HEY!!! Hillary's "Security Umbrella" is the issue

[sandnsea]

What the hell is she saying and why are Democrats buying into the bullshit that she won the debate with this beligerent saber rattling garbage. She is not going to get us out of Iraq or change anything in the ME and these remarks make it crystal clear. Why can Democrats not hear her? Do you think it's a good idea to pit ME countries against each other, with US in the middle of it??

"You can't go to the Saudis or the Kuwaitis or UAE and others who have a legitimate concern about Iran and say: Well, don't acquire these weapons to defend yourself unless you're also willing to say we will provide a deterrent backup and we will let the Iranians know that, yes, an attack on Israel would trigger massive retaliation, but so would an attack on those countries that are willing to go under this security umbrella and forswear their own nuclear ambitions...

Therefore we have got to have this process that reaches out, beyond even who we would put under the security umbrella, to get the rest of the world on our side to try to impose the kind of sanctions and diplomatic efforts that might prevent this from occurring."

[Divernan]

1. There is a damn big, rich, well-organized govt. organization called the European Union

which is more interested in and devoted to peace than Bush's sabre-rattling U.S. Then there are other groups like the United Nations, NATO, etc.

Sounds like Hillary sees herself as LEADER OF THE WORLD - what a frigging megalomaniac!

And of course she can only achieve this at the cost of incredible numbers of U.S. servicemen and women, and further bankrupting our budget. We do not have to be policemen of the world.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. Hillary Strangelove

[quakerboy]

3. That was a determining moment of the debate, I think.

For those with ears, that was a coded "we will be staying in Iraq for the foreseeable future, don't you worry. And if yall really want that Iran war, I'm in it with you."

Ive been wanting to say I would vote for the democratic nominee. But that would prove to be a serious deterrent to me. That and "I lied, but I wont just woman up and move on, instead I will dismiss it and pretend its no big deal."

[sandnsea]

9. The Bosnia lie?

Yeah, that was pretty stunning to me too. She even said she'd have her staff keep an eye on her in the future, "have somebody who, you know, is there as a reminder to me". WTF?? How come this isn't all over the news today. This is downright creepy. A minder to make sure she tells the truth??

[Divernan]

10. As Boswell was to Johnson, as Lieberman is to Bush, so HRC will have someone to follow her around

and rewrite her quotes and whisper into her ear.

[shadowknows69]

4. How about we only give Israel that security umbrella

If they forswear their nuclear weapons program?

[Divernan]

5. Outstanding idea.

[shadowknows69]

7. Why do they need us as a deterrent anymore?

They can incinerate anyone in the area. Oh, that's right, they need us to go toe to toe with Russia and China when they level Tel Aviv.

[SoCalDem]

6. Oh SHIT.. Now we know who she's planning to name for veep..

That creepy guy on tv.... with the big red umbrella..

[shadowknows69]

8. Worse. probably Joe Liberman.

[anonymous171]

11. She plans on out neoconning the neocons.

No wonder Kristol likes her so much.

[kentuck]

12. That was rather scary...

"massive retaliation"? She's going to drop a nuclear weapon on Iran if they attack Saudi Arabia, the people that really attacked us on 9-11? Is she insane? That should have been the story out of the debate.

[Divernan]

13. Where's SoCalDem & her "Raging Ovaries/Hillary" drawing?

[FightingIrish]

14. Has any U.S president or any legitimate presidential candidate

ever publicly uttered the phrase "massive retaliation?

[Bonobo]

15. She is dangerous because she has no moral center. She will go any way that is politically expedient

That is why the polls show that the American people don't find her trustworthy.

[kentuck]

16. Olberman brought this subject up ...

In his discussion with Rachel. It's amazing that the media has not brought this up?? How big of an umbrella does Hillary want?

[Divernan]

17. Whatever Blackwater/Halliburton lobbyists tell her to want.