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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:47 AM
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ABC News was mean to Prince Obama last night.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 07:48 AM by indimuse
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ABC News was mean to Prince Obama last night. For some unknown reason, Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolous broke with the MSNBC/CNN tradition and went after Barack Obama with the assault-style politics that is normally reserved for Hillary Rodham Clinton. And they took away his teleprompter!

The Obamabots are horrified. They are aghast. They are furious. And they are throwing a hissy-fit all over the shrillosphere.

Oh woe and gnashing of teeth! The young Prince was beaten by a girl!

Well boo-f%@king-hoo.


The same attack-style journalism that inspires cheers and raucous jubilation when it is fired at the girl draws gasps of outraged horror when it is dumped upon the young Prince.

Well, isn't that just too bad for the Precious. And welcome to the club, Obamabots. The U.S. media is sick and deranged, but for some reason surviving the derangement is a presidential test. Last night Obama finally got a taste of the treatment that Hillary Rodham Clinton has long been accustomed to. The untested Prince failed miserably.


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Over at Obama Post, this atrocity is condemned as: A Shameful Night for the U.S. Media! At American Prospect, we are told that THESE QUESTIONS ARE A DISGRACE! And Barack Obama's most loyal subject, Andrew Sullivan, calls it The ABC News “Freak Show”!

In the 10,000+ comments at ABC News, we learn that Obamabots WILL NEVAH EVAH WATCH ABC NEWS AGAIN!!! AHH...POOR Obamacrats....:(

Initial withering assessments of The Horrid and Shameful National Disgrace that has been wrongfully Imposed upon Poor Poor Prince Obama follow:

Riverdaughter: "Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male" and "How Hillary Clinton Destroyed The Democratic Party By Purposefully Knowing More Stuff Than Barack Obama."

Lambert: 50% of WCVB focus group believe Clinton won! Vs. 27% for Obama.

Jeralyn: Of course, the questions in this debate were no different than those in previous debates that lacked substance and seemed designed to put a candidate on the hot seat -- the difference was that this time (for once) it was Obama, not Hilary getting the heat. . Hillary was stronger, more confident, likable and, most importantly, more presidential. You could see her in that role. Obama came off defensive and a tad angry.

Taylor Marsh: o one should be surprised that Obama had a nightmare night. He finally got real questions for which he should have had ready answers. Over the last year Barack Obama has gotten a complete pass on his record, his life and everything associated to his political rise. In fact, if Senator Obama had been subjected to the scrutiny that Hillary Clinton has been subjected to he would have turned to ash by now. So forgive me if all the blogospheric bellyaching permeating Democratic circles is not impressing me much. In fact, it's a laugh out loud moment.

The New York Times: hroughout the 90-minute debate, Mr. Obama was placed on the defensive, explaining his association with his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., as well as his connection to Bill Ayers, a Chicago supporter who was a member of the Weatherman Underground and is now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Those issues were raised in a tough round of questions posed by Mr. Stephanopoulos and Mr. Gibson, who in many ways presented a mirror image of earlier debates in which two NBC moderators, Tim Russert and Brian Williams, repeatedly pressed Mrs. Clinton with tough and provocative questions.

Andrew Sullivan: It was a lifeless, exhausted, drained and dreary Obama we saw tonight. I've seen it before when he is tired, but this was his worst performance yet on national television. He seemed crushed and unable to react. This is big-time politics and he's up against the Clinton wood-chipper. But there is no disguising the fact that he wilted, painfully. . Obama has also shown a failure to be resilient in this grueling process. And so this was indeed a huge night for the Republicans, and the first real indicator to me that Clinton is gaining in her fundamental goal at this point: the election of John McCain against Barack Obama. How else will she rescue the Democrats from hope?

Marc Ambinder: Keeping the score card, there's no way Obama could fared worse. Nearly 45 minutes of relentless political scrutiny from the ABC anchors and from Hillary Clinton, followed by an issues-and-answers session in which his anger carried over and sort of neutered him. . it seemed as if he was surprised by the pace of the questions and all the air was gone from his answers. There was no fight. . < via >

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:49 AM
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1. God(ABC) save the Queen!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:11 AM
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27. by the reaction of all his supporter's it's :
God save the Messiah!

He is special, he can't be treated like that!! :eyes: y'all wouldn't last a day as a Hillary supporter, not a day.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:13 AM
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29. I wouldn't want to.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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37. Believe me
if this is how y'all react to last night's less than kid glove treatment of Barack then there is no way in hell you would be ABLE to handle how the media and his supporter's treat her EVER DAY.

Y'all blow up every tiny freakin' thing Hillary says and does every single day here - We do NOT act the way y'all are acting today.


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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:26 AM
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45. Not to mention how the media will treat him if and when he wins the nomination
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:29 AM
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50. Seriously!
MSM will turn on Barack if he wins the nom and cheerlead McCain all the way up until November! If he and his supporter's can't handle this then there is no way they will be able to handle the general! No Way!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:32 AM
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55. I can handle it just fine. As can Obama.
No worries here. I know we play within the M$M, and Obama is ready for it.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:39 AM
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66. "I know we play within the M$M"
I don't understand, what does that mean?

I don't think Barack handled himself well at all last night. And honestly, why is it the first time the MSM has asked those questions? Why were they a surprise to him? Why does he get angry and defensive and stammer when a tough question is asked?

He's so used to being handled with kid gloves that he was shocked they were treating him like they've treated Hillary all along, and it was obvious!

He was under pressure last night and he came off badly. Blame ABC but in the end Hillary handles this kind of stuff daily and would have been prepared for ANY thing ABC threw at her.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:43 AM
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70. We play within the M$M.
That is the filter that America is fed through.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #55
90. Sure. That snippy temper, so like Georgie's.
Yeah, we all want more of that.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #55
115. Really? Because he sure wasn't ready for it last night.
Bake
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:11 AM
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117. Obama
"And Senator Clinton's right. She has gone through this. You know, I recall when back in 1992, when she made a statement about how, what do you expect, should I be at home baking cookies?

And people attacked her for being elitist and this and that. And I remember watching that on TV and saying, well, that's not who she is; that's not what she believes; that's not what she meant. And I'm sure that that's how she felt a s well.

But the problem is that that's the kind of politics that we've been accustomed to. And I think Senator Clinton learned the wrong lesson from it, because she's adopting the same tactics.

What the American people want are not distractions. They want to figure out, how are we actually going to deliver on health care; how are we going to deliver better jobs for people; how are we going to improve their incomes; how are we going to send them to college?

That's what we have to focus on. And yes, they are in part frustrated and angry, because this is what passes for our politics in terms -- instead of figuring out, how do we build coalitions to actually move things forward?"
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #45
87. This was an opportunity to prepare
...for that onslaught.
It was a GIFT. No more free passes and then - BOOM! - the GOP strikes in October.
If Obama can't withstand this then he is not ready for prime time.
And obama folk - most people are not paying attention to who "won" this debate. Hillary was clearly the stronger and better prepared. But don't fuss and fret. He is still doing extremely well. This will not create a dent (unfortunately imo). So go back to the gloating.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #87
131. They will in a couple of days
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the wailing. :popcorn:
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #27
92. That's why we're not Pro-War, Pro-NAFTA, Pro-McCain Hillary 'supporters'
'Hillary enablers' would be the proper term.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #92
101. I don't mind enabling the first serious woman candidate for POTUS.
Probably the only one we will ever see, thanks to the Obama worshippers.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:24 PM
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119. 'first serious woman' ...? 'first serious woman'? 'FIRST serious woman?'
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:40 PM
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129. Apoplexy? Call a medic!
Yeah. The first. The only. Have others tried? You betcha. Not even close to first base. They weren't taken seriously. Were the women serious? Yeah, much good it did them then and now. But this time, this time it was serious and the assault has been relentless...and still the primary is not decided.

So call a doctor for the hysteria because it might be something worse...and pay attention to what you've done.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #92
139. "I'm not against all wars, just dumb wars" "and onto the right battlefieds" - Obama
not exactly "anti-war" eh?
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:30 AM
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51. Heh! Good line.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:31 AM by JohnnyLib2
Maybe more of a warrior-queen...


Recommended
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:08 PM
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118. what a stupid title on the OP. The debate was 'mean' to all America
for the dipshitery they displayed. Even the damned crowd booed. Why do these posts sound like no one watched? Second one today.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:52 AM
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3. no, genius. ABC was dismissive ot the American elect;orate
I know it's too much to hope that those of your ilk could actually figure it out, so I'll explain in very simple language for the hopelessly dim: The American people are concerned about feeding their families, not whether Obama wears a flag pin or whether hillary exaggerated her experience in Bosnia.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:53 AM
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5. Umm...as ingenious as YOU are to your freaking sub line? She did better than him. Get over it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:56 AM
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11. that's immaterial to my point and to the fact
that playing this game hasn't won her what she needs: SDs. They continue to avoid her like the plague, and they continue endorsing Obama. Get over it. She's toast.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:07 AM
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21. buyers remorse...
Hillary Won the primary last night! Get over it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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36. bwahahahaha. hilly won the primary last night?
bzzzt she's losing and your head exploding in your posts shows even you don't believe your own hill-arious spin.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:14 AM
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30. "She did better than him. Get over it."
I second that


:toast:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:25 AM
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41. it won't help her. her campaign is flailing and SDs are going to
him, not her. 4 in the last 2 days. she's still done. get over it and relax. learn to say President Obama.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:33 AM
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57. She did better than he - not him.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:55 AM
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8. It was just like all the other debates, except "Precious" got tough questions, too. He melted.
So quit whining and bitching and moaning.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:03 AM
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:09 AM
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116. Please. Finish your thought. "Racist pigs like ..." WHO?
Please, Cali, drop the "anybody who opposed Obama must be a racist" bullshit. It's not attractive, and more important, it's not true.

Bake
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #116
138. the implication is intuitivly obvious to the most casual observer
not Obabma fan=racist pig. going to be a real winning strategy in the GE if Barry is the nominee isn't it.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:23 AM
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140. Yessireee, that's a real winner there.
That's really get all the non-AA voters energized ... (actually, it MIGHT, but not in a good way).

Bake
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:32 AM
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54. haha, SUDDENLY
they want to burn the media at the stake!!!! LOL, they've been LOVING the way Hillary has been treated by them. It's AMAZING watching them react to this, just amazing. They wouldn't last a friggin minute as a Hillary supporter.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:33 AM
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93. They can't.
Their generation got awards for attendance. They have no idea how to cope with criticism because no one ever gave them any.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:56 AM
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9. NO SHIT!
Obama is WEAK and couldn't 'feed' the MIC one decent answer..HU..uuuhhh....huu...uuuh....duuuh
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:01 AM
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:03 AM
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14. Crystal clear!!!!
BO just isn't ready for the big time. It's so clear. It's not about race or sex but experience. We don't want another four years of "handlers" running the country. We want someone who is knowledgeable from experience and intellect. He has the intellect but not the experience. News Flash ....Obama BIG FAIL!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:08 AM
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22. Ding ding ding!!! THe Precious Prince is not ready for Prime Time. Let him VEEP for 8 years, maybe.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:33 AM
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58. except that he's already proven he is by beating the entitled whiner
and no, it's not just about experience. It's about temperment and judgment. hillypoo has demonstrated that she's about as presidential as Nixon. And Obama is winning. hill's chance of getting the nomination is under 10%. Time to stick that shiny fork in.
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:27 PM
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125. Obama's biggest liability is your kind of support.
I don't think he's ready for this particular job right now, but I do think he is elite. Check a thesaurus. Elite means: cream of the crop, influential, select few, best. Some of his supporters? ...not so much.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:11 AM
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26. tsk tsk
You're getting angry again. You know Obama did poorly last night. Don't take it out on others.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:26 AM
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44. well, you BO folks have been awfully concerned about Hillary's Bosnia experience.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #44
71. Haven't they just!!?
As if THAT is talking about issues and isn't "old school politics"!

There was NEVER any of this "concern" that it was bad for the American People and bad for the Party then.

Their outrage this morning is just laughable.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:39 AM
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97. How. Dare. You.
What bloody fucking filthy nerve to pretend that we don't care about the real issues. What utter swine you are all proving to be.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:26 PM
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120. You've really made 'obnoxious' an art form. Is it possible

for you to make a point without slurring and demeaning people? :thumbsdown:

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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:52 AM
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4. The O-Bots are finally getting a cold dash of reality this morning
The treatment with kid gloves by the media have now officially been dashed. Hard to believe that some of his supporters actually thought that this love affair was real, and that it'd carry him to the White House.

Yet another example of why Obama would be a poor choice for a nominee. It ain't too late to get him outta here, but we're pretty much at the 59th minute of the 11th hour here.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:54 AM
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7. The same media that spent a month on Wright and a week on bittergate?
That media that's been fair to Obama?
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:58 AM
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107. Those were the first rumblings, yes
And even that was pretty mild to an extent.

Now St. Obama is getting the full treatment that Clinton has been getting since January or so.

Well-deserved, if belated.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:57 AM
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76. I have said this all along.
He cannot withstand the pressure of a general. He's been so coddled, and has the resultant sense of entitlement, along with his followers. He wouldn't last two seconds under the kind of abuse that Hillary has been facing all along, and his followers wouldn't last two seconds as Clinton supporters.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:12 AM
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83. It alomst HAS carried him to the White House!
The outrage is that the MSM have given him a free pass up until last night! Treated Hillary as a villain and let him slide by all this time. THAT is the outrage!

All these Barack supporter's crying this morning and trying to act like they haven't been trashing Hillary all this time over NON issues! HA! What a freakin' joke!

Yeah, Cold dash of Reality right. And neither Barack or his supporter's know what to do with themselves today. Hillary and HER supporter's are USED to this kind of treatment! SHE was Presidential last night. Barack? Was LAME.

Let's just hope PA recognized that and votes accordingly.





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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:54 AM
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6. Obama supporters love when the media goes after Hillary.
Not so much when their "Prince" gets a few tough questions. Obama seemed visibly irritated that they dared to ask him hard questions. Not such a good quality for a President to have.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:05 AM
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16. He did didn't he...ANGRY Obama!
Very obvious...But Hillary...But Hillary ..BUT HILLARY!!! LQQK AT HILLARY...please don't ask me anymore questions....huh...
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guruant Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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35. Not true,
because a majority of Obama supporters I have talked to thought the MSNBC debate was bullshit too.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:25 AM
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42. Of course it was...
lol........... Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:37 AM
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95. George has it. And he got 8 years.
Oh, what fun this is not going to be.
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:13 AM
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109. And who else gets irritated when asked hard questions?
Bush? And how has that worked out for the country and the world?
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:56 AM
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10. Good To See You Got 1/3 Of Your Lame Daily Obama Slams Out Of The Way Early Today...
Idiot.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:58 AM
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12. In the original Cinderella, the stepsisters, sick with ambition to wear the
crystal slipper, mutilated their feet in hopes of making the slipper fit.

It didn't work.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:05 AM
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79. Prince Charming could not commit. His daddy had to tell him what to do.
Who is Obama's father figure?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:19 AM
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86. Actually, the male was just a rich guy with land.
All the definitional action for the narrative is centered on and evolves from the role of women in society.


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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:25 AM
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88. Rich guy with land. Like Axelrod?
I was drawing a like comparison to Obama as you were drawing to Hillary. Most fairy tales were written with subtle political inferences.

Obama last night was akin to the Princess and the Pea. :D
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:43 PM
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136. Sorry, the resonance isn't there. Every male doesn't equal Obama just
because Hillary is the object of focus.

Our high school English teachers told us that, even if we weren't listening.


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:05 AM
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15. Establishment press is trying to put away the establishment candidates competition
See Mathews on Colbert the other night. He thought the odds of Obama getting the nomination were 8-1 and that was before the "bitter" comment.

Hillary is a known quantity. Obama is not.

It is not just that Hillary has proved herself to be "loyal" what is important is that they have dirt on her. They have to real first-hand dirt on Obama so there is nothing to keep him in line. It's not about having "done work" for them it is about the threat of repercussions. Once they have the goods on you you necessarily are going to go along and not rock the boat.

That is how all mafias work.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:27 AM
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47. very interesting...
..
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:06 AM
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17. ABC News was mean to Prince Obama last night and to Princess Hillary
The losers in last nights debate was the American People....the winner was McCain....
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:10 AM
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25. na na na ...
Hillary clearly KICKED OBAMA"S ASS!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:26 AM
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46. funny
but I never hear Barack supporter's saying that when it's just Hillary under the gun. THEN it's wonderful! and "she is a WITCH! Burn her at the stake!!" So yeah, you're outrage over ABC and their handling of the debate and being "concerned" is less than convincing. sorry.

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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:06 AM
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18. Better call the wahmbulance!
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:07 AM by susankh4
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:08 AM
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23. HAH!
:toast:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:07 AM
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19. You should go back to posting stuff by Lyndon LaRouchites
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:09 AM
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24. tear. Another Obamacrat cry baby...
YOU LOST! BIG FAIL!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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34. huffing glue is like, bad ....hmkkkay?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM by dionysus
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:07 AM
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20. Barack got a tiny taste of what it's like for Hillary every day.
And he handled it badly!

The threads in DG P this morning are laughable! After the VICIOUS Right Wing style NON STOP attacks on Hillary here I'm supposed to give a flying flip! about Barack being asked questions he didn't like!?? omglol.

I am THRILLED how that debate went, THRILLED! Barack Obama and his supporter's wouldn't last a DAY in Hillary's shoes, not a single freakin' day!


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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:12 AM
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28. spot on!
well said!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:14 AM
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85. !
Thanks for the thread - it's the first I've chimed in, this was a great place to start in this sea of "outrage" this morning :toast:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:27 AM
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141. The Threads Are Always Laughable
nothings changed, it's back and forth - Prince Obama? If Hillary were ahead in this race you'd be screaming for Prince Obama to drop out and you know it. Bill Clinton would be the head cheerleader.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:18 AM
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31. Now it's time for another Special Ed thread!
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:20 AM by YOY


Indimuse: "Obama is bad!!! YEA!!!"
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:24 AM
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40. I see one of Obama Attack Hyeena's has made it to Obama pity party...waaahh
.... say it with me...Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:28 AM
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49. "Obama is bad! Yea!"
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:19 AM
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32. ya lost my at messiah chumpy... go polish your hillary statue...
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:20 AM
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33.  the american people lost....


if you could think rationally you would notice we all lost last night. no issues that effect millions of people in the usa were discussed in any meaningful way. it was one of the worse moments in television`s attempt to further political discussion in this country.

if you are satisfied about what ever that was last night then good luck...
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:23 AM
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39. Nice try!
Obama ,YOU and the rest of Obamacrats LOST! tear. Obama....BIG FAIL!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:33 AM
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56. interesting--obamacrats

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:37 AM
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62. It has NEVER been about ALL the people...you know this.
It has always been about THE Obama's! He even named his campaign in FL 'Generation Obama'...Like Generation X.. Now, that is self serving and is indicative of the man's huge EGO!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:43 AM
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98. Anything that doesn't suck up to Barry is a loss for the American people?
The whole concept of democracy and democratic process is lost on you fellas, ain't it?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:22 AM
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38. Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”
Summarize the debate in one sentence.

RD: “Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”

Summarize the debate in one sentence.

RD: “Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”



Phrase of the week!

snip

rise repeat!!!

Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”

Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”

Hillary Battles for Dem Nomination with Incoherent Token Male”
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:36 AM
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60. Deleted sub-thread
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:38 AM
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63. is that the on the new t-shirt?


they need to put out a obama`s "cry pillow"
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:26 AM
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43. Another one misses the bigger picture
Sadly ABC denied both of our candidates the opportunity to present their fastly better than McSame's ideas, views and plans for America. Sen. Clinton gave some very good answers and her supporters should be proud of her. They should also be outraged she got so little opportunity to shine like that, as they both did.

Yeah, it was a wonderful night for McSame, thanks to the corporate media. Forgive me for not joining the celebration.

Julie
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:41 AM
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68. do`t rain on their parade!
rational thinking people know we all lost...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:27 AM
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48. "Well boo-f%@king-hoo."
Best post ever in GD-P. :thumbsup:
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HousePainter Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:39 AM
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64. The issues
Ah Yes the important issues
Tuzla, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Flag Pins, the "bitter" remark

It's rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic,
fiddling while Rome burns.

I think I'll go with the candidate who kept asking what this nonsense had to do with putting food on the table and bringing down the price of gas.
That is Senator Barack Obama.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:40 AM
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67. Rezko...Did they bring up Rezko...I missed 10 mins in the beginning
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:42 AM
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69. "Issues"? If you care about "issues" how the hell can you support Him?
Elmer Gantry in $600 hand-made Italian loafers.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:11 AM
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82. hahahaha! Funniest comment I've read today!
Kudos to you!

Obama answers all your questions. Just ask his Magic 8-ball:

http://www.wlac.com/cc-common/hal/obama8ball/
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:56 AM
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75. how many post have the BO folk used up on the Bosnia thing.
yes, real important issues.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:31 AM
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52. its a FREAKING MELTDOWN BY MANY OBAMA FANS--OUTRAGED.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:30 AM
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89. Can you even BELIEVE how they're acting!???
They sure as hell weren't acting this way when Keith did a special comment about Hillary, using nothing but smears as his justification! Nooo, the MSM was grrreat then! But now the MSM has "hurt us" lol, riiiight! :evilgrin:
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:33 PM
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134. Of course
Some of us tied to warn them this would happen, but they didn't listen. They thought the honeymoon with the MSM would last forever.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:45 PM
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137. Barack is a great candidate
and may well win. But he need help not worship.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:31 AM
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53. Glad to see Hill supporters towing the freeper line. At least I know where you stand. eom
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:36 AM
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61. everyone get`s their day in the sun
it`s all in the sources
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:00 PM
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130. For democratic process every time.
Obama people? Not so much.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:39 PM
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135. As opposed to O supporters who have been towing that same line for months now?
Y'all are just reaping what you have sown. Deal with it.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:35 AM
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59. Wow, Obama gets asked direct questions...
and he blew it big time. Obama supporters need to accept it. It does not matter whether or not you think the questions were fair or not. He's been put up as a front runner for the democratic party, and he bombed. It was pathetic. He's not ready. Hillary put him to shame.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:32 AM
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91. YES!!!
She did! On top of Barack being a lame duck last night? HILLARY was Presidential! She always is! Always has been! She puts him to SHAME.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:37 AM
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94. Yes, indeed....
she puts him to SHAME!!!

Go Hillary!!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:44 AM
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99. !
:party: :toast:
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:44 AM
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100. ..
:woohoo:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:39 AM
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65. "Do you think Reverend Wright loves America as much as you?"
:rofl:

"but you do believe he is as patriotic as you are?"
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:45 AM
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72. And Obama did a great job showing how petty MSM is. Good job Obama.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:47 AM
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73. Who else loved the clip of the guy saying Clintons Bosnia Lie lost his vote?
LMFAO.. She stumbled all around that one and eventually said, she will try and get more sleep.. That was priceless. :headbang:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:54 AM
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74. She also said she was sorry. Mature people accept apologies and move on.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:50 AM
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103. Yeah, I'm positive he was all for her before that.
LOL!
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:59 AM
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77. It's too bad that you take so much pleasure in being ripped off by the media
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 AM by not_too_L8
that's right they ripped of the American people by focusing on wedge issues rather than the issues that are important to all Americans.

Even if you liked seeing Obama being put on the spot by Stephanopoulos playing Hannity you were still deprived of meaningful debate by the two presidential hopefuls

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igor2008 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:03 AM
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78. So why was Um-bama in the church with Wright for 20 years?
Can anyone even make up a plausible excuse?

Its over, either now or in the GE.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:10 AM
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108. Because he loves jesus.
I'm sure it is not the hate church MSM tries to make it.. They wont talk about the conversations in the church the other 99.99% of the time.
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:24 AM
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110. You are sure?
Have you tried to find out or do you just always accept the "Princes word for everything.

Guess what ? In Texas there was a compound where the residents always accepted the "leader's" word, it is called a cult.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:06 AM
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80. Lincoln-Douglas redux - last night was a proud moment in American history
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:11 AM
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81. You misspelled "President"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:13 AM
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:48 AM
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102. Bless my soul, sexism AND homophobia.
What a pretty package. Like looking at that portrait in your attic.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:55 AM
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106. Oh, don't you think the republicans will ask her about this? Shouldn't we be ready?
You know, "vet" her "association" with Huma before the GOP does on TV?

Sorry, just asking those questions you know they'll hit her with, just like she helpfully leveled for them against Obama last night.

We must be prepared, right?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:07 PM
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132. Go ahead.
I love that you think you're threatening her with some great big phallic stick.

Ain't you scared that our vagina dentata is gonna eat your great big stick? Now go plant it in some fertile ground and worship it till it bears fruit.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:38 AM
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96. Clinton supporters LOVE it when the media attacks Democrats.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:34 PM
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127. But when they (and you) attack Sen. Clinton, it's OKAY?
Because I've seen you applaud it.

Because she is NOT a Democrat? ONLY YOU ARE DEMOCRATS?

You don't even have a clue what it means. Obama supporters embody the essence of totalitarianism.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:50 AM
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104. Flame bait
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:51 AM
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105. K&R
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:26 AM
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111. K&R!
Best thread in days!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:26 AM
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112. I hope Clinton gets asked why she killed Vince Foster in the next debate.
You know, just to be fair.






(yes I know the whole Foster thing is BS, but so is the ayers thing.)
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:27 AM
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113. He finally got real questions instead of a lovefest and he bombed

Welcome to the real world. Think McCain is going to be easy?

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:33 AM
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114. "Leave Barack Alone!" video an overnight Interent sensation!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:40 PM
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122. He's a Change Agent!! lol.
I know I'm terrible, I blame the O Man's supporters.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:10 PM
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123. What a weak wittle man--don't pick on me. I willll cry!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:37 PM
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128. bwahhhhahaaaaa n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:39 PM
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121. Don't mean to jar you out of this denial fest, but
superdelegates for Obama since last weekend: here (1), here (1) and here (3).

Hillary's poll numbers are tanking.


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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:20 PM
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124. Pathetic. The MSM and OU have been pounding on

Hillary Clinton for months. The hysteria and outrage are laughable after all the hate-filled, and celebratory, MSM 'Hillary-hitjob' threads I've seen here. If you guys were honest, and NOT hypocrites, you would have been screaming about it then, too.




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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:17 PM
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126. lol! I love it.
The "outrage" is a JOKE - A BIG FAT JOKE. Yeah, he BOMBED last night but atleast Barack was standing there able to answer and defend himself; Ya' can't same the same for Senator Clinton when KeithO goes after her night after night AFTER NIGHT! And they just LOVE Keith!!






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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:09 PM
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133. Sadly, not anymore. Oh wait. You mean them. Yeah, they do.
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