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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM
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I would like to thank all my Democratic comrades for President John McCain
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:50 AM by kentuck
Yes, both candidates want to be President. Why couldn't Obama have left his ambition and his ego behind and let Hillary have the Presidency that many seem to assume she is entitled to? And why couldn't Hillary have dropped gracefully out of the race when it became obvious that she could not win the majority of the pledged delegates? It could have been different.

It was not necessary to tear down the other candidate's character. It could have been more civil. It could have been a fair debate. But, old politicians know that you do not win political races by being nice. You win by stomping in the face of your opponent when he/she is down. But, that should only apply in the general election, they say. Not in the primaries of the same Party and interests.

It has now reached the point of no return. The pundits says Obama does not have the knockout punch. He lacks the killer instinct. He could have severely wounded Hillary several times. But he chose otherwise. He thought he would need her supporters in the general election. He thought it best for the Party not to get in any knock-down drag-out battles. But he must be re-evaluating his strategy today?

Hillary never considered whether or not she would need the Obama supporters in the general election. She was behind and she went for his throat. She took the side of the Republican as being more ready to be Commander in Chief. She wanted to win. The future would take care of itself. In the end, all the Democrats would unite behind her. And that is where she needs to re-evaluate her strategy.

Hillary cannot win. She has alienated too many Democrats, not just the black Democrats, and they will not support her if she is the nominee. They will not vote for John McCain. They simply will not vote. That is what Hillary and her supporters have won. And they cannot possibly win the election without Obama supporters. She is a divisive politician with a track record. Thanks to all my comrades for President John McCain.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:48 AM
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1. If Hillary was unelectable before, she is even more so now. She has downright infuriated
the progressive base. If she wins, expect a large turnout for Nader.
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InfiniteNether Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:51 AM
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2. Maybe she doesn't care if she wins? Maybe the whole goal is simply to destroy
the Progressive Movement?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:51 AM
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3. I disagree. Once we can cut the negative influence out of this
situation, Obama can concentrate on McCain. I think it won't be too hard to show the drastic differences between the two. I expect a blowout in November, and not for McCain, providing the fear factor isn't involved.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:14 AM
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4. But the negative influence cannot be cut out of this....
So long as Hillary is in the race. There is no gracious exit. She must be defeated. Knocked out.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:22 AM
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5. I agree with that, and think it will happen soon.
Yea, I'm an optimist. If she won't eventually get out, I think cooler Dem heads will prevail and she'll get a talking to. I just don't see her winning PA by all that much; I guess we'll see.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:33 AM
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9. I agree. If the Dems can't win this one theyy should look for other work.
Virtually all the multitude of troubles in the country can, and will be, laid at the door of the Republicans. Bush has become one of the most disliked presidents in the history of the republic and the republican congress is littered with scandals and a history of working against the people in a time of economic crisis.

As I see it, the differences between two moderate Dems on the issues are minuscule so they've resorted to childish mudslinging, to the delight of the media, to win the edge.

They should both be told to go to their rooms.

As for me, I've pretty much tuned out of the whole mess until November.

"Getting into politics is like stepping in dogshit." - From "The Motorcycle Diaries"
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:23 AM
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6. I understand the drama
but I don't share it.

I'm glad Obama doesn't have the killer instinct regarding Hillary, or other Democratic contenders. If he did, he'd be less himself, and more like Clinton.

And that's one of the primary difference between the two that I cling to :)
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:26 AM
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7. BO supporters have gone after women supporters of Hillarys
I don't think he has a chance in the world of getting them back and he can not win.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:31 AM
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8. Obama came off as a grifter - paper thin and unsubstantial

So thanks to Senator Obama for giving the Presidency to the Republicans.

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