The Reviews are IN!

[blogslut]

San Francsisco Chronicle: Gibson, Stephanopoulos criticized for debate moderation
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/04/17/entertainment/e132310D72.DTL

Los Angeles Times: Stephanopoulos defends his questions to Obama
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/04/stephanopoulos.html

Boston Globe: Debate Rages over the Debate
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/04/debate_rages_ov.html

The New York Times: Blogtalk: Bloggers Turn Up Heat on ABC
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/blogtalk-bloggers-turn-up-heat-on-abc/

Huffington Post: ABC DEBATE: Hight Ratings, Critics Give Broadcast a Poor Review
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/17/abc-debate-high-ratings-c_n_97249.html

Seattle Post-Intelligencer: Moderators made sure there were no winners
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/359441_bunting18.html

Yahoo News: Et Tu, ABC?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080417/cm_huffpost/097229

Radar Online: Forget almost everything you've read about last night's idiotic presidential debate...
http://radaronline.com/features/2008/04/pittsburgh_debates_george_stephanopoulos_full_court_press_01.php

PR Week: ABC lost Democratic Debate
http://www.prweekus.com/ABC-lost-Democratic-Debate/article/109116/

Newsday: ABC Criticised for Handling of Democratic Debate
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-lideba0417,0,2555993.story

National Journal: 4/17: Worst. Debate. Ever?
http://blogometer.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/417_worst_debat.html

[Joanne98]

1. BWHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

[Zachstar]

2. ABC = FAILBOAT!!

LOL thanks for posting!!!

[Richardo]

57. "failboat"

:rofl:

[GarbagemanLB]

3. So much for Hillary getting a bump out of this. lol

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. It is all over the web and written news

ABC sucks a big corporate tit.

The debates in the fall should not be run by corporate news agencies.
Bring back the league of Woman voters.

[AtomicKitten]

5. Looks like ABC is the big loser.

But we already knew that after "Path to 9/11."

K&R

[crankychatter]

6. k / r

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[gateley]

7. It's more important

how the over 10,000,000 people who viewed it reacted.

There are many of us who saw it for what it was, but may others may not have paid attention up until now.

What matters is what the voters take away from it.

[Vinca]

Judging from the posts on ABC and other sites, the majority

of people seem to agree with my assessment of it as an "ambush," not a debate.

[gateley]

12. I'm happy to hear that,

but my concern is those people who aren't responding. Who just took the debate at face value and don't see it for the crap it was.

[Grinchie]

50. The people who didnt respond likely didn't waste their time watching it

After all, there are many more entertaining things to do than watch the TeeVee, such as play World of Warcraft with your friends and discuss the current issues while having fun.

One thing that I noticed, when I asked my circle of friends about whether they had seen the recent debate, most of them had not, but nearly all had seen the Clinton Chronicles and saw the similarities between the allegations made against Bill Clinton in Arkansas with the behavior of the Bush administration in relation to cronyism, obstruction of justice, and politicization of the DOJ. Those who had not, were interested in seeing it.

I'm beginning to get the feeling that Clinton laid the framework for what Bush was able to accomplish because they are fast and loose with the truth, and yearn power at any cost.

Cut for the same cloth I feel. Now as for Hillary, one can only imagine what she was up to as a partner in the Rose Law Firm which was intimately tied to ADFA and Government backed loans.

I am amazed that so many law enforcement officials would be willing to go on record with evidence regarding Mena, yet nothing ever happened, even when Clinton was eventually elected President.

What's also more incredible as I investigated the suppressed video, "The Clinton Chronicles" (available on YouTube), was that the big media outlets were very quick to discredit the reputation of the Citizens for Honest Government organization, who took the people that knew the case, and presented it to the public as a warning. Obviously, they failed, but the message was valid, and is a haunting reminder that history does indeed repeat itself.

We have seen Bush continue down the road of control in regards to Government regulation and enforcement. Fire people that disagree, Hire incompetent cronies for positions they are unqualified for, and generally run the Government like Boss Tweed.

If the Clintons were not running for positions of Power again, they could have lived their retirement in peace and style, but one has to ask, Why would you want to be president in this day, if not to change the US for the Better, or maintain control over what you have?

Hillary doesn't have what it takes, and her circle of friends and cronies is pretty scary indeed.

Stupid is and Stupid does.

[Cha]

53. There ya go!

Righteous Rant.

[redqueen]

8. This is the bright side!

With their over-the-top antics, they have shown their true colors...

[BenDavid]

9. Well gee, what did ya expect from the whoremedia that supports

"Barry". Every chance they get they will prop him up so that he loses no glitter. You Dems really wanna lose in November? Then you stay with Him......I will not come back in here on November 5th and say, "I told you so". Nope. Maybe we can win in 2012.

[rateyes]

10. "YOU Dems" and not "WE Dems"???

Thanks for showing your true colors.

[scheming daemons]

44. Haha.... let me guess.... "Ignored" is actually BenDavid?

Who DIDN'T know that he wasn't really a Democrat.

[Tesha]

45. Got it in one! (NT)

[blogslut]

11. You Dems?

You Dems really wanna lose in November?

You're not a Democrat? Why are you here?

[AspenRose]

13. Wow, that's telling.

Very revealing.

[NJSecularist]

31. What did IGNORED say? n/t

[BlooInBloo]

18. Exactly. "you dems" - just like I said downthread.

[NanceGreggs]

24. "Barry"?

"You Dems"?

In case you haven't noticed, Barack is creaming Blondie - and "we Dems" are fine with that.

Better stock-up on the bitter herbs, BenDavid. You're going to be living on a steady diet of them for the next eight years.

[Window]

25. Damn skippy you won't get a chance to "come back in here

on November 5th and say, I told you so," 'cause it ain't gonna happen.

[Champion Jack]

26. Just go away, Ben you're embarrassing yourself with these pathetic remarks

[JBoy]

30. Just go away. You've grown tiresome.

[formercia]

39. A pimply-faced barely pubescent

I want to grow up to be a Likudnik kinda twit.

I'm glad you're not old enough to vote.

Why don't you put your ass where your mouth is and go join the IDF and quit whining.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

47. Hillary Clinton thinks you're a whiner and a wimp for complaining about the media.

But she only abuses you because she loves you.

[roguevalley]

56. we will stay with him and you go back to freeperland. you dems?

you just outed yourself, pug. don't come back November 5th. In fact, go now.

[BlooInBloo]

14. You failed to quote the rightwing sources that Clinton supporters love so gosh-darned much....

... For example:

The National Review:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTg5Mzg3NDI2YjFhOWE1ZjU1ZWZmYTZlOTM0NjU4YzI=

Someone in the mainstream media finally mentions the William Ayers connection.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWY3YTlhZmJkMjM0ZjA0NDEzZWQ0OTA0MzYyZjUwOWQ=

Sensibly, Gibson asked what it was that Wright had said that had troubled him long before it became a public issue.

David Brooks:

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/no-whining-about-the-media/index.html?hp

I thought the questions were excellent.

Marc Ambinder:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/04/keeping_the_score_card_theres.php

the artificial distinction between politics, personality and policy doesn't exist in this league, and if you're uncomfortable with it, then change the rules or don't run for office.

DU Clinton supporters and rightwingers are BFF!!! So don't bother hoping for them to vote for the Democratic nominee - they won't - they're Vichy.

[blogslut]

21. Yeah, I know

ABC News Division has become nothing but a divisive outlet for corporate carpetbaggers. Howard K. Smith is spinning in his grave.

[backscatter712]

15. Hey ABC!!!

[Bensthename]

16. Any gains either candidate made are canceled with this as the news,

And it is worth criticizing.

[knixphan]

17. fill up their message boards!

[FightingIrish]

19. Now it's personal

That the national media are failing their duty to inform and report fairly and without bias has been obvious for some time. When a network like ABC has such contempt for its viewers that it sees fit to meddle in a pivotal national election, it works against democracy. The moderators, which has to be a misnomer, acted with such arrogance toward one candidate and in favor of the other, they did not even try to conceal their purpose. I would like to believe that this despicable use of the power of our airwaves did not reflect corporate policy or intent, but rather the inflated sense of self importance of the two talking heads. Until ABC issues a public apology to the American people, I can only believe it was a deliberate attempt at the highest levels of the network to influence the outcome of the Democratic primary election. They can sell all the erectile dysfunction remedies they want but, when they start screwing with my rights as a voter, it’s personal.

[Voice for Peace]

46. ROFL!!!!! Love it!

How about "Reformed Radicals"

[npincus]

20. HAR-dee HAR HAR....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The Backlash cometh?

[City Lights]

22. K&R cuz abc sux. nt

[shireen]

54. my condolences for your loss ...

Kaylee's photo is beautiful. She must have been a very special little soul.
:hug:

[City Lights]

59. Thanks, shireen.

:hug: She was beautiful, inside and out...such a gentle girl, and our last lap cat. :cry:

[YDogg]

23. It was amateurish as hell

like some freaking middle school SGA election debate gathering with questions from 12 year-olds.

[knixphan]

27. exactly.

[abq e streeter]

49. Most of the 12 year olds I work with would have had much more intelligent

and pertinent questions. ABC is truly pathetic...BTW, I can't get my emoticons, or whatever they're called, to work, but by your NM state flag, I'm assuming you're also here in the land of entrapment... er... enchantment. So picture a waving smiley face from a fellow NM DUer.

[Scurrilous]

28. K & R

:thumbsup:

[merh]

29. My favorite article out of those you linked

http://radaronline.com/features/2008/04/pittsburgh_debates_george_stephanopoulos_full_court_press_01.php

:thumbsup:

[JBoy]

32. I agree - that was very entertaining.

I love his dig at George Will passing judgment on Obama:

"I defer to superior breeding because here's a guy so snooty that he could go to the Elitist Persons' Ball and guests would say, 'Who's that elitist over there?' Here's a guy that when he goes to the ballpark, he may eat a hotdog but he probably has his pinkie extended. You can just imagine him denouncing Sen. Obama as an elitist over a good glass of sherry, looking down his superior nose, perhaps through a monocle. The whole thing is beyond satire."

[merh]

35. that was my favorite part

I love a good ending :rofl:

[writes3000]

34. This should be a main post! One of us should post it. It's fantastic. n/t

[merh]

36. go for it

:hi:

[uponit7771]

33. K & R

[Evergreen Emerald]

37. And where were you people when Clinton was attacked

It is ok as long as its a woman?

Why the double standard?

[JAbuchan08]

43. We've got to know exactly what you're talking about

I can never tell where legitimite criticism of criticism of Clinton is supposed to end and where the unfair attacks begin.

[Prophet 451]

48. The attacks on her had more substance

Albeit, not much more and I wrote a pissed-off email about that as well. I'm actually supporting Obama but the majority of these debates have been playing "gotcha" with the candidates instead of getting them to actually debate.

[Grinchie]

51. Hillary is a Woman?

Hillary is a Power Hungry Autocrat. Hillary sure does act masculine with all the attacks and very strained "Nostalgic Memories" that come off a teleprompter

We are not attacking Hillary due to sex, but due to actions. Sex really has nothing to do with being president, nor should race. Oh wait, maybe Sex does have something to do with being president -- Just ask Bill Clinton.

[Faygo Kid]

55. Why don't you quit asking the same question over and over?

What was attacked was the intelligence of the American people.

Again.

Gas up to $3.53 a gallon here; new report points out the disaster that continues to be Iraq; many more issues. Neither Rev. Wright nor Bosnian sniper questions are going to bring us jobs, health care or peace.

[roguevalley]

58. oh please. no double standard here. we had to listen to your shit

when she whined about 'why am I first?'.

edit: this applies up the list at the person whining about hillary being so picked upon.

[stephinrome]

38. sent list to abc n/t

[DrFunkenstein]

40. Gaffe-Based Journalism Rocks! And Its So Much Work to Do!

Seriously, they could have thrown together those questions in about 4 minutes. Meanwhile, there are more than 4,000 dead soldiers in Iraq while 20% of returning veterans have PTSD or a major depression as their suicide rates skyrocket. Gas prices are through the roof, people are already declaring we are in a recession, our infrastructure is crumbling, and Dick Cheney is still alive.

[Eurobabe]

41. ABC = Already Been Chewed

See ya Charlie, see ya Georgie Boy! :hi:

[samsingh]

42. 'journalists' who love America would ask more insightful questions

[Buzz Clik]

52. On Day to Day, an ABC exec was smacked around for supporting the questions.

It was sweet.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89760885

[meow mix]

60. K&R

lol