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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:16 AM
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The Daily Pennsylvanian Endorsed Hillary !
Press Release

4/17/2008

Young Democrats For Hillary: The editorial board of University of Pennsylvania’s The Daily Pennsylvanian endorsed Hillary. “Clinton…is ready to lead this nation now. A successful champion for change… has the ability to turn policy into reality.”



Hillary Clinton has the experience necessary to achieve her vision

Pennsylvania Democrats are confronted with a tragedy of riches: two incredibly appealing candidates for their Party's nomination.

We want to believe that Sen. Barack Obama can accomplish all he promises. His soaring rhetoric and compelling vision have inspired us and many other students.

But while Obama's charisma far outshines that of Sen. Hillary Clinton, her public service, political experience and tenacity tell us not only "Yes we can" but also "How we can." As such, we endorse Clinton for the Democratic Party's nomination for president.

Our endorsement is not a rejection of Obama's leadership qualities. But choosing the president of the United States is too important a decision to make based on hope alone. After finishing his term in the Senate and better showing us what he can do for the American people, Obama could one day be a remarkable president.

Clinton, on the other hand, is ready to lead this nation now. A successful champion for change, her experience in the Senate and as first lady gives her a better understanding of how Washington works. She has the ability to turn policy into reality. And her mastery of causes central to the Democratic Party's platform makes her better suited to challenge presumptive Republican nominee John McCain.

Take her leadership on health-care issues. In 1993, then-first lady Clinton urged America to embrace universal health care during her keynote speech at Penn's commencement. Unfortunately, she was far ahead of the times. Her proposal was met with fierce resistance and ultimately rejected.

Refusing to give up, Clinton helped to expand children's health insurance in the late 90's instead. More than a decade later, her new policies - and the concept of universal health care itself - enjoy wider support because of her past work. Indeed, of all the candidates still in the race, she offers the most comprehensive health care proposal. And as with most of her plans, she also has a way to fund it.

Some doubt Clinton's ability to bring the country together. But, in New York, her senatorial campaigns united a surprisingly wide coalition of supporters across political and socioeconomic boundaries. She can do the same this November.

Others are concerned with her support for the Iraq War Resolution. But since then, she has pressed the Bush administration for accountability and demanded a responsible end to the war. She also has far more exposure to national security and foreign policy.

Ultimately, we are confident in Clinton's ability to implement her agenda. It's this quality that has brought leaders like Mayor Michael Nutter and Governor Ed Rendell to her side. And it's this quality that convinces us to support her as well.



http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/17/Opinion/Editorial.Our.Primary.Picks.Clinton.And.Mccain-3331885.shtml
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:20 AM
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1. Great, thanks!!!
Go Hillary!!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:20 AM
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2. "refusing to give up" ???? She dropped it like a hot potato and Kennedy and Kerry picked up the
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 11:20 AM by blm
pieces and crafted the SCHP bill.

She resorted to convincing Bill to sign it, which also proves that his commitment to universal healthcare was all show if he actually HAD to BE CONVINCED by his wife to pass healthcare for CHILDREN, fer chrissakes.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:24 AM
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3. That's not good for HRC, the Wharton School TEACHES how to outsource jobs
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 11:27 AM by EVDebs
http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/

to places like India, China, etc., for example Greenpoint Mortgage is listed in the mortgage 'success' category of outsourcing by them:

Case Study
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/articlepdf/632.pdf?CFID=55918794&CFTOKEN=15565619&jsessionid=a83064c28a4f6c322712

This fiasco has now resulted in job losses not only in the US but in India too. Investigate that a bit further and you'll see the far-reaching effects of the subprime meltdown.

THIS is the kind of globalizationist claptrap Bush learned in his Harvard MBA courses and that Wharton is still pushing on us.

Capital One Greenpoint Mortgage Eliminates 1900 Jobs
http://mortgageblues.us/news/132

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:48 AM
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4. That's just silly
.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:32 PM
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5. This is great...
Thanks for posting...

:kick:
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:37 PM
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6. It's a pity none of UPenn students can vote in the primary
In other words, a meaningless endorsement.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:40 PM
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9. Like your meaningless post....
I get it.
Thanks,
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:06 PM
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20.  Then it's a pity for you that the older ones can.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:39 PM
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7. Wow...talk about desperate....
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 01:39 PM by Hepburn
...an endorsement from a school newspaper and the Hillbots go wild!

:rofl:
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:41 PM
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10. Hey, let the Hill-o-trons have their moment...
Because at this point that's all they have left!
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:50 PM
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12. Shouldn't you be off somewhere worrying about
Obama's miserable night? Do you have time to come into posts that are obviously for Hillary supporters.

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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:02 PM
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16. Do you have to celebrate like a pack of hyenas over...
An endorsement from a college newspaper?

Obama did fine, especially considering that ABC laid out a two hour hit-job against him. Your Queen admitted to being a liar on national television.

Spin that, Hill-o-tron.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:47 PM
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32. This is icing on the cake. The cake: the entire state of Pennslyvania, April 22. (eom)
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:47 PM by oasis
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:06 PM
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21. Pathetic isn't it..
My cat Marvin would vote for Hillary too, though..

he's selfish

he ruthlessly attacks the other cats..for no reason..sometimes when they are asleep

he thinks he OWNS the couch, the loveseat, the bench, my shoulder, the bathtub

he wants all the toys just for himself

he steals ice cream & cheetos

he's always the first one to get to use the fresh litter

and he has been known to sit in the food bowl, so the others cannot eat
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:18 PM
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24. LOL....
...sounds like he gave some lessons to Maggie my Scottie! :evilgrin:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:39 PM
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8. Whoop-de-do - She got a college newspaper endorsement
:eyes:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:44 PM
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11. I really do not understand
how HER experience is the Senate is somehow superior to HIS experience in the Senate. A couple years longer, or what? HE has a longer career in elected public service (I'm sorry, being First lady doesn't count, it just doesn't).
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:51 PM
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13. This makes the endorsement suspect
In 1993, then-first lady Clinton urged America to embrace universal health care during her keynote speech at Penn's commencement. Unfortunately, she was far ahead of the times.

This shows the intellectual and historical vapidity of the people writing the endorsement.

Hillary was not "ahead of her time." Many people had been fighting for universal health care for decades. For example, Ted Kennedy has been on this issue for years before anyone even knew who Hillary Clinton was. Jesse Jackson ran on it as a platform in 1988 -- when Hillary was still helping WalMart bust unions -- and, in fact, Jesse advocated a single-payer universal plan -- which is far superior to the plan Hillary offered years later or offers today.

And, Hillary's plan was not rejected because she was ahead of her time (because she wasn't ahead of her time). It was rejected for several reasons -- the well-financed opposition of the health-care corporations -- and her secrecy and arrogance in running the entire operation, which pissed off many important people in DC.

So, basically, whoever got together and wrote this endorsement didn't know what they were talking about. Their credibility is somewhere between zero and none.

Very sloppy journalism job -- Grade: D+
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:51 PM
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14. K&R
For Hillary!!


:kick:
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:55 PM
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15. Half truth...Editorial | Our Primary picks: Clinton and McCain
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 01:58 PM by not_too_L8
It is not an endorsment it's a prediction
link to your article
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/17/Opinion/Editorial.Our.Primary.Picks.Clinton.And.Mccain-3331885.shtml


and also contains
John McCain is a principled and independent leader

By now, Senator John McCain has all but locked up the Republican nomination.

But we were rooting for him all along.

As one of the few Republican candidates to recognize the problem of global warming, understand the promises of stem-cell research and take a principled stand against torture, McCain has often openly defied his Party's conservative base.

That independence and willingness to cross party lines is attractive to a generation tired of partisan bickering in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

More importantly, McCain's unparalleled foreign policy experience put him head-and-shoulders above the other Republican candidates in the field.

The Arizona senator not only criticized the failed Rumsfeld strategy early-on in the Iraq War, but also supported a politically unpopular surge that later proved successful.

In short, McCain has the experience and credibility necessary to lead our country in the War on Terror without tarnishing America's image abroad.

It's not just that McCain's policies often appeal to people on both sides of the political aisle.

The Senator has also brought a much-needed sense of honesty and candor to the 2008 election season.

During his visit here last November, McCain wasn't afraid to give straight answers or admit that he disagreed with students on certain issues. After all, there's a reason they call his campaign the Straight Talk Express.

His personality is reflected in his steadfast (and sometimes obstinate) stance on the Iraq War. Still, it's refreshing to see a leader who is willing to stand up for his principles, even when those principles become unpopular.

With high registration and turnout numbers for Democrats, an unpopular incumbent and a faltering economy, many pundits have argued that the Arizona Senator faces an uphill battle.

But if McCain continues to play up his foreign-policy credentials and capture the attention of America's centrist middle, he will prove a major force to reckon with in the general election.



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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:03 PM
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17. Truth is a mere technicality to some here. nt
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:04 PM
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18. Obama inspires student volunteers....from the same newspaper
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/03/News/Obama.Inspires.Student.Volunteers-3300316.shtml

snip/

Penn attendees were chosen through a lottery last night for students who had signed up for at least four hours of volunteer work each week until the election.

Students said the event gave them energy to continue their campaign efforts in the three weeks remaining before Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.

"It was really rewarding for us to have worked so hard, then to be able to see him and be inspired by his speeches in person," College freshman Nate Miller said.

Miller became involved in Penn for Obama at the beginning of the semester and worked for the campaign in Iowa over winter break. He said that even though he's met Obama and heard his speeches before, "it's not the same as when you're feeding off his energy and everyone's energy around you."

Wharton freshman Elizabeth Celata, who is the Harrison College House dorm captain for Penn for Obama, also spoke about the energy at the event.

"I came out energized, being like, 'We've got to go, we've got to do this,'" she said.

Another striking feature of the event, students said, was the diversity of the crowd.

"It was amazing to me to see the old, the young, the rich, the poor, the business-oriented and teachers," College sophomore Andrew Remley said.


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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:30 PM
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29. it most clearly is an endorsement of Clinton, not merely a prediction
Maybe I don't follow your post, but if you're suggesting that the linked piece is not an endorsement of Clinton, you could not be more wrong.

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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:42 PM
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31. So they endorsed both Clinton and McCain?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:45 PM by not_too_L8
becuase this is from the same article...

John McCain is a principled and independent leader

By now, Senator John McCain has all but locked up the Republican nomination.

But we were rooting for him all along.


You embrace an endorsement from someone that endorses both Dem and Repuke in the same breath?

on edit
also this is an editorial staff article
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:47 PM
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33. I didn't embrace anything -- I just pointed out that the piece is an endorsement not a prediction
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:50 PM by onenote
I just pointed out that the piece cited most clearly is an endorsement of Clinton for the Democratic nomination. It says so as clearly as you could possibly expect it to: "...we endorse Clinton for the Democratic Party's nomination for president."

And its hardly unusual for a paper to make separate endorsements of a repub for the repub nomination and a Democrat for the Democratic nomination during primary season, which is what this paper has done. The endorsement of McCain can be viewed as pointless, but last I looked they hadn't cancelled the repub primary in PA, so its not totally inappropriate for the paper to make endorsements for both sets of primaries.

on edit: FWIW, I'm an Obama supporter and I don't agree with this endorsement. But I'm not going to pretend it isn't an endorsement or that the fact that separate endorsements were made in the two primaries somehow invalidates the endorsement.
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:49 PM
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35. News papers generaly endorse only one side, it's the point of the term endorsement
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:55 PM by not_too_L8
on edit

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Political endorsement is the action of publicly declaring one's personal or group's support of a candidate for elected office.


And did you notice the title of the article

Our Primary picks: Clinton and McCain

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:57 PM
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38. Not during primary season they don't
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:02 PM
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39. I stand corrected, it is an endorsement...well done
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:03 PM by not_too_L8
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:04 PM
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19. Hooray!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:10 PM
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22. A college newspaper?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:17 PM by Jake3463
You got to be kidding me.

Who has Temple's Newspaper or Villanova's endorsed. :sarcasm:

Has anyone got the important Booze News (this was a real paper when I went to school in NC) endorsement yet
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:15 PM
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23. I couldn't find an answer to your question.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:22 PM by JackBeck
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:19 PM
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25. Irrelevant
The race is over. Hillary will drop after NC.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:20 PM
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26. Obama's campaign
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:23 PM by Jake3463
Registered 2400 democrats on Penn's Campus. GOBAMA
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:21 PM
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27. Peeeeuuuuk!
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:30 PM
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28. That is perhaps one of the very best endorsements I've ever read! Congratulations Hillary!
And congratulations to the students at the University of Pennsylvanian for this great job!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:42 PM
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30. I thought so too.
B-)
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:47 PM
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34. It truly is....
Go Hillary!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:54 PM
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37. Even with its glaring and stupid errors
see my post above -- they are dead wrong on health care. They have no credibility. Their endorsement is based on false information.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:51 PM
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36. Um, she botched it on healthcare reform -- Which the public did want
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:51 PM by Armstead
"Take her leadership on health-care issues. In 1993, then-first lady Clinton urged America to embrace universal health care during her keynote speech at Penn's commencement. Unfortunately, she was far ahead of the times. Her proposal was met with fierce resistance and ultimately rejected."


For those with somewhat longer memories, the American public was clamoring for some kind of relief and reform on health care.

Perhspa they weren't ready for universal single payer. No one knows, because Clinton helped to get the issue so mangled through her inept leadership in that debate and process that the whole thing just died a miserable death.

That kind of poor leadership and managerial incompetence is not the mark of someone qualified to be president.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:02 PM
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40. Feels like the tide is turning, doesnt it?
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:39 PM
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41. It does
and damn! does it feel good. :D
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:22 PM
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42. O-M-G -- a poorly researched endorsement by a school paper makes you giddy?
A bunch of college kids hammer out an "endorsement" in their school paper, get their facts wrong, and it tells you that the "tide is turning." Whew. Lay off the sauce so early in the day.

But the endorsement is pretty emblematic of the Hillary campaign -- nice rhetoric, but provably false facts.
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