Does anybody blame Obama for his answers rather than ABC for its questions?

[splat]

Or is that disloyal?

[GarbagemanLB]

1. I can't help but wonder if you think a question on Vince Foster would have been appropriate?

[ColbertWatcher]

8. There's still time for a Vince Foster question, remember...

...FOX is doing the convention.

[ampad]

24. Or a blow job question

Blue dress, Monica WTH ask away. :eyes:

[ColbertWatcher]

29. Exactly! n/t

[rodeodance]

47. some folks are DU are obsessed with Bill C.'s penis.

[Name removed]

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[Hepburn]

56. So....should we switch topics and talk about the cigar that...

...Bill smoke afterward?

BTW: Enjoy your short stay here.

[Froward69]

62. The guard is

up against Freepers... We Democrats believe that EVERY word has a meaning and a place. Foul language does not upset the typical democrat. where as Repukes get offended at the thought of those words being used.. now Democrats as a whole do get offended at the misuse of words. such as "Democrat convention". or "The Democrats debate" When it should be "The Democratic Convention" and "a Democratic Debate" or "Debate of Democrats."

See the difference?

[rodeodance]

46. only a fool would bring up that horrible event. You fall in that category

[2rth2pwr]

19. She would have handled it better than Obama's lame attempts.

Dismiss the question and move on.

[PVnRT]

30. Uh-huh

If Obama had done that, you and the media this morning would be asking why he kept avoiding questions like he had something to hide.

[tekisui]

31. She would have laughed and said something about angels.

[Boz]

27. It wasn't about the questions as much as the process, They were supposed to be MODERATING a debate

between the candidates.

They were not.

The questions in debates are to elicit conversation between the candidates.

It did not.

In both case the MODERATORS were acting as DEBATERS and actively participating in debate between the candidates, including their editorial view points and narrative.

It was not a debate, that is why people are angry. It as an editorial talk show.

And it was an OpEd format on top of that, no fact checking, just opinionatic questioning and gotcha positioning.

[tridim]

2. I blame Obama for his great answers to ABC's idiotic questions. nt

[K Gardner]

3. oh for fuck's sake.

[Cant trust em]

4. What was wrong with his answers?

I didn't have a response to any of the questions. He has to work on his delivery, but the content was fine.

[goletian]

5. obamas answers were great. the questions were just a waste of time - nt

[TwilightGardener]

6. Smells like some Hillary supporters are nervous about a big sympathy backlash for Obama.

There's a lot of outrage out there for anyone dissing Obama--people like him, and don't want to see him treated unfairly. Scares ya, huh?

[Romulox]

48. The last feeling a Commander in Chief should elicit is sympathy! nt

[Romulox]

49. dupe nt

[BklynChick]

7. I will say that ABC fucked up big time, and also Obama didn't answer questions as well as I would

have liked. Admittedly, he seemed rattled and tired, but he should have been more on his game.

[Cant trust em]

12. Obama never responds to debates well

it's not his strong suit. I felt like the content of his answers was fine, but he needs to work on his delivery.

[applegrove]

15. He isn't as polished in debates as I would like to see.

[democrattotheend]

18. I would agree, although he has gotten better

At least until last night, where he was understandably a little flustered.

[Cant trust em]

22. He's more of a deep thinker while Clinton is more of a quick thinker

at least that's what someone posted that they read somewhere a while back. Honestly, Obama reminds me a lot of myself when I'm talking issues with people. I spend a lot of time thinking about the perfect word and as a result a lot of umms come out. But I'm not running for president so I usually get the benefit of the doubt.

[democrattotheend]

17. He had gotten a lot better

But he was knocked off his game last night by the barrage of gotcha questions. But I can't imagine too many people would have fared much better.

[ColbertWatcher]

14. Agreed.

Maybe if he had laughed at them more or hesitated in asking them, believing them to be "joke" questions.

The whole charade could have used a little more outright ridiculing, IMHO.

Kinda like what he did with the "shame on you" think with Clinton.

[Cant trust em]

20. That was my reaction to the "Do you think Rev. Wright loves America as much as you do?"

He could have chuckled and asked "Are you serious?"

The low point of the debate was my high point for comedy.

[ColbertWatcher]

28. Yes!

Can you just see that happening?

I know the audience would have joined in, and of course, ABC would have quickly gone to commercial break.

But, it would be nice to see him (either, actually) answer one of those stupid questions with a sharp, "I understand you need to get ratings, but I've already answered that, I will answer it again if you wish, because I have nothing to hide and will not avoid direct questions. But there are more important issues. Will you ask me about those too? Or will this just be more gossip?"

If we are serious about asking serious questions, then our candidates need to insist their time (and ours) isn't wasted with FOX-type questions.

[zabet]

9. No.

Obama is perfect. Obama can do no wrong. It was all a set up. Hillary had the questions handed to her before the debate. It was a concerted attack to make Obama look bad. ABC needs to sign off the airwaves permanently!!!!

:sarcasm: <----as if it was really necessary

[sandnsea]

10. Does anybody care about Hillary's "security umbrella" or "current" ss

She said some crazy shit last night and she's getting away with it. Obama was fine.

[msongs]

11. on Obamacraticunderground? surely you jest nt

[StevieM]

13. I don't see the fuss. Obama did fine, and the debate was nothing special and nothing terrible IMO

It was just another debate. I don't think Hillary did that well. She let Obama get away with pretending that he was running a positive campaign when he was actually running the most hateful campaign since 1884 when the Republicans accused Democrat Grover Clevland of fathering an illegitimate child. I suspect that Obama will win Pennsylvaniaa and end the race, which is realy sad because he is such a mean-spirited man who is totally undeserving of the presidency.

Steve

[democrattotheend]

16. I thought some of his answers could have been better

But I also think he was ganged up on and that the questions were ridiculous. Wouldn't the average PA voter benefit more from hearing about their plans to address the housing crisis than hearing about Reverend Wright yet again?

I read some comments on PA newspaper blogs from undecided PA voters who said this debate did nothing to help them get a clearer picture of where the candidates stood on the issues. So I think the debate was a disservice to the voters. Like I said, I was disappointed in a few of Barack's answers, but I think he handled himself reasonably well considering the barrage he faced.

[Freida5]

21. Obama was not prepared.

[AtomicKitten]

23. inflammatory is as inflammatory does

[splat]

25. All these varied answers -- is there a sense he got knocked off his game?

what Democrattotheend said in #17?:

"But he was knocked off his game last night by the barrage of gotcha questions. But I can't imagine too many people would have fared much better."

[AtomicKitten]

26. you wish

[kenny blankenship]

32. In 20 seconds or less, because we have to go to break, When did you stop molesting children?

[JoFerret]

33. Outrageous

Obama should not be questioned by mere mortals.

[stillcool]

37. bitter.

[JoFerret]

43. Yes thanks - I'll have a pint of ginger beer shandy

(What on earth is that supposed to mean?)

[RBInMaine]

34. The "debate" was corporate CRAPOLA, and Obama held his own JUST FINE !

[gcomeau]

35. Don't have a problem with his answers. Blame him for what?

[stillcool]

36. blame his answers for the questions?

[undeterred]

38. I blame ABC for its idiots and for wasting America's time

[Cha]

39. I know you blame Obama for hilary lying,

whinging, and posing..

cause you're just a splat who goes for the desperate liars.

[Bensthename]

40. Did I miss something? What was wrong with his answers? He did great.

Thus the pile on the mods.

[Yes We Did]

41. Obama was being conciliatory... ABC was being a f&$king Di#k

[JoFerret]

42. Yes. Those equestions were not a surprise

.

[SeaLyons]

44. Obama supporters????

Oh no. ABC should be shut down as far as they're concerned.

:crazy:

[MethuenProgressive]

45. I asked the same thing! "Obama strikes out. DU followers blame the pitcher."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5548658&mesg_id=5548658

The DUbamas all blame ABC for Obama's mumbled mutterings!

[izzybeans]

50. Blame him for saying 'Can we get on to real issues?"

Yeah I hate him for that.

[meow mix]

51. since it was a freeper attack, if u side with ABC your a traitor

[barb162]

53. George Stephanopoulos is a Democrat, right?

SO he's not a freeper, etc. I don't know Gibson's pol. affiliation.

[meow mix]

57. just because you have a so-called "dem" operating the cannon

doesnt mean it wasnt a freeper attack.

i suggest listening to the questions again, and remember they came from Hannity.

[barb162]

65. Just because some show host has the same question as George S

doesn't mean George's question comes from that show host.

[Hepburn]

54. How about if they had asked HilLIARy about...

Monica

Bill being disbarred

...would it be OK then to blame ABC for dumb questions?

[saltpoint]

55. To answer your lame question, no, I blame ABC's commentators.

[MethuenProgressive]

58. Charlie Gibson did not write Obama's mumbled talking points.

Deal with it.

[saltpoint]

60. Turns out, the Obama campaign is dealing with it real well.

It's the Clinton crew who are kitchen-sinking the entire process.

The criticism of ABC in that debate is widespread and genuinely deserved.

[PassingFair]

59. Obama LISTENS to questions, and BEYOND that....

he formulates his answers based on WHO is asking
and what the REAL question IS.

It is a little off-putting at first, but once I
really started listening to him, I find unusual,
to say the least, that he DOESN'T present pat answers.
He doesn't drone on without answering the questions.

I wish I had a quarter of the talent and knowledge
it takes to formulate new answers based on questions
that are sometimes not what they seem.

[MethuenProgressive]

61. George Stehanopolis did not force Obama to give babbling anti-answers.

"off-putting" That's one way to put it...

[barb162]

66. Obama came off stuttering and evasive and lying.

Not a good performance by him.

[PassingFair]

70. No, THIS is what evasive lying looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeQ6dxGMFA

[Lucky 13]

63. I thought he answered everything fine.

He stammered some, but the man just walked into an ambush for gods sake.

I liked his retort to the WeatherUnderground question...
I liked his answer to the flag pin question...
I liked his explaination of capital gains taxes...

What didn't you like?

[gristy]

64. You miss the point. Completely.

Most have criticized the inane questions in the debate in isolation. Regardless of anyone's answers. I know I have.

[Milo_Bloom]

67. The answers were fine, the questions were stupid.

[barb162]

68. Yeah, Obama gave the "answers" and no one else.

If he can't handle ABC and can only handle cloying ass-kissers like Olbermann, he'll have a problem when things get rough.

[dchill]

69. Appropriate answers would have been profane.

[Prophet 451]

71. There's blame on both sides

ABC should be hammered for running a hatchet job (and I was equally pissed when Hillary got the same treatment in earlier debates) but, in fairness, it wasn't Obama's best performance.

[nichomachus]

72. I blame ABC -- I think Obama did the right thing

Candidates come to a debate expecting to talk about the issues. The country is currently standing on a precipice and its soul is in mortal danger.

• We have an economy about to collapse into a mess most Americans have never seen.
  
  
• Oil prices are putting companies out of business and people out of work.
  
  
• We are engaged in an illegal and immoral war that has killed thousands of Americans wounded hundreds of thousands more and killed over a million innocent Iraqis.
  
  
• The war is going to cost $3 trillion -- if you spent $1 million a day, it would take you over 8,000 years to spend that much.
  
  
• Poverty is increasing.
  
  
• People are going hungry.
  
  
• The health care system is in shambles

And yet -- ABC blindsided Obama with questions about his jewelry, something his pastor once said, and other trivia. I'm glad he wasn't prepared to respond to the gossipy garbage. I want my president thinking about the issues that really matter -- not the tabloid trash that ABC focused on. Leave that to the GOP and, unfortunately, Hillary.