APRIL 17th Zogby poll for PA: Clinton 45% Obama 44%

[PerfectSage]

Clinton leads by a wide margin in western Pennsylvania, including Pittsburgh, while Obama leads by a large percentage in eastern Pennsylvania, including Philadelphia. In the central part of the state, including the state capital of Harrisburg, Clinton leads by eight points.

Pennsylvania


Clinton 45%
Obama 44%
Someone else 3%
Not sure 9%

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1481

[Nitrogenica]

1. Amazing.

Too close to call.

[gristy]

2. Those 9% not sure will swing mostly to Obama, I think

That would have Obama winning PA. And if Obama wins PA, Clinton will drop out of the race on Thursday (the 24th).

You heard it here first. :bounce:

[MattBaggins]

20. No she won't

The new goal post is the Ultimate Super delegate; Chief Justice Roberts, she will run screaming to the swearing in ceremony and demand that he swear her in instead.

[cliffordu]

22. I'll kick this....

:kick:

[rolleitreks]

3. Oh no! Zogby! Kiss of death! n/t

[Imagevision]

4. Clinton 45% Obama 44% --> wide margin? --> what's a narrow margin??

[SoCalDem]

12. That's a statewide AVERAGE

His high numbers in Philadelphia & Pittsburgh ..y'know..where the most people are counteract the littller places where she's got the advantage..

It's a microcosm of the "red-blue" Bush maps.. dems win where people are..bush wins where cows outnumber people, but the AREA is larger..

When dirt votes, republicans win :) I guess it's the same for the Hilster :)

[sniffa]

16. You're reading that wrong

Wide margin in Western PA.

[Bensthename]

5. uuh ooooes.. And 5 days to go. Obama momentum is unstoppable.

Could we see a win for Obama? I think so..

[rodeodance]

15. you forget he has no mojo after last night.

[Bensthename]

19. You silly, he has more then ever after last night.

She had a few gaffs and Obama fixed his just fine. She did get points when talking about her husband's work. I have to give her that.

[Shae]

21. I hope so.

I don't want to get my hopes up, but sometimes I can't help it.

:bounce: :shrug: :bounce:

[backscatter712]

6. I wonder how the ABC "debate" will affect the polls?

I'll bet there'll be a huge backlash, which will help Obama.

[Sinistrous]

7. I really need some good news this morning, but as that is a Zogby poll,

and not only Zogby, but Zogby/NEWSMAX, I think I will have to keep looking for something positive.

[ej510]

8. Zogby was right about California.

Hillary crushed Obama in early voting when no one knew who he was. But he got more votes in ca on super tuesday than she did if not for the early voting he beats her. But absentee voting is part of the process.

[Imagevision]

9. Last nights debate will make Obama even stronger, hasn't it always happened?!

[ej510]

10. But Hillary imo has at least an 8-10% pt lead.

[bermudat]

11. Is this the same Zogby that told John Stewart that Kerry would win in 2004?

I'll just wait til next Tuesday.

[PerfectSage]

13. But it helps a lot to continue these trends.

[goclark]

23. Remember Ohio

[LSK]

27. the exit polls showed a Kerry landslide

[PerfectSage]

30. Yeah I remember, when the polls closed in ohio and hearing the results don't match the exit polls.

and thought: oh fuck they're stealling the election.

[crankychatter]

31. Kerry DID win in '04

read more

kill your television

[MadBadger]

14. though it's Zogby, those numbers are in line with previous polls.

[4_Legs_Good]

17. Crap! That means we're losing by 24 points on Tuesday!!!

Zogby is always wrong by about 25% On the eve of the California primary he had Obama up by 14%.

Zogby = worst pollster EVER.

Don't be lulled into a false sense of security here, PA is a Clinton state by nature, and she's likely to win and win big. Don't place too much emphasis on it.

David

[thewiseguy]

18. Zogby was not far off on California

The early voting there messed up their numbers. Hillary was up by 20 points in early voting and she ended up winning there by 10.

[Eurobabe]

24. gobama

w00t!

[Independent-Voter]

25. Pennsyltucky will deliver PA to Veruca

Obama and Veruca's support in the bigger cities will be a wash, but Hillary ain't losing that bunch in the middle of the state. Old, white, low-educated folks are her bread and butter.

[tandem5]

26. Really? Well I paid Zogby to tell me something different. nt

[LulaMay]

28. I LOVE Zogby! He's like my FAVorite WIldly Inaccurate pollster! NH & oh were a GAS!!!

[quantass]

29. nice!

[quantass]

32. K&R

[quantass]

33. .

[JBoy]

34. Looking like Hillary's going to have trouble getting the 20+ point win she needs to stay alive.

Just "winning" PA won't be nearly enough. Hope she has paramedics standing by to deal with the SuperDelegate hemmorhaging.

[doublethink]

35. "Not Sure" is at 9%?

This guy?




Clinton 45%
Obama 44%
Someone else 3%
Not sure 9%

[liberaldem4ever]

36. I hope it's really close or an Obama win

I just heard on Tweety's show that somebody speaking for HRC say that if HRC wins by just one percent, that is a huge win for them! They are really trying to lower expectations. :wow: