible that the media itself is having to call bullsh$% on the performance of ABC. They made themselves the story.

[Tellurian]

31. Why...Hillary survived the Russert- Williams slug fest..

because she took control of the moderators. It was up to Obama to control the conversation. He couldn't because his views are unacceptable regarding his association with Wright. It's called the 'cake and eat it too' syndrome.

[Medusa]

18. Read the newspaper reviews of ABC's debate

ABC is getting ripped a new one for their obvious bias and devotion to the trivial in last night's debate. It's not just Obama supporters who feel that way.

[my3boyz]

23. No you know that one side was treated unfairly! Meet ignore! nt

[Uben]

29. Hi ignore!

Meet "I don't give a fuck!"

[igor2008]

30. Totally Pwned without his teleprompter and speechwriters

[Tellurian]

33. Also, Obama had Edwards to hide behind for so long..

now that the "real" Obama has been exposed for what he is...it's not a pretty picture.

[JoFerret]

36. That's a fair test

Although when Russert and Williams sandbagged Clinton I did a bit of the same thing. But as I thought she clearly won that debate on merit of her answers I did not start the whining and hand-wringing.

Obama had a trial by fire. this debate was a great preparation for the firestorm to come if he is the nominee. This is something that Clinton supporters have been warning everyone about for weeks. The GOP onslaught will be relentless. He better start getting ready.

[DemVet]

39. Hillary kicked his butt!

And that's a fact.

Senator Obama simply wasn't prepared to deal with the questions he was asked. Questions Democrats want to know about.

[Hepburn]

67. Democrats want to know about flag pins???

WTF have you been smoking this morning???

:rofl:

[SeaLyons]

41. Hillary is Presidential...

Obama is defensive and angry. He lost it. A preview of how he will do against McCain.

[NOLALady]

56. I would imagine

any thinking person should be angry about the last 8 years.

If they're not angry, they're not paying attention.

[ruggerson]

42. It's interesting psychologically isn't it

[hayu_lol]

44. This was not a debate...

we haven't had debates in this country since the Lincoln/Douglas debate some time back.

This is pure infotainment with a couple of media cretins asking what they consider to be 'cute' questions.

They should have tossed out some important questions and then let the two candidates debate with each other.

Sometimes issues are much more important than containing the info to fit into the 'time for commercial break' box.

Even Geraldo could have done a better job.

Time to return presidential debates to the League Of Women Voters.

[izzybeans]

43. You should try watching next time. You will see what a joke they made of political discourse.

Truthfully Clinton got some very unfair questions as well, but it was a clear attempt to take out the front-runner.

[marshall]

45. They didn't bring up Hillary's skeletons

The debate concentrated on Obama's contacts and parsing things he has said over the course of the past few weeks.

Where was the discussion about Hillary under sniper fire? Or Vince Foster? The Rose Law firm billing records? The White House travel office firings? Hillary's brothers getting pay offs for Bill's pardons? Or even Hillary's insulting comments to Tammy Wynette.

There are tons of things that Obama could sling at Hillary. But he chooses to take the high road.

[Barack_America]

46. You consider WaPo and Editor and Publisher to be "the other side"?

You should read what they have to say about the debate.

Editor and Publisher:

"In perhaps the most embarrassing performance by the media in a major presidential debate in years, ABC News hosts Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolous focused mainly on trivial issues as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama faced off in Philadelphia."


WaPo:

"Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos, turned in shoddy, despicable performances."

[NJmaverick]

47. Strange, very strange

you seem to have no grasp of logic or reason. If one side is complaining about the moderators, there are two possibilities, the moderators were very bad or their candidate lost. Now it's would be simplistic, foolish and wrong to assume it must have been one of the possibilities in the absence of anymore information.

[Neshanic]

48. You are correct sir!

[democrattotheend]

49. Even Clinton supporters have conceded it was unbalanced

Even Rendell said it was a gotcha debate.

[Maribelle]

50. Rendell is playing goodcop, and he's doing a great job.

[Justitia]

51. No, Mrs. Impeached President just swam further into the gutter than she usually does. -eom

[Maribelle]

55. If she swam in any gutter - - it was Obama's gutter.

[Justitia]

57. He doesn't suck up to the right wing media like Mrs Stand-By-Your-Lying -Man -eom

[Maribelle]

61. Ha-ha-ha He sucks up to the right more than any Democratic presidential candidate has ever done

His pandering of republicans all the while refusing to allow 2.2 million Democrats in Florida and Michigan a revote is perhaps reason enough to call him the greatest republican suck up in the history of the Democratic Party.

[Justitia]

64. No, that would be Mr. & Mrs. I Did Not Have Sex With That Woman - RW Liars both. -eom

[Maribelle]

65. I'm truly surprised that some Obama followers still have their noses stuck in Clinton's zipper.

That's truly sad - - and those track marks are extremely ugly.

[Justitia]

66. Hey YOU guys brought the RIGHT WING back in vogue. And of course, the REPUBS will go there, right??

You want to fling shit, be prepared for the blowback.

I'm not saying anything the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy hasn't been preparing for Mrs. Impeachment in her Presidential run.

Guess she'll just have to get used to answering those questions over and over and over and over again.

We're just "vetting" her answers, like she did to Obama last night.

Suck it up.

[Maribelle]

68. Ha ha ha - - that shit you see flying is the splash Obama followers are making...

duck

[Maribelle]

53. Well, just picture Obama in a GE debate trying to throw cookie batter on McCain

Obama was truly deplorable last night - - totally unpresidential, weak, and not hardly prepared for the general election debates.

[Mass]

54. The only winner in this debate was McCain, courtesy of ABCGOP.

Because Obama was the frontrunner, Clinton did not get as many gotcha questions, but every single question could have been casted by FOX, be they addressed to Clinton or Obama.

[Maribelle]

59. Clinton got ALL the gotcha questions when she was the front runner and Obama got all the free passes

It's Obama's turn now - - and he failed. His responses were weak and dismissive, as if he doesn't have any baggage at all. However, his baggage is overweight with the little tricks he is trying to bury under his socks.

[Raffi Ella]

62. oh yeah.

She did. The MSM took the gloves off and started treating Barack like they do Senator Clinton on a daily basis, they just can't handle that.

It's amazing watching them react to it...

[Eurobabe]

63. C'ya!

[gcomeau]

72. Sure.

"When the other side is attacking the moderators, you know their guy lost!"

Of course, when half the planet is attacking the moderators that's a whole different story.

The ABCNews story on the debate is coming up on sixteen and a half thousand almost entirely pissed off comments about the travesty that was that debate. I can't remember the last time I saw a news story on that site with a couple hundred total comments. A google search for "Worst Debate Ever" will fill the front page search results with stories about last night. The news articles critiquing the debate today are filled with commentary on the total waste of time it was. Even the Clinton supporters jumping up and down and commending ABC are doing it for, to paraphrase most of the remarks... "finally hitting Obama", which is only admitting that that's what the moderators did, jumped all over Obama when they were supposed to be neutral and unbiased. And if they had done it on substantive policy issues that would have been one thing... but what did we get? Almost the entire opening HOUR filled with:

Senator Obama, don't you like our flag? Senator Obama, how patriotic is the pastor of your church? Senator Obama, this guy that was on the board of a charity you were on the board of did bad things when you were eight years old... explain why you have apparently breathed the air in the same room at the same time. Etc...

And then the part that topped it off for me, Gibson apologizes, to CLINTON, for spending more time on Obama... as if Hillary was all broken up about the inquisition being conducted across the stage while she jumped in and piled on with the personal attacks when the opportunity presented itself. "Oh gosh golly gee Senator Clinton, we sure are sorry we're spending a totally unequal amount of time over here demanding Senator Obama explain the words, actions, and personal feelings of every person who has ever passed within a hundred yards of him. That sure isn't fair to you ma'am, we'll fix that right up later by letting you talk some policy."

There is no real ambiguity on this, that debate was a complete travesty. It was a disgrace. Anyone defending it has some serious ethical shortcomings, or just plain wasn't paying attention to what was happening.

[depakid]

75. Shallow thinking

that's about all I have to say to that....

[DainBramaged]

76. Sure, you pay attention to your surroundings

You must have not spent enough time at mime school. Go back, you need practice.

Typical Shillbot.