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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:39 PM
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"You disgraced my profession of journalism, and, by association, me"

An open letter to Charlie Gibson and George Stephanapoulos

Posted by Will Bunch

It's hard to know where to begin with this, less than an hour after you signed off from your Democratic presidential debate here in my hometown of Philadelphia, a televised train wreck that my friend and colleague Greg Mitchell has already called, quite accurately, "a shameful night for the U.S. media." It's hard because -- like many other Americans -- I am still angry at what I just witnessed, so angry that it's hard to even type accurately because my hands are shaking. Look, I know that "media criticism" -- especially when it's one journalist speaking to another -- tends to be a genteel, collegial thing, but there's no genteel way to say this.

With your performance tonight -- your focus on issues that were at best trivial wastes of valuable airtime and at worst restatements of right-wing falsehoods, punctuated by inane "issue" questions that in no way resembled the real world concerns of American voters -- you disgraced my profession of journalism, and, by association, me and a lot of hard-working colleagues who do still try to ferret out the truth, rather than worry about who can give us the best deal on our capital gains taxes. But it's even worse than that. By so badly botching arguably the most critical debate of such an important election, in a time of both war and economic misery, you disgraced the American voters, and in fact even disgraced democracy itself. Indeed, if I were a citizen of one of those nations where America is seeking to "export democracy," and I had watched the debate, I probably would have said, "no thank you." Because that was no way to promote democracy.

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Are you even thinking when simply echo some of the vilest talking points from far-right talk radio? What are actually getting at -- do you honestly believe that someone with a solid track record as a lawmaker in a Heartland state which elected him to the U.S. Senate, who is now seeking to make some positive American history as our first black president, is somehow un-American, or unpatriotic? Does that even make any sense? Question his policies, or question his leadership. because that is your job as a journalist. But don't insult our intelligence by questioning his patriotism.

Here's a question for you, George. Is it true that yesterday you appeared on the radio with conservative talk radio host Sean Hannity, and that you said you were "taking notes" when he urged you to ask a question about Obama's supposed ties to a former member of the Weather Underground -- which in fact you did? With all the fabulous resources of ABC News at your disposal, is that an appropriate way for a supposed journalist to come up with debate questions - by pandering to divisive radio shows?

And Charlie...could you be any more out of touch with your viewers? Most people aren't millionaires like you, and if Pennsylvanians are losing sleep over economic matters, it is not over whether the capital gains tax will go back up again. I was a little shocked when you pressed and pressed on that back-burner issue and left almost no time for high gas prices, but then I learned tonight that you did the same thing in the last debate, that you fretted over that middle-class family that made $200,000 a year. Charlie, the nicest way that I can put this is that you need to get out more.

More at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/An_open_letter_to_Charlie_Gibson_and_George_Stephanapoulos.html

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:42 PM
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1. Well done Will Bunch!
:applause: :thumbsup:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:42 PM
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2. Bravo.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:42 PM
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3. "you need to get out more."
You, Charlie, and a whole lot of other overpaid media whores.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:47 PM
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7. Yes, out of my TV. I had to clean the screen after that pissing match.
Disgusting. I have blocked ABC. I will never watch their tripe again.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:50 PM
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11. Yup!
All they care about are their own fat paychecks.

:puke:
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:55 PM
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15. .
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:43 PM
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4. Wow.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:44 PM by AllexxisF1
Holy crap I think both ABC's Journos just completely crashed their careers.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:03 PM
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18. Yep.
If only it were true...
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:44 PM
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5. K&R....excellent! Thanks for posting this! n/t
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:45 PM
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6. bravo. the debate was a JOKE. - nt
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:48 PM
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8. Sean Hannity is really getting a lot of attention for his "hits" on Obama.
I watched it one night and he was soooo proud and full of himself for starting up the Rev. Wright and now the William Ayres thing.

I think that is also the show that has Karl Rove on there.

The only good thing is thinking of how po'd Bill O'Reilly is that he's being overshadowed by Hannity.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:49 PM
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9. excellent post thank you K&R
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:49 PM
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10. I posted this editoral too
This morning ....... I wished I could have saved you wasting one of your 24 hour posts.
But a great letter non the less


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5546396&mesg_id=5546396
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:50 PM
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12. Did he miss Colbert's speech a few years back?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:51 PM by redqueen
This game ain't exactly new, buddy.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:53 PM
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13. Now is the season of our disgrace ...
and it just seems to go on and on since, well, Clinton I. It pervades every corner of the public arena. Flagrant lies and corruption, and utter shamelessness. We can't continue like this and keep our national soul.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:55 PM
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14. Thank you for seeing this disgrace of media
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:56 PM
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16. Kick..I have to go run now but I wanna read this
when I return..thanks, jgraz.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:57 PM
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17. Awesome!
:applause:
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:04 PM
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19. Excellent read, right on point!
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:19 PM
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20. Will Bunch is one of best journalists we have! Bravo! n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:29 PM
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21. Gibson pissed away all his anchorman gravitss in 90 minutes
He revealed himself as a hack during this debate and all his "serious" persona disappeared.

Stephanopolous? He was a lightweight to begin with. All he did was confirm that.

I could lie and say I will never watch ABC news again. But that would imply that I had ever watched them in the past.

I have not watched network news in at least 10 years. For the past 5 or 6 I haven't watched cable news either.


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:45 PM
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22. george stepou isn't very smart ,is he?
On the radio with sean hannity saying he's "taking notes" and then goes an abc Democratic debate and asks the same talking points of fascist radio?

george thinks we're not taking notes.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:53 PM
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23. Yup, back to the league of Women Voters running the show
My gawd, we all know that tv has taken over the brainwashing of America. How the hell did we get into Iraq? If a news reporter or announcer even questioned our march to war they were fired or demoted immediately.

Is anyone watching what bush has planned for Iran? Only the old time, gutsy reporters that were dismissed by the media for speaking against the govt. must us their blogs to sound the alarms.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:01 PM
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24. Wow, thank you sir..
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:14 PM
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25. Shit that rocks. I love the capital gains crap. Imagine the trucker who just lost his job
fretting over how much tax Charlie Gibson will be forced to spend on his stock dump - something that required NO WORK WHATSOEVER.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:18 PM
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26. Actually this journalist may have disgraced himself, because it looks like he has a dog in this...
fight.

And that's a no-no.

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:35 PM
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29. How so?
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:50 PM
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30. This journalist spends much of his time focusing on how they questioned Obama.
He sees Obama as a victim in this debate, when that's really up to the eye of the beholder. He was so angry that he had to crank out this piece within hours of the end of the debate. He feels personally hurt by it, as he says, because he was offended as a journalist. I think he has a dog in this fight.

I have seen debates like last night's many times in the past during primary and general elections. While questioning candidates on these BS issues isn't exemplary, I have seen much, much worse.

I simply do not understand why we ask the media to cover issues when we ourselves don't discuss them. I think we are as much to blame for this as the media are.

~Writer~
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:30 PM
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35. 4 out of 5 of the garbage questions went to Obama.
You can't talk about the craptastic job of moderating without mentioning the TRUTH of how biased it was. It would be poor journalism not to comment on it.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:53 PM
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38. Opinion piece. Allowed to have bias.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:28 PM
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27. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:31 PM
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28. Capital gains tax. Holy shit. What about, do I make my rent or
go to the doctor, buy my groceries or fill the tank?

What an incompetent @sshole. Bunch is right on.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:51 PM
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31. And Clinton-lovers and rightwingers together LOVE it when the media is disgraceful!
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:53 PM
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32. I am a journalism grad - back in 1975, when they actually spoke truth to power.
Can you imagine George S. and Gibson covering Watergate?

Neither can I.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:42 PM
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36. If the media
had been as tame then as it is now, Watergate would have never been reported. Nixon would have served his term out, and the war would have continued.
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:36 AM
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33. Link gone!
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:44 AM
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34. It works now...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM
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37. "Error . .
:kick:
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:55 PM
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39. Great read. Thanks!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:58 PM
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40. Nice that he called them on it.
:kick:
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