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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:50 AM
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sobriety
At what point does a social drinker become a heavy drinker? At what point does a heavy drinker become an alcoholic? Some would answer 'when your drinking becomes more important than things you used to find more important' or something like that.

"Honey, wanna take your daughter to the park?" my wife would ask.

"No, I think I'll just stay here with my bottle of tequila."

Like many addicts, I realized several months back I had a problem. And because I've always been disciplined, I was able to quit cold turkey. A complete cut-off. I'm talking about uncorking the bottles and pouring them down the drain.

What was my drink of choice? Democratic Underground. Or, rather, online politics in general. I spent a lot of time on it. And other things suffered because of it. Other than finding myself doing one more browser refresh before bedtime just to check if anyone else had replied to my posts (which often resulted in staying up one more hour... or two... and missing putting my little girl to bed), my 'real world' political activity was suffering also. I wasn't devoting as much time to meetings and planning and strategy. While I was arguing the merits of Democratic presidential candidates who are virtual twins ideologically, it was looking like Republican Rep. Tom Price was going to run for re-election unopposed, or with very weak opposition.

See, Georgia's 6th Congressional District where I live is a tough place to be a Democrat. The Washington Post once described it as "the Great White North, a Republican pollster’s dream, a sprawl of affluent suburbs as far as the eye can see, a Lexus in every driveway and a Lean Cuisine in every microwave." This was Newt Gingrich's district and it's where Democrats have fought and died. I've seen many Democrats of every imaginable stripe - liberal, conservative, and all points in between - lose elections in these parts. In fact, it's hard to remember the last time a Democrat won a race of importance here. A city council race or two, maybe.

So one day I just quit posting on DU. I quit hitting all my bookmarked blogs and sites. I even quit posting on my blog. And suddenly I had a lot of free time. And with that free time, I built a new website for the Democratic organization I'm vice-chair of. I helped plan upcoming fund raisers and canvassing and candidate recruitment - things I used to do in years past but had lost interest in lately or just didn't have the time for.

And my outlook slowly evolved. A few months ago I was saying I opposed John McCain but wouldn't be too terribly uncomfortable with him as President if he won. Now when asked about him I say, "No way, no how! Why would we want to replace George Bush's administration with someone from the party that spawned him?"

When I'm asked who I support for the Democratic nominee, I reply "We win either way." And I mean it. Sure, I still prefer Sen. Clinton but not enough to even consider sitting out this election if she doesn't win the nomination. In fact, I would be proud to have Senator Obama as my President. It's important to have passion but even more important to channel it in a productive direction. I have friends, Democrats, who've never given DU (or KOS or any community site) one unique hit. Yet they're volunteering at the state party headquarters and registering people to vote at local retirement homes. The Democratic nomination will not be won or lost on Democratic Underground or DailyKOS or any blog/website. The General election won't be, either.

So, you might be asking if I'm hitting the bottle again. The answer is yes... but only moderately so. I may just set it down right here for another few weeks.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:51 AM
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1. k and r
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:53 AM
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2. I have cut way back. I'm sick of the politics.
Just can't stand to listen to any more.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:56 AM
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3. I tuned out fro boredom for a while....But now Hillary makes me so mad I'm reenergized
The campaign was turning into the political equivalent of the Maiginot Line of WW 1 for a while.

Bit with Hillary in full scorched earth mode, I have a renewed passion in the primaries....Alas, though, the negative reasons for it are lamentable.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:02 AM
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4. networks, links, information, spin... vehicle of self expression RE issues and attitudes
DU has value... I especially value the ignore feature

Hail to your new found piety and self constraint

If I took myself as seriously as some of ya'all... I'd probably be having crises of conscience as well

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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:27 AM
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5. Thanks for this post
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:31 AM
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6. Anything can be addictive...
You are wise to recognize this in yourself. Kudos!

Life it too short to spend most of it in front of a computer.
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:45 AM
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7. K&R You sound like a good person
I hope you can spend lots of time with your little girl. Read to her and take her to the park. They grow up so fast-my baby is 17 and wish to God that I had another chance to spend more time with all of my boys when they were little. But time is merciless and waits for no one. Take it from someone who learned the hard way. Politics will always be there to participate in, and is a worthy passion. But you don't get a second chance to spend time with your children.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:46 AM
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8. Excellent work all around! K and R
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:52 AM
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9. Thanks for posting this, wyldwolf
Local races are too often forgotten. We have an important election in one of the reddest districts in California. We want to turn Doolittle's red district into a blue one with Charlie Brown:

http://www.charliebrownforcongress.org/

He was pretty close in beating Doolittle the last election. Right now, we are only waiting until the Republicans have a nominee ... and we are ready to fight

:hi:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:55 AM
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10. Missed you
:hi:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:57 AM
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11. Man, I should quit.
It's tough. It's like crack, LOL.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:01 PM
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12. Great Read...
Thanks for posting.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:12 PM
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13. Nice to see ya and hear about what
you've been up to.

cheers.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:31 PM
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14. I'm kicking this to the top
Because maybe, just maybe, some of the most over the top posters in this forum will get a sliver of self-awareness and see themselves in your post and take a good long look at their own behavior here.

K&R.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:36 PM
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15. Cheers to your discipline!
:toast:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:36 PM
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16. Good to know we have so much in common. n/t
n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:45 PM
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17. Nice to see you.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 01:50 PM by AtomicKitten
I took a three-week break to get the synapses firing again, and DU remains a cornucopia of all kinds of useful information. It's never a bad idea to change the paradigm when the positive-to-negative ratio is off balance and when donning a thick skin just isn't enough.

:hi:
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:04 PM
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18. K&R!!!!!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:16 PM
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19. The definition of addiction is: does it cause serious problems in your
life but you keep partaking? By that account - missing putting your little one to bed - I would say yes you are an addict. You have done the right thing to temper your DUishness. I hope we see you now and again. Good post.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:46 PM
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20. I would venture to guess most DU posters have chronic
addictive personality type behaviorisms. I know I do. I am not an alcoholic, but could be if I let myself drink more often. I am not a gambler, but could be if I permitted myself to gamble often. Drugs haven't been appealing to me, so no worries there. I have been addicted to the internet in some form or another for over 10 years. I rationalize my extended stays here at DU by stating at least I am being productive in my spare time by discussing issues. Yes, I would venture to guess, you are not alone...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:56 PM
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21. You're right. Online activity needs to supplement human contact poltics, not replace it n/t
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:19 PM
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22. I'm kicking this again
This needs to be read.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 PM
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23. AA says that if you drink you are an alcoholic.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:25 PM
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24. nice to see you
great post
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