Clinton Not Winning Over Undecided Superdelegates With Obama bashing

[tekisui]

Hillary Clinton's bludgeoning of Barack Obama for his guns-and-religion gaffe doesn't seem to be winning over the most crucial audience for her long shot presidential hopes - undecided Democratic superdelegates.

"She's not changing my mind," said superdelegate Deborah Kozikowski of Chicopee, Mass., a founder of RuralVotes.com, a Web site devoted to small-town priorities.

"To me, this is a wash. He made a mistake. How he handles it, and what his policies are, will be more important to me than a slip of the tongue."

Rank-and-file Democrats seem to agree.

Polls taken over the past week show Obama suffered little damage among likely voters in Pennsylvania's April 22 primary after saying blue-collar small-town voters "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them...to explain their frustrations."

Clinton hit Obama's words as "elitist" and "talking down" to heartland Americans - seeking a game-changer to shake Obama off his front-runner's perch and drive up her vote in Pennsylvania and the remaining primaries.

But the only way she can catch Obama is to pull a vast majority of the 250 or so uncommitted superdelegates to her side.

And superdelegates contacted by the Daily News all said they viewed Obama's comments as an inartful stumble on the campaign trail, not a fatal mistake.

"It's all part of a longer process, in which we are getting to know more about our candidates, and our candidates are getting to know more about running," said attorney Ralph Dawson, a New York superdelegate who remains undecided.

Many superdelegates said the comments were less important than how Obama is handling the pile-on by Clinton and Republican candidate John McCain.

"What I want to see," said Christine Pelosi, daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, "is how can you withstand that pressure, how can you withstand the echo chamber.

"I'm impressed so far that acknowledged that he made a mistake with his words," she added, "but he didn't back down from the sentiment behind them."

She said all the candidates are attempting to address working people's concerns, "so it's a bit disingenuous for McCain and Clinton to suddenly jump on what Obama is saying without getting to the substance of it."

link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/04/17/2008-04-17_clinton_not_winning_over_undecided_super.html

[Zachstar]

1. It is strange. Clinton has to pull in the Undecided Supers to win and perhaps overturn

So hopefully this point will get her to stop this crap so we can return to debating the issues.

[SunsetDreams]

2. The Supers can't be fooled, just like most of the American People

NOT THIS TIME!

[sonias]

5. That's it exactly, SunsetDreams

The American voters and that includes the Superdelegates, see an opportunity to get past politics as usual. Hillary is running a campaign model of the past, where "got ya style" politics is at the core of the campaign. The republicans are going to make the same mistake this fall supporting John "W rerun" McCain.

Not this time - this time the people will vote for a real change.

Sonia

[tekisui]

6. Of the remaining SD's uncommitted, 100 are elected reps.

Governors, Reps, and Senators. They have to get re-elected, so they will break for the one who has the people--Obama.

The other 218 are DNC and Democratic Party Leaders.

Obama only needs about 100 superdelegates to clinch it, based on projected outcomes of the last 10 contests.

[CakeGrrl]

3. Endgame. The supers get it

but HRC can't help but roll around in the gutter at the slightest opportunity. It's like an addiction she can't kick in this campaign.

Blowback, Backlash, Backfire.

[Medusa]

4. It's not even about the supers at this point

the Clintons pretty much know who they can sway and who they can't at this point in the game. Right now they are just trying to make damn sure that Obama loses in the General so Hillary can come back in 2012 as the nominee.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. It's now or never for her.

If she can't win now, she'll never have a chance in 2012.

[Shae]

11. It isn't even "now" for her.

She's trashed herself too much in the primary. If she ever was "electable," I don't think she is now. We've seen her ugly side. If Obama were to lose the general, and she ran in the 2012 primary, I don't think she'd ever be be frontrunner. Just IMHO.

[roguevalley]

22. its amazing that after all this shit, she thinks we would even what

to look at her again. NEVER.

[ShortnFiery]

8. It goes to character and integrity of HRC and It's NOT good.

:thumbsdown:

[MagickMuffin]

9. Now would be the time for a massive move towards Barack

especially after last night's "debate?" If that's what they're calling it.

[tekisui]

10. They should stand up and say, enough is enough.

Obama has held a statistically significant lead Nationally for over a week now.

I now see why he is not wanting to go through another debate in NC. That was pathetic.

[MagickMuffin]

16. Barack is beating her nationally by 8.2%

What network is doing the NC debate. If it's ABC, Obama should tell them he's busy. Watching that last night was a disaster.

[tekisui]

17. It was scheduled for the 27th of April.

But, the venue wasn't decided and it is to be CBS.

I think Obama knew what was coming last night, because yesterday he said that he may not participate in the NC debate.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x129268

[shadowknows69]

12. She's got nothing left. She admitted last night she thought Obama could win the GE

[tekisui]

14. That was her last argument.

She gave the Supers an out.

Her exact words to the question of whether Obama could beat mccain were: "Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes."

I agree.

[pdxmom]

13. Hillary gave away her one argument for the SDs to overturn the

will of the voters when she emphatically agreed that Obama could win against McCain.

If she's still making that argument behind closed doors to try to win over supers, then she's proving that the 60% who don't trust her have it right.

[tekisui]

15. Obama needs only 100 more Supers. Hillary needs 275+.

It's not gonna happen for her. 100 of the supers left are elected officials and have to think about being re-elected officials.

[hokies4ever]

18. Flag pin question origin

Here's a website including info about the lady that asked the flag lapel pin question in the ABC debate, Nash McCabe. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/us/politics/04penn.html?fta=y
Turns out she was an Obama-hater all along. She claims that she just focuses on the fact that Obama doesn't wear a flag pin whenever she sees him. Keep in mind that this lady is recently unemployed. Commonsense would tell you she should worry about her job and not a flag pin. What an idiot.
Pass this info along.

[niceypoo]

19. Obama has 1/3 of the Democratic party saying they wont vote for him....

This is a very, very big problem for him. He really needs to start trying to control all the abuse and mudslinging done by his supporters, all in his name, if he want's to get Hillary's supporters to vote for him in November. If not he is toast.

[tekisui]

20. Once he is the Nominee, the healing will begin.

Hillary has her fair share to do, to bring us together, as well.

[bowens43]

21. Complete bullshit.

Those who say they won't vote him are doing so because they are bitter about their candidate being soundly rejected by the American people. They will either come around or they won't either way, Obama is a better choice then Hillary. The independents that will be gained by an Obama nomination will more then make up for the small percentage of Hillary crusaders who will vote for McCain or stay home.

[roguevalley]

23. those who say they are voting for him are full of shit. they HATE THIS

COUNTRY or they would help put the dem, ANY DEM in the white house. If Hilarity won the nod, I would vote. I would vomit but I would vote. anyone who stays out because they are putting themselves first HATE this country and this world. Fuck them.

[ej510]

24. Race is a major factor. I love how these backward trailor trash people in these small towns try.....

to come up with all kinds of bullshit reasons not to vote for him. Until these morons are gone we will never progress.

[ORDem]

25. K!

:kick:

[tekisui]

26. Obama picked up two more Superdelegates today!