***National and PA Media is NOT taking the debate seriously*** Headlines and Links....

[truthpusher]

"Worst. Debate. Ever?" Salon.com
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/04/17/debate/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room

"Analysis: Debate Focused on Candidates' Gaffes" NPR
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89713246

"On Debate, ABC Gets A “D”?" Columbia Journalism Review
http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/on_debate_abc_gets_a_d.php

"A 'reality show' minus the reality" Bucks County Courier Times
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-04172008-1520593.html

"Analysis: Debate probably not a ‘game-changer’" The Scranton Times-Tribune
http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19492170&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=415898&rfi=6

"John Baer: We're still on the lapel thing? Seriously?" Philadelphia Daily News
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/john_baer/20080417_John_Baer__We_re_still_on_the_lapel_thing__Seriously_.html

"In Pa. Debate, The Clear Loser Is ABC" Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041700013.html

"Democratic debate dwells on Barack Obama's past" Los Angeles Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-debate17apr17,1,2935599.story?track=rss

"The Dems Play Trivial Pursuit" Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1731655,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

"Area voters frustrated by debate" Altoona Mirror
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/506594.html

"“The Most Startlingly Tabloid Debate” Yet" Columbia Journalism Review
http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/the_most_startlingly_tabloid_d.php

[NJmaverick]

1. That pretty much sums it up

I hope ABC suffers consequences for what they did.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. Sham of Journalism....

Thanks for the link

[IsItJustMe]

3. It was what it was. A straight up sham. Sad, but true, never-the-less.

[SoonerPride]

4. I don't care if ABC fires Gibson or Snuffleupagus, I already fired them by not watching them anymore

I deleted "This Week with Snuffleupagus" from my TiVo Weekly Pass and won't be watching the Disney channel anymore.

[DUyellow]

6. Why would they fire them?

[SoonerPride]

11. Because they are incompetent

Anyone who asks about fucking flag lapel pins when there are two wars going on, gas prices skyrocketing, the dollar plummetting, the Constitution in shreds, a nationwide mortgage crisis that threatens to topple Wall Street, America endorsing torture, most Americans without adequate nor affordable healthcare, and our education system continuing to fall behind the rest of the developed world SHOULD be fucking fired for gross incompetence.

Fired on the spot.

THERE ARE REAL FUCKING ISSUES, SNUFFLEUPAGUS, AND FUCKING FLAG LAPEL PINS AINT ONE OF THEM.

[DUyellow]

13. ABC knew what the questions were going to be.

[SoonerPride]

14. You are probably right. Thus, I fired them and will no longer watch them.

Just as I don't patronize Faux I will no longer watch ABC.

[truthpusher]

33. i wouldnt be surprised if somebody else knew too.

[0007]

21. Yeah! Why would they fire them? After all they are part of the looney toons

[ginnyinWI]

10. I've removed "ABC World News" from my DVR timer.

I guess I'll go back to NBC for a while. I do like to get the network news take. I'll consider CBS if/when they get rid of Katie. I also watch Keith, and my new fav, "BBC World News America" every day.

[SoonerPride]

12. BBC World is refreshingly REAL, isn't it?

I don't watch any network news.

But I am an addict of the sunday talkingheadocracy, but I'm done with This Week with Snuffleupagus.

[ginnyinWI]

31. network news has health bulletins and stuff--

I sure don't go there for politics. But sometimes they come out with news about consumer products, what chemicals are in what plastics, what drug is gonna kill us, etc. So I watch for that. I could probably get most of it from the newspaper though.

[CreekDog]

34. and John Stossel

no wait...:dilemma:

[truthpusher]

30. George was unbelievable

[olkaz]

5. Required reading material for Ed Rendell

Who said immediately after on AA Radio "Clout" that Hillary "clearly won". Doesn't make much sense to call anybody a winner if the game was not worth playing.

It's so close to being over.

[City Lights]

7. A big ol' K&R.

Thanks for putting this together.

_ABC is dead to me, and has been (with a few exceptions :spank:) since they aired the path to nine one one.

[Eurobabe]

8. Watching it now, what a fucking joke. Issues? What issues?

The flag lapel is of the utmost importance. We can't have a leader who doesn't wear one.

Give me a god damn break.

ABC, you are horrible, Charlie Gibson and George Stephanoplous should be ashamed of themselves as hosts.

[mckeown1128]

9. This sums it up nicely:

[truthpusher]

37. wonder if SNL will have the nuts to spoof this....

[TwilightGardener]

15. This primary season needs to fucking end. We've hit all the high points

and squeezed out maximum interest and publicity for the Democratic party by now--it's all low points and the law of diminishing returns from here on out, when campaigns and debates become this farcical.

[truthpusher]

41. but hill and bill are so looking forward to the low points...

Otherwise they would end this now.

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. this seems to be a concensus..people on the radio this a.m. appear to

agree that George & Charlie would be best suited to hosting shows like Inside Edition or TMZ. I confess, I didn't watch the debates, because I don't watch or support ABC/Disney. But from the reviews, and clips I've seen, I already knew what to expect. Thanks for posting.....

[Summer93]

17. The Winner is ABC

It played out as they (ABC) wanted it. They "created a new reality" by using this "debate" to make both candidates look silly and inconsequential before the tv world. That we in the internet world rise to blame them (ABC) just cements what they accomplished. They must be slapping each others backs today and saying what a great job it was. To use the Democratic candidates to make them look like less than they actually are is a triumph to them.

[Adelante]

18. For your list

“Clinton-Obama Debate: ABC Decides Top Issues Facing Americans Are Gaffes, Flag Pins and ’60s Radicals” Editor & Publisher
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003790556

[0007]

19. How could anyone with a lick of sense take this debate seriously?

It wasn't a debate at all, it was a hit job set up by Hannity and the girls.

[grantcart]

20. Its a disaster for Clinton because it was so obviously unfair

the sympathy will go to Obama and she can't really crow about it without looking churlish.

[CreekDog]

35. it doesn't help her because lack of substance doesn't give her an opening

to explain her positives.

[SOS]

22. We're being framed by the Wall Street-owned media (again)

They want their capital gains taxed at 0% not 20%.

Here are our framed choices for 2008:

1. A nasty liar
2. A black militant
3. A kindly American hero.

Just doing their job.

[futureliveshere]

23. Wow thanks.. This is so uplifting. Looks like we are moving away from the sensationalism era. K&R

[truthpusher]

24. .

[meow mix]

25. K&R

[ORDem]

26. K

:kick:

[WA98296]

27. Journalism....What Journalism....There was NONE last night. Thanks for the links.

[truthpusher]

28. .

[Coexist]

29. knr

thanks for the compilation

[Scurrilous]

32. K & R

:thumbsup:

[quantass]

36. and for good reason

[donheld]

38. K & R

[stephinrome]

39. just sent this list to ABC

thanks for putting it together.

[catgirl]

40. K & R

[grantcart]

42. Fox was giving it an A plus yesterday

unfortunately I couldn't get the guys direct quote as I had to rush to the hospital to get the fork taken out of my eye.

[liberaldem4ever]

43. kick

:kick:

[grantcart]

44. Hillary goes on local Fox affiliate says that ABC debate no different

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/18/clinton-%e2%80%9cwhen-the-going-gets-tough-you-can%e2%80%99t-run-away%e2%80%9d/