I Am Fully Convinced After Last Night....This Election Is About Corporations Vs. The People.

[AllexxisF1]

We all have talked about this ongoing war between the American Middle Class vs. the Corporations for many years now and last night was clearly another shot across the bow from the Corporate GoodShip Lollipop.

I am convinced now more than ever that this election is about the Corporations strangle hold over this country vs US The People. With McCain, Hillary, the MSM and Corporations on one side and Obama on the other.

Last night was a picture perfect example of just how bad or worried they are of an Obama Presidency. A televised ambush of the worse sort that literally backfired on itself. Why? because the age of deception is peeling away. Americans en masse are not believing it anymore. Last night anyone with half a brain can see what had transpired, a direct assault on the candidate that is tied to no one being attacked by all who are.

Many Hillary supporters (our Fellow Democrats) have to understand that Barrack Obama is being completely bought out and funded by US, THE PEOPLE. That is a profound thing that has not happened for many decades and is a direct threat to those in power. Barack does not owe anything to anyone except US. We paid for him, we bought him out and as long as he does OUR BIDDING than we will continue to pay to keep him there. He does not need money from the oil companies, insurance companies, defense companies,...all the money he could ever need is from people who decide instead of going out to dinner decide to give that money to someone they trust to do their wishes.

For once a person can become President and do the will of the people without ever having to cater to the fat cats who have bought politicians since time and memorial. He can do what's right, be glorified and remembered for it, all the while knowing steadfast that THE PEOPLE have his back. What is going on is simply astounding in modern times, a true shift in the halls of power. Last nights faux debate showed that completely and utterly. It showed how scared they really are of our movement. They will stoop to nothing and they will do whatever they feel is necessary. Hillary has no mathematical chance of winning yet she simply is there to take him down because the people who paid for her campaign expect her to do that.


The main blessing of this election is not Barrack Obama but the internet and people like us behind it. Without the internet Obama would not have the funds (double of any candidate) to compete against those who are merely bought by big corporations. It is also the blessing of the internet that we can all can cut through the bullshit and expose lies for what they are, and more importantly expose the fake controversies.


I implore to all those here and especially to Hillary supporters that this is what the real election is about...Corporations vs Us and that Hillary is merely an agent for them, as is McCain, as is the MSM (with the exception of a few). Last night should have put the worst taste in the mouth of every American because it insulted our intelligence and more importantly our dignity.

It's time to fight back.

It's our time because We are the one's we have been waiting for.

We have bought our politician and he is going to be an extension of us.

[Upfront]

1. Well said.

K&R

[Orsino]

2. I don't think that the division is quite that clear...

...but the corporations certainly made clear their choice of the two corporatists.

[stellanoir]

3. This is a great line. . .

". . .clearly another shot across the bow from the Corporate GoodShip Lollipop. . . "

and all too true.

[myrna minx]

4. K&R n/t

[Triana]

5. Of course. It has been since the beginning. Thus, my fervent support for JRE

until he dropped out. He would have been a strong fighter for the people. But the corprat-owned media knew that and so either ignored or lambasted him so as to oust him from the list of candidates to choose from - and it worked. They're likely doing the same thing now, to Obama. He's not corporate-friendly enough, as Hillary is.

PeeEss: "The People" need to wise up to the media (and ALL corporations) and their tactics and the reasons behind them. Shut them off, and vote the principles and issues only - watch a lot more CSPAN and a lot less ABC, etc. - and make up their own minds. The media can't control our choices unless we LET them. And - we do - as a collective - we do - we allow corporations to own the entire process.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. Now all we have to do, is convince everyone else.

And the hardest ones to convince will be the property rights Libertarians, who don't realize that when they fight against EVERY city ordinance, they're just handing easy wins to development companies who continually enforce their rights over the will of the innocent homeowners. (As opposed to the complicit ones.)

[IsItJustMe]

7. K&R

Yes we can and yes we will.

[meow mix]

8. K&R

:patriot:

[QC]

The corporations have already won.

All three of the candidates still in the race are handmaidens of the corporate class. No matter which one wins, the people lose.

[uponit7771]

33. I don't see that honestly about Obama, not that he's perfect but his connections are a fraction of..

...Hillary's or McSames

[QC]

36. Wall Street adores him.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638

[Jackpine Radical]

77. Not in itself a bad thing---

The market generally goes up during Democratic administrations. Maybe some people on the Street have finally gotten a clue.

[BklnDem75]

37. If that's true...

Why is Hillary still running? They're all on the same side, right?

[QC]

41. Some people want power. Other people want to own those who have power. n/t

[rhett o rick]

45. They are well ahead but the ball game ain't over. People in some South American

countries have already rebelled against Bechtel and other corporate giants that have tried to gain a monopoly on their water. There will be a point when we will rebel.

[Lorien]

91. Sad but very true. n/t

[Stand and Fight]

94. Thank you.

Obama supporters seem to have forgotten that he AND Hillary were early on identified as the "corporate candidates."

[closeupready]

9. That's an insightful observation about Hillary's backers wanting her there not to win anymore, but

to take Obama down. I think there's some truth to that, frankly.

[shadowknows69]

10. I knew it all along

It's been obvious from the get go that the Republicans want to run against Hillary. Not only that they think they can beat her but If they don't I think she's acceptable to the "powers that be" as she is owned by so many corporate interests and the MIC.

[purji]

11. K&R n/t

[invictus]

12. K & R

[Flabbergasted]

13. Obama is beholden to the same interests. To believe otherwise is naive. nt

[closeupready]

16. Perhaps, but the extent to which he is beholden is FAR LESS than

the extent to which Hillary and McCain have sold out to those interests.

[uponit7771]

28. I think it's a fraction of that honestly, I don't see the direct corolation

[earth mom]

47. So it's okay to be just a bit corrupt? WTF?!

:wtf:

[closeupready]

57. Excuse me. We have three choices. Although we on DU have two.

What do you want from me?

[cali]

59. god, i hate simplistic manichean crap

look, taking lobbyist money does not de facto mean that a politician is corrupt. Bernie Sanders takes lobbyist money. Does he cave to industry? Do you consider him corrupt?

http://www.opencongress.org/people/show/400357_bernard_sanders

[DerekJ]

50. Well, of course!! Business if the backbone of any country.. When you elevate the interest of

business over the interest of the country, and middle class citizens, you then have problem. Obama most likely won't do that.
Why?! Because he owes them zilch.

[crankychatter]

14. Concur 100% - When Net Neutrality Goes, there won't be another chance

quite possibly

This is it... Obama may be a mildly progressive centrist... a reasonable, coalition building, sort of guy...

but THIS IS a Revolution, and we have to think of it as such.

[Bensthename]

15. MSM makes tons of money by keeping the polls tight and race going.

The longer this goes on the more millions they make.. They don't care about us. They have stock holders and profits to make. And huge mansions and cars to keep up. Very sad.

[TragedyandHope]

17. Let's be honest, Obama is not an anti-corporate candidate

If he was, he wouldn't be a serious contender in the race, let alone the overwhelming favorite to be our next POTUS.

Last night was a travesty of a certain network trying to force their will into reality, but it back-fired. That said, let's not fool ourselves into thinking Obama doesn't have friends in high places.

I believe Obama has honest intentions and will do his best as President to make things better for everyone in this country, but he isn't an anti-corporate crusader.

[Bonobo]

20. You missed the point. It isn't about Obama. It is about us and OUR movement.

We made Obama.

[TragedyandHope]

23. I agree 100% with you on that, but I don't believe in magic

[Bonobo]

29. There is nothing magical about it.

[TragedyandHope]

35. In other words

I think even with the best intentions Obama will be hard pressed to accomplish even a fraction of what we as his supporters would have him do. I think he will make incremental progress in the right direction, but his arms will be tied by the entrenched system in Washington and the economic power and political influence wielded by the corporations. Not to mention, having to deal with the inherited disaster from the aftermath of 8 years of Bush.

I'm proud to be a part of this historic movement, but I have very modest expectations and real doubts about the true extent our influence.

I would love to be proved wrong.

I fully expect Obama to be our next President, but that alone won't convince me. I have an open mind, but my experience has led me to be a pessimist and a realist.

[Bonobo]

44. I hear you. Normally I would agree 100%

But consider this:

-The country shifted so radically in the last 7 years. With an idiot at the helm. No one expected it.

-Every action creates an equal and opposite reaction.

-There is a big swing coming. We've given Obama a huge cudgel. If he wins, it will be an unprecedented mandate from the people.

He'll use it. He's very good.

[uponit7771]

30. No candidate can be far removed from the stench of corporations because ANYONE can contribute to a..

...campaign.

The candidates don't have control over that

[Swamp Rat]

18. k&r

[Bonobo]

19. Perfect. Absolutely perfect post. Right on. K&R x 1,000,000!

[uponit7771]

21. I place a LOT more blame for this stupid ass'd war on the media after last night. They HAVE NOT...

...changed the mindset that got us into that war.

[anonymous171]

22. What's Clinton's stance on Media Deregulation?

[uponit7771]

25. What ever Rove wants...I'm sooooo disappointed in her.

[Imagevision]

24. This Election Is About Corporations Vs. The People? -> (as usual?)

[PA Democrat]

26. Noticeably absent: any questions about corporate greed and malfeasance

Subprime mortgage crisis and the deregulation of the banking industry? Oil company profits? Insurance company practices that exclude people from the health care system? Pharmaceutical industry's price gouging? Obscene CEO pay?

ABC knows who their masters are.

[uponit7771]

31. StephADickLess and Grubson might like getting whipped every now and then

[Emillereid]

27. My thoughts exactly - I got up this morning livid that the powers that be are in

a frenzy with the realization that the "black guy, who doesn't need corporate money" might actually win. They will pull out all stops to bring him down. ABC was only the front for what I believe is a much larger effort to stop him.

We must re-double our efforts and fight back. GIVE ALL THE TIME AND MONEY YOU CAN! IT'S TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

[Stand and Fight]

95. For the love of God, this is not a race issue.

Get a damn grip. I'm black and I don't see things that way. He's the front-runner now. Front runners always get attacked. Sheesh. What the hell...

[redqueen]

32. Yup. Clinton joining in with the VRWC should tell us all we need to know.

[backscatter712]

34. K&R!!!

The fascist spell we've been under is unraveling!

It used to be that the media could pull a stunt like this, and hardly anyone would say anything, or even notice.

Now look what's happening. Obama's proven to be the fascist's worst nightmare - a candidate with mainstream appeal, with a lot of charisma, with intelligence, who talks to the people like adults instead of slinging slogans and placations, who has shown he intends to work for the people rather than the corporatists and the authoritarian right.

The people have embraced him because they're waking up - they realize their country has been taken by tyrants and thieves and robber barons, and they want their country BACK. And the old tactics of wedge-issue division and propaganda and bread and circuses aren't working anymore.

The real bigwigs - oil executives, other corporate executives, along with Bush, Cheney and the entire pack of cronies, are not just looking at losing power, they're looking at PRISON! They're looking at losing EVERYTHING! They know that Obama is a man who believes in the Constitution, who in fact taught Constitutional law, who works for the people, and will bring back core governmental concepts like separation of powers, checks and balances, and rule of law. And when that happens, justice will come for them.

They're scared shitless, and the stunt by ABC last night shows how desperate and how scared they are.

Watch your back, Obama, and watch your backs, Democrats. These thugs think nothing about committing acts of murder to gain political power. The next stunt the fascists may pull may be a violent one...

[Armstead]

38. Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall St.

To be fair, Wall St. has invested in Obama too.

But Obama is much more of a break from the Oligarchs than Hillary.

She will sell us out easily if she is ever elected.

[backscatter712]

48. Wall Street may have tried to invest in Obama.

But Wall Street got outbid - by US!!!

We're the ones who've given the most to Obama's campaign, and I don't think Obama would have it any other way. He's not the kind that would let himself be bought.

[NorthCarolina]

39. K&R n/t

[Fresh_Start]

40. Edwards supporters have believed that all along

but the remaining candidates are both firmly supported by big money corporations

[Stand and Fight]

96. Thank you for saying it.

These folks are so out of touch with reality that I'm amazed. I may now be supporting Hillary, but I'm ever aware of the fact that both she, Obama, and McCain are the corporate choice. Let's not forget that Edwards was the favorite on this once united and progressive board. Now most of DU has settled for one of two corporatist. But let's at least be honest and call them as we see them.

[Mme. Defarge]

42. You nailed it -- great post!

I believe that this is a battle of good v. evil of mythic proportions. The tables of the money changers have been overturned in the temple, and NOTHING could be more threatening to the status quo. As such, these are very dangerous times for all stake-holders.

As I have said before in this forum, Obama is a genuine threat to the corporate over-class; Hillary was their ace in the hole, their way of stacking the deck in their favor. Because of this, I could never vote for Hillary. If the "choice" is between two corporate sell-outs, I must refuse to rubber-stamp a one party system, even if one of them MIGHT, if (s)elected, throw us a few crumbs.

We are still citizens, not subjects -- let us not be blackmailed. :patriot:

[Bonobo]

43. kick

[rhett o rick]

46. BINGO. you nailed it. and We are mad as hell and aint goin take it anymore. k&r nm

[earth mom]

49. Are you kidding me? Obama is a corporatist too! Wake up and smell the corruption!

There is NO-REPEAT NO-difference between the 3 candidates.

They ALL serve their corporate masters.

Jeez-It is ever more clear that people around DU are in deep denial. :puke:

[AllexxisF1]

51. If...Obama has little over 1% of corporate..

If Obama has little over 1% of corporate contributions compared to the overwhelming amount provided by people like us ....how in the world is he a corporate lackey.


I started this thread because I honestly believe a shift has taken place. Obama does not owe anyone but us ...THE PEOPLE. To add to that I believe his charisma will wash over the established people on the hill that if they work with him they will be helped by US too, without the need of corporate money.

This is our chance, whether slim or not ...it is our best chance.

[earth mom]

55. Obama is NOT John Edwards. Obama has stolen Edwards platform while taking corporate money.

While Edwards took NO corporate money.

Don't fool yourself, Obama is playing both sides. :puke:

p.s. Charisma? :wtf:

[guyanakoolaid]

61. Yeah, playing both sides while denying a single PAC or lobbyist dollar.

:eyes:

Edwards was more than eager during the debates to frame both he and Obama and the candidates of change while rightly labeling Hillary the corporate wh-, uhm money-grabber that she is.

It's more than a little disingenuous to label all contributions of individuals who work for a corporation a "corporate" donation, too.

Who has taken more lobbyist money than any other candidate of either party? Hillary.

[Stand and Fight]

98. Get real already!

Barack Obama is no less guilty because he has taken less money than Hillary from the corporations. Let's not forget that he only STOPPED taking money from them upon deciding to run for president. He's playing both sides -- just like they all are. It's politics and it's ugly and nasty. However, for now it is the way the game is played.

[Stand and Fight]

97. Take them to task!

This board has really gone off the deep end in its abysmal failure to call a spade a spade. They're so taken up with this immature idea that someone is going to "save us" that they're failing to see the fucking forest for the trees.

[earth mom]

100. Couldn't have said it better myself.

:hi:

[chknltl]

63. I tend to agree strongly with the OP but I am open minded.

I say this because I am under the impression that the Military Industrial Complex would be happier with McCain and perhaps close to equally happy with Clinton and have no interest in Obama whatever.

Can you perhaps back up this assertion that there is 'NO-REPEAT NO' difference between the three candidates 'corporate masters'? Again, I am open minded enough to be willing to entertain your assertion but I would like to see your evidence, could you direct me to links or present me with data that may sway my thinking?

I am in agreement with the OP because I feel that We The People perceive Obama as a pendulum swing back toward democracy and away from business as usual. Corporatism or unrestricted capitalism is the particular demon which is biting us. We The People feel the biting in our collective wallets but I don't think that the electorate is aware that this is the actual demon doing the biting....they just want it stopped.

I think We The People perceive McCain as more business as usual, his corporate tax cut proposals CLEARLY demonstrate this although again, I doubt the masses within the electorate understand how this further feeds the demon!

I think that We The People may perceive Clinton similarly because she uses, (since falling behind), campaign tactics that bear a strong resemblance to what the neo-cons would use. The fact that We The People are strongly wanting change and not more business as usual has caused, by and large, a turn-off towards Clinton within the electorate.

So far Obama has not presented the face of BUSINESS AS USUAL to the electorate, he runs on the promise of CHANGE. That particular combination has made him the champion of We The People and keeps him there. Fueled by all the new voter turn-out (who also want change from business as usual), Obama surges ahead of the pack and will likely be our President.

So if you would be so kind, would you show us what it is that we do not see...whatever it is Obama is hiding from the electorate...those very things that make him the same corporate lackey that McCain truly is and Clinton may be as well? Will you show us how Obama will be more beholding to those corporate masters than to We The People and will be this way equally to McCain or Clinton? Here is your chance to change DU opinion, to prove that America's democracy is indeed DEAD and that We The People cling to a false HOPE.

I swear, no flames here from this Obama supporter, I am being open-minded with this request but I won't hide my skepticism either.

[ecstatic]

52. Did you notice how the cameras cut to the big whigs during the capital gains tax

question? They looked uncomfortable. :shrug:

[Cha]

53. Welcome to Enlightment...I've been

convinced as of the last 8 years and it's not going away.

As I've had in my "comment" it's the mediawhores we have to bring down..without them there would be no bush or the War on Iraq.

[butterfly77]

54. And this is what many can't see...

they are stuck on the same old game that the republiCONS play every election cycle they have really been choosing our candidates due to the ill informed...

[Daphne08]

56. Exactly! n/t

[Lilith Velkor]

58. Oh my

Looks like a lot of people are in for a nasty shock.

[donheld]

60. That is very much what this election is about

[Tribetime]

62. your 100% right

I was wondering when they were going to start this shit. We have to stand up and say NOT THIS FUCKING TIME...K&R

[chknltl]

64. Until shown otherwise, I agree with you Alexxis F1.

I hate recommending a thread just as I start looking through the DU threads but in this case you have written something I feel is VERY important. You have had a couple of detractors to your assertion but by and large it appears to me that quite a few of our fellow DUers are in agreement with you, as am I. Thank you for this piece, it made me think. RECOMMENDED

[AllexxisF1]

67. Thank you very much :-).

I truly believe that we are at a crossroads in this country. We have found our chance and in that chance we have found that those in power no longer have the luxury of 10 second snip bits that overwhelm the majority. The internet and especially You Tube has changed that. We changed that.

The right wing and the corporations can own the radio waves and the tv channels but they cannot silence the multitudes online.

I am a Network Administrator by trade and I am incredibly humbled knowing that my profession makes an impact that can possibly save our country and this world.


We must let people know and especially Obama himself that he is there because of us, paid for by us, championed because of us to do the work we expect him to do for us.


Hillary supporters I beg you to see this fight for what it really is. Last night should have been an eye opener and be laid bare that Corporations are truly frightened.

[chknltl]

76. and again my agreements.

Obama IS where he is because of us. Perhaps he needs a reminder of this, perhaps no. I sense in him something quite special. I sense in him the very change American democracy needs if it is to survive it's out of control capitalists. (I am NOT against capitalism, but I do believe it MUST be controlled lest it destroy the democracy it operates within). True democracy is the the will of the majority, sadly capitalism has usurped this in America through the buying off of our representatives. They will try to do the same with Obama, (some, I hear already have), but just perhaps in Obama, We The People may have gotten to him before he has become as corrupted by their $$ as his challengers have. I have a request in to one of the naysayers in this thread to show me where I am in error regarding this...but I shall not be holding my breath.

It would be nice if the Clinton supporters would look to the bigger picture regarding this. Her campaign IS causing damage to Obama at this point. Also, as Rachel Maddow points out: Each day that the fight between Clinton and Obama goes on is a free pass for McCain and adds to his chances for beating Obama. Seeing McCain in the White House is utterly NOT an option, seeing another corporatist tool in the White House is only slightly better than McCain imo. Seeing someone who has so few corporate attachments AND has so much of the hopes of an uncynical electorate pinned to him...well that fills me with a great deal of HOPE at any rate.

[1trackmindGOP]

65. Exactly and that is why we MUST Win!

They will smear, lie, and drum up scandals, we must stick to our guns and better sense and vote for ourselves this time...let us not get swift boated again! Yes WE can!

[brindis_desala]

66. Now That's the Truth. You GET it!

[barack the house]

68. Someone said they can't shut the net down too as we can rewire it as it is just digital noise.

[TML]

69. Kick

[aquart]

70. Because Hillary supporters are NOT people?

You really have some fucking nerve.

[FrenchieCat]

71. That's right.....we can win this, but it will take each and everyone of us......

no sitting on laurels thinking everyone else is doing the hard work. We all must do it!

[McCamy Taylor]

72. You just now noticed? You didnt see anything wrong with what they did to Edwards?

Or Kerry? Or Gore?

[McCamy Taylor]

73. Obama takes millions from lobbyists---in states--but these are national companies

He just makes sure they funnel it through their state offices so that he can pretend he does not get it through a DC office. AT&T can send money to Sacramento to send it to Obama. They know how to wire money. It is real easy.

Wise up. Obama and Hillary are both corporate candidates. I have been telling you for months that they MSM would come for Obama last after Edwards and Hillary because he is the designated McGovern this election---as in the RNC intends him to lose.

[tbyg52]

74. IT'S THE CORPORATIONS, STUPID! You hit the nail on the head. nt

[nichomachus]

75. The new president's first day

there is a comedian who did a rant -- maybe someone has seen it, but I can't remember his name -- and it went along the lines of:

On a new president's first full day in office, a couple of men in black suits come into the oval office and take him to a small room in the basement of the White House. There, they show him the films of what really happened to JFK, RFK and MLK. Then, they ask "Any questions?" He doesn't have any questions. And they say, "Good, then you'll do what you're told."

[Bongo Prophet]

86. That was the late, great, Bill Hicks. n/t

[Stand and Fight]

99. Shit. May be comedy, but it has a strange "ring of truth" to it.

Bill Hicks, eh? I'll have to research this.

[windoe]

78. Nearly a cartoon caricature of a debate~

It actually would have looked better as a cartoon---"Hahahahaha, now for the REAL debate folks!!"
I am in total awe that the corporate media has grown so crass, overconfident and---the real clincher was to watch that debacle with the backdrop of
"We The People..." in the background.....ooooooooooh the nerve of them!!! How dare they insult us in this way! I feel like I have been slapped.

[omega minimo]

79. if anyone can post here proof that Obama doesn't have similar relationships I'd love to know it

:patriot:

[windoe]

80. Obama seems to have the least amount of corporate

ties, Ms. Clinton is very well connected, and McCain unquestioningly has the most. I would be surprised if any politician lacked corporate connections of any kind, they are rare animals indeed. Kucinich was one of them I believe.

[NashVegas]

81. If Corporations Believed An Obama Presidency Would Be Hostile To Their Interests, He Wouldn't

Stand a chance.

[BeHereNow]

83. Which is why he is the straw man in this election cycle...

Just as Wes Clark was in the last one.
Gee, what ever happened to old Wes anyway?
My guess is that he was rewarded with a nice CEO position
in yet another corporate multi national.

BHN

[BeHereNow]

84. Sure enough! Viaspace!

http://www.freshnews.com/news/defense-west/article_30671.html

Yet another military defense company!

Wanna stock tip?
Invest in this one.

BHN

[Lorien]

92. Very true. Ultimately, they decide on the candidates

Here on DU Gore was the one until he made it clear that he wasn't running. Then Kucinich was "The one", when he dropped out it was Edwards....this was also the trend among Dems nationally, yet look at what we are left with?

[windoe]

82. Bottom line

-they have to toe the line, but they do have a certain amount of power and influence. For me it boils down to trust and character under duress. I have to keep reminding myself that we are actually a fascist state, according to the laws now on the books, and it is yet to be seen how the next president will handle these draconian laws. McCain would run with it, no doubt.

[Downtown Hound]

85. Damn straight! K&R!

[mahina]

87. True words.

[ClassWarrior]

88. More than anything, Obama represents OUR OPPORTUNITY...

...to take our nation back.

CUNY Professor Frances Fox Piven on a recent Democracy Now!:

You know, in 1932, FDR didn’t run with a good program; he ran with the same program the Democrats had run with in 1924 and 1928, and that wasn’t a good program. But nevertheless, his rhetoric encouraged people who were suffering as a result of the Depression—working people, the unemployed—and helped to fuel the movements, which then forced FDR to support initiatives which he otherwise would not have supported, including the right to organize...

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/6/super_tuesday_roundtable_with_bill_fletcher

NGU.

[Yes We Did]

89. Obama is the People's candidate... Clinton is the corporation's candidate. Wake up, people!

Look at all the people you see her with...Establishment types. Old money. Corporate money. Bundled money. Oil money. Republican money.

Obama's campaign is funded by the people. Some of these people may work for corporations but they understand that they can't sit at the table just because they donate because it's not pac money, fee money.

The firm that handles Clinton's campaign handles John McCain's campaign. The Established Dem and the Republican are working together no matter what they say. They want to get rid of the PRO-People candidate because he will change Washington forever. He will be there for 8 years. If you are for people powered politics and you believe in the "We" in the U.S. then drop Clinton because she will keep Washington as is while only bringing the deficit down and as for her Universal Healthcare proposal... it's a rouse. If you take pac money from lobbyists in the Medical industry then they will have a seat at the table and they will always make sure they are well taken care of.

When are people going to get this!

[lutefisk]

90. Well said. Obama is forcing the corporate interests to expose themselves

It was supposed to be all over in February, but Obama messed up the plan.

Now, the various corporate interests, especially the corporate media, are forced to fight out in the open to protect their interests and destroy the threat (Obama). It's ugly, but good, to see them out in the open.

[Stand and Fight]

93. I was in agreement with you until you said Obama on the other side.

No, he's on the same side with McCain, Hillary, the corporations and the media.

The one candidate that was truly for the working class was on Colbert tonight and he's "suspended" his campaign. If we're going to fight back, we need someone who has taken them on and is willing to continue to take them on no matter what. That man is John Edwards. Not Barack Obama. Not Hillary Clinton. And certainly not John McCain.