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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:59 PM
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ABC "News" May Address The Growing Criticism Over Their "Debate" Tonight on World News
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/abc/stephanopoulos_we_asked_tough_but_appropriate_questions_82676.asp

"TVNewser has learned ABC News may address the growing criticism tonight on Gibson's World News. We'll let you know more, when we know more..."



Should be interesting to see if they do. That will be my goodbye to ABC News as a whole.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:00 PM
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1. I'm not giving them any ratings.
Fuck ABC.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:11 PM
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20. I was going to post that same thought, I think we should wait til it's posted here to see how they
want to dig out of this.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:14 PM
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23. Unless you are a Neilsen family you are in no danger of upping their ratings.
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:46 PM
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46. Zactly. No ratings from my household.
They're just going to say the same thing we've heard (read) all day anyway.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:01 PM
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2. Good I hope they issue an apology and fire the two partisan hacks
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:01 PM
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3. They wont do either.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:02 PM
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7. You are probably right...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:05 PM
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10. correct. It will be a "screw you, I did a good job, why should we listen to viewers anyways?"
announcement.

otherwise, they'd have to admit they used a "former" clinton staffer as a moderator.

can't do that.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:16 PM
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25. That's what it will be
I think what's really stinging them is the horror expressed by so many of their journalist colleagues and media critics. They don't give a shit about Democratic viewers being offended.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:01 PM
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4. Let me know how it turns out.... no, let me guess.... Gibson will defend
himself!!!
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:01 PM
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5. just a way to get more viewers. i'll catch it on youtube. no thanks.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:22 PM
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30. And be one of the hit counts? Think again.
Every time you watch a YouTube video, or even a video on their website, you're another notch in the number of total viewers. Unlike TV, which only measures Nielsen subscribers, this would mean you would be counted.

Just watch it on TV. If you're not a Nielsen household, you're not going to make a difference in their ratings. A high number of video views, however, gives them some concrete bragging rights, no matter who posts the video.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:02 PM
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6. Capital Gains Gibson should just apologize
but he won't.

Good that they're feeling the heat though.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:08 PM
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14. Capital Gains Gibson---LOL!!! Must remember that one!! n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:03 PM
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8. "May" address.
:eyes:

Feck 'em. Not watching no matter what they do. I hope Brian Williams or Katie Couric overtake Chuck Glibson in the ratings.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:04 PM
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9. For most weeks, Brian is ahead of Chuckie, but Katie couldnt pay people to watch her.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:19 PM
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27. Well, I'm glad Brian beats Chuck. Last numbers I heard had Chuck ranked #1.
I can't stand Katie, but I'd watch her before Chuck at this point.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:36 PM
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39. Ratings? It'll be a race to the bottom.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:38 PM
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40. That's what I'm hoping.
I never understood why anyone watched abc to start with.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:06 PM
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11. This could be interesting
but I don't see them doing it, honestly.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:12 PM
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60. rucky, you said, "I don't see them doing it, honestly.."
They might do it--but if they do, I guarantee it won't be "honestly."
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:06 PM
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12. How nice! They create a shitstorm with horrible journalism and try to cash in on it.
No. I won't watch.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:07 PM
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13. Hope they can help their sponsors, I wont buy ANYTHING from them this week
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:08 PM
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15. Yeah Won't be watching
I'll wait till I read it on here or another website than I'll be calling again to let them know what a tool he is if its not a full apology.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:10 PM
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16. I won't be watching it no matter what they say or do. And after
Snuffle-up-Hill's-ass shrugging it off already this morning I certainly don't expect poor poor Gibson to regret anything.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:10 PM
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17. I want them to apologize to Obama and the American people. Anything
short of that will not get my viewership.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:11 PM
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18. Translation: Gibson will make smug, smarmy non-apology.
A big "fuck you" to all his viewers.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:11 PM
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19. DON'T WATCH!!!!
Just wait till the clip comes on youtube.

Don't want to give them more ratings.

BOYCOTT ABC!!!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:12 PM
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21. Nielsen doesnt track my home, so I wont give them ratings.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:55 PM
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56. I don't think that's the only way to track ratings nowadays.
A lot of people get their local channels through cable.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:21 PM
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29. Agreed.
This is just a tease to lure in viewers. Even if they do address it, my money is on them playing defense.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:12 PM
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22. I'm not watching, they can go fuck themselves for all I care
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:16 PM
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24. watch and make a list of the advertisers, maybe we need a boycott? n/t
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:17 PM
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26. We should just hit Disney
If we are going to boycott anyone...they own ABC
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:21 PM
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28. Gibson is going to be executed on live tv?
Now that I might want to watch.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:08 PM
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59. I concur.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:23 PM
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31. "May address the criticism" Perhaps they SHOULD have addressed the ISSUES
instead of flag pins. Perhaps Charlie Gibson should have familiarized his elitist ass with the very real problems facing the unwashed masses before trying to paint Obama as the elitist.

Not watching.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:24 PM
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32. if by 'growing criticism' they mean 'overblown whining'
this response to some tough questions has been just downright silly. this is just the beginning.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:25 PM
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33. ****ABC is proof of what is ailing America -- The American people need to take back their Liberties!
They couldnt care less about the American people...and they Are the embodiment of what is wrong with America...
It is only when American people fight back and dont listen and follow like lemmings to waht the media says that they can begin to take back everything.

Hope America makes the right choice this winter.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:25 PM
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34. anything short of firing those 2 won't do it for me
and I won't be watching or waiting for it from those assholes
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:26 PM
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35. They will say quickly: "We stand by our decisions" and ok, onto other news....And the Audience will
forgive and forget...because that is always what has happened...the media understand the public are sheep..
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:29 PM
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36. delete
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:29 PM by hnmnf
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:29 PM
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37. I think they will lose some 15-20,000 viewers to NBC over this.
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:33 PM
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38. I predict smugness, smirks, and self-righteousness.
No way in Hell these guys will admit they did anything wrong. That's not their style. They'll act as if they know best, and that we ignorant non-media people shouldn't try to wrap our little brains around the complex stuff that they understand and we don't. These guys think the sun shines out of their wazoos, and that the rest of us should be grateful (and silent) that they deign to give us the benefit of their wisdom.

Feh.

Talk about elitism!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:41 PM
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41. I hope they do.
It was a bullshit debate and they fucking know it!!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:41 PM
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42. Gibson can kiss my pasty white ass.
I'm sure someone on here will tell me what he says, anyway. :D
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:44 PM
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43. Letter.....
Dear George,

In the sham called the Debate last night, why not one question to Hillary on the Colombia Trade deal and how it interconnects with Bill Clinton and his speech fees of $800,000? Nor did anyone ask Hillary about her disgraceful Campaign manager and his day job, or whether he still holds a position as campaign staff. The fact that it was reported on ABC news that in 1995, Hillary advised Bill in reference to White Rural Voters; "screw 'em", yet that failed to make it as a debate question, and that smells nothing but convenient.

Because, oddly, there was plenty of time for questions to Obama's Flag Pins, If his pastor loves this country, and some radical from the 60s who was never convicted of anything, and is currently a professor at U of C.

That's why this debate was a farce, and a pile-on.

I'm sure that both Capital Gains Gibson and you, George Hannity Clinton Stephanopolous will find ways to excuse your behaviors; you always do. The problem is that since you would be lying, any excuse offered up will not be believed. Look, the American people are sick, tired and bitter about the role the media plays in our election. To your ABC Family I ask, are you all really patriotic citizens who loves your country, or do you just play patriots on television? From what have observed thus far, actors come a dime a dozen, but real patriots never ever play games with our democracy. And so you need to start wearing your own flag pin, cause I'm starting to get suspicious.

Respectfully,

XXXXXXXXX
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:44 PM
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44. If you have TiVo
Go to your channel listing. Find the ABC station and then give their programs three thumbs down -- using the red button. This information is recorded and advertisers have access to it. It isn't much, but every little bit helps.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:45 PM
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45. Lock em out
People who are upset with ABC's errr "DeBase" should lock out or delete/skip their channels from their TV listings. Ratings are the only thing that matters to the media heads anyway.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:46 PM
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47. I won't watch that hack Gibson.
He actually makes Katie look like a journalist.

The next time I tune into that ABC news show will be after they get rid of Gibson.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:47 PM
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48. I don't care what they have to say. I won't be watching.
Why tune in to add to their ratings?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:49 PM
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50. If you arent a nielsen familiy, you arent adding to their ratings.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:52 PM
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54. Thanks. I still don't care to watch though.
I'm sure whatever they have to say, it won't resemble an apology.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:48 PM
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49. I guess I'll be missing that
:rofl:
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:50 PM
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51. May....
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:50 PM
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52. Count me out.
Whatever is said will be on the intertubes within minutes.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:50 PM
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53. No criticism from me

It's about time somebody gave Senator Obama some tough questions to answer.


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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:00 PM
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57. Not even when the word is out that Clinton admitted that Obama could defeat McCain?
Meaning if she does not not retake the pledged delegate lead... The supers have no reason to overturn the pledged.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:53 PM
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55. F*ck them, They can't apologize enough- which they won't do.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:07 PM
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58. Gibson is an Elitist... He wanted to go into law, but he wasn't SMART enough
Born in Evanston, Illinois, Gibson moved to Washington, D.C., when he was 12. He attended the prestigious Sidwell Friends School, a private college-preparatory school in the city. Gibson graduated from Princeton University where he was news director for the university radio station, WPRB-FM and a member of Princeton Tower Club. He now serves on Princeton's Board of Trustees. Originally, Gibson planned to go into law, but reconsidered when he determined his grades were not sufficient for top tier law schools.

Capital Gains, Capital Gains.... My MONEY


WNT salary is $8,000,000 per year, the same as his GMA salary


No wonder he's outta touch with average Americans incomes. He makes $8,000,000 annually.






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