anger and hatred towards Obama

[JI7]

from what i see much of the anger and hatred towards Obama is based on people thinking he took away what belonged to the Clintons. that he decided to run this year in the first place makes them angry. i think a lot of people are having a tough time getting past just this.

this includes the media which before the voting started had talked about the 2008 campaign with the assumption that the Democratic Nominee would be Hillary Clinton.

that's why you see a lot of talk dismissing some of his biggest supporters. as if Obama's victory to date does not count becacuse it was based on him getting votes from young people and/or black voters. this is the tyhpe of thing Rush Limbaugh and other Republicans say when they always talk about how if you take out a certain group of voters then the other candidate would have won.

look at the desperation in using anything that shows Obama is not perfect as reason he should not be the nominee. never mind that Hillary has had far worse moments and many more such as the Sniper lie, Penn and her husband's Columbia trade support, her not winning any state for weeks.

[Saturday]

1. You mean supporters like Bruce? LOL nt

[ej510]

2. And that is the only reason they hate him because he has been classy throughout this campaign.

[keep_it_real]

3. There is truth in what you say

[ericgtr]

4. Amen - Certain MSM hates him for no other reason than to bring him down

Here you have a man who does not go out of his way to attack others, shows he won't press when issues like snipergate are lobbed at him (last night for example) and rises above it. Here is a very good man that appears bullet proof and for that reason only, people want to shoot at him just to see. Sad.

[samdogmom]

5. Maybe it's because he's somebody we can look up to and respect!

After Dubya--maybe respecting a President is a foreign notion! :shrug:

[Cha]

34. Yeah, maybe the chimp lowered the

bar for some but not me, my fam and friends.

Fate is fate and the clintonistas will have to endure and some of us will be thanking our Lucky Stars that along came Obama.

[dansolo]

36. You have to admit, Bill Clinton lowered it first

While the impeachment was a farce, Bill Clinton did severely tarnish the presidency with the whole Monica Lewinski affair.

[samdogmom]

43. Good grief! We've got an administration that approves of TORTURE! SPYING!...

ROBBING the poor to give to the rich (i.e.: tax cuts for the rich); endless war; editing scientific documents to put the government in a better light (global warming, etc.). Give me a break!!!!!!!

DUBYA wins the prize hands down.

P.S. Clinton's fiasco was unfortunate--but it was "personal" and had no effect on our country.

So now I want you to Contrast and Compare........

[Skidmore]

57. Clinton's personal fiasco did have an effect on the nation.

It cost millions of taxpayer dollars for the Republicans to put on that show, redirected resources from the Justice Department, distracted the focus of the Executive branch from national security issues to this tawdry affair, and added much vitriol to the already highly charged polarized political rhetoric of the nation. It was beyond unfortunate...it was a personal disaster and a national disgrace. The national discord and distress that impeachment process caused contributed to unwillingness of Congress to stand up to Bush.

Clinton has gotten all the pass from the left that his political capital could purchase. He was defended at the time when he really deserved the condemnation, particularly of the same women who so eagerly leap to his defense even now, for his sexual exploitation of an intern in the workplace. For every job I know of in the public sector, such behavior is punishable by firing.

We need to be working on the future, and for some of us that means losing the drama and the distraction of the dysfunctional Clinton-Bush clans. Period. The nation needs to be able clean house and open the windows and doors to let some sunlight and fresh air in.

[Cha]

47. No problem getting an admission from me..

bil just seemed so much better than the alternative but who knew he was taking lessons?

[joeybee12]

6. Ah, more pop psychology!

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, we think he's not qualified??

[pocoloco]

8. No. not after the way he has run his campaign,

that's not a question anymore!!

[joeybee12]

13. Oh yes it is..there's more to being Pres than running a campaign because

Bush ran a better campaign than either Gore or Kerry and he's been the worst president ever. Obama has runa decent campaign, but when he gets into trouble, his glass jaw shows...that's a real concern. Besides, there's nothing in his resume to lead me to believe he would be able to accomplish anything meaningful.

[merh]

20. Hell, hillary can't pay her bills

she can't stop telling lies, she submits to peer pressure and shots whiskey like she is on spring break, she can't control her husband who tries to explain her lies by saying she is old and old folks have bad memories after 11 pm.

She thought she would be the nominee by Feb 5, he campaign hasn't raised enough money to run ads and pay the folks that deserve to be paid, she has/had and advisor that was meeting on issues which allegely she is agains, her husband takes $800,000.00 from the folks that want the trade policies she opposes.....

I could go on, but there is no need as you know in your gut she has failed and failed miserably.

All of the failures are her own, she has made the bad choices, done the stupid things, trusted the wrong people and aligned herself with the wrong folks.

Suck it up, she is the failure and won't be the nominee.

Just imagine if Obama runs his office like he has his campaign how much better off we will be.

[samdogmom]

37. Excuse me....BUSH ran a campaign!!!! Are you kidding?

He had "advisors" paid mega bucks run a campaign for him. END OF STORY!

(In my opinion, he was too busy "working out" to be bothered with the nitty, gritty details of his campaign. He just left it all to his "help".)

[JI7]

18. from what i have seen it's much more than that

it's like some Clinton supporters feel it was wrong for him to run in the first place.

[Yurovsky]

7. & Billary is trying like hell ...

to make sure that if THEY can't have the White House, no Democrat can.

They would prefer to destroy this country, and this party, than to allow anyone with a last name other than "Clinton" to ascend to the highest office in the land (or become the titular head of the party). Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

[Texas Hill Country]

9. ummm, no, your analysis is completely wrong.

[2rth2pwr]

10. Anger and Hatred towards Obama? That can't be, he's the unity candidate.

[Straight Shooter]

11. From what you see.

I had disdain for Obama long before I supported Hillary Clinton. He's a manufactured product, and I ain't buying.

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. And Senator Carpetbagger isn't?

Ha. That's funny.

[Straight Shooter]

21. Drop the namecalling and we'll have a reasonable, civil discourse.

Otherwise, no deal.

[JI7]

23. you called him a manufactured product

[Straight Shooter]

24. LOL. That's a description, not a name.

Anyway, they're all manufactured products. He's merely the most blatantly obvious.

[JI7]

26. carpetbagger is a description also

[Straight Shooter]

29. Spider said "Senator Carpetbagger"

If Spider had said, the carpetbagging Senator, that's different.

I don't call Obama, Mr. Manufactured.

[JI7]

30. ok, Hillary is a Carpetbagging Senator

[Straight Shooter]

31. Ha ha. Let it go. n/t

[CTLawGuy]

45. wow

hair-spliiting much?

[zalinda]

19. You got that right

He knew he wanted to be President when he majored in poly sci in Columbia. Every step he's taken since then has been with that goal in mind, which makes me wonder why he would hook up with such questionable characters, as Wright, Rezco and such.

zalinda

[Straight Shooter]

22. Hooking up with questionable characters

To speed up the process. I think it's called expediency. :D

[JI7]

27. Clintons hook up with Bush's, Scaife, Dick Morris, Mark Penn,

[Phillycat]

56. I feel the same way.

He's a vacuous empty suit, and I ain't buying either.

[BlooInBloo]

12. Yup. They want every Democrat to fail, and to go thru as much as Clinton has....

... Better people would rather that NO Democrat go through what Clinton has gone thru for the last decade - but no DU Clinton supporters! They're genuinely GLEEFUL that another Democrat is treated so shabbily, encourage it, and team with rightwingers to further it.

EDIT: And then like cowards they quickly shove their hands behind their backs and say "not me".

[la la]

14. If I might-

I'd like to take a little left turn here---

how about:

Anger and Hatred toward Clinton on DU?

just wondering.....

[JI7]

16. my anger towards Clinton is for her endorsing McCain over Obama

and other right wing attacks they throw at Obama.

[la la]

25. oh, now...

J17 - in your heart of hearts, you know that isn't true.

While mccain sits back and enjoys THIS schitt. geeze.

[JI7]

28. she said McCain was ready to be PResident and Obama just had a speech

i could understand her saying she is more ready or listing how she is better than him.

but to go and endorse McCain over Obama ???

[la la]

44. that isn't an endorsement,

and you know it.

no f'en way.

nope.

mccain has more experience at being a politician-as nasty as that is--it is true.

this parsing is really becoming unattractive.

:evilfrown:

[earthlover]

48. Parsing? No way! Hillary said plain as day Obama just had a speech!

It requires no parsing of words to make that sound like Obama just had a speech. In fact she said Obama just had a speech! Get it?

She, on the other hand, said McCain had a life time of experience. On another day, she said he was qualified to be Commander in Chief, but Obama....same refrain....just had a speech.

Get. Friggin. Real.

There is only one way to interpret this. McCain is better than Obama in terms of experience and as a commander in chief. If that is not an endorsement vis a vis Obama, what the friggin hell is?

What is it about the liar Hillary who attracts supporters who have difficulty being straight shooters? She said McCain is better commander in chief than Obama. And the Hillary Herd tries to pretend she didn't say it?

Wow what a woman. She says such crap that her supporters have to pretend she didn't say! Why on Earth would we support such a crap shooter?

[sandnsea]

51. Oh gosh, got a month or two?

Where to begin. Saying student voting in Iowa is illegal. Saying Obama's "present" votes indicate lack of support of choice. The multitude of racial remarks from her campaign. Constantly saying any state she hasn't won doesn't count. Losing the delegates in Texas, but continuing with the race even though she previously said she had to win Texas. Whining about sexism any time she gets challenged by the media.

And then there's her position on Iraq, Iran, NAFTA, health care, social security....

[bain_sidhe]

17. Where?!? Where?!?

I've entirely missed it!

Ok, to be serious, it's a fraction of the "anger and hatred" I see directed at Clinton here.

EVEN THOUGH I mostly lean Obama, the vitriol directed at Clinton in this forum makes me want to vomit.

[Bluebear]

32. Show me a thread that says "I **HATE** Obama!!!!11"

Must everything be about "hate" if people aren't thrilled about a candidate? I am not wild about either Obama or Clinton but I don't "hate" them!

[knixphan]

33. If I had a nickel

...for every Hill supporter who says with a straight face:

"I have nothing against him, he just needs 8 more years to get some experience..."

I'd be rich.

[Window]

35. He has class...unlike Hillary the Liar.

[PBS Poll-435]

46. Which column do you think you belong in by saying that?

Claasy or Not So Classy...

[Window]

55. Your parameters are not mine. I belong in the Truthful column.

Why is it you can say anything you desire about Sen. Obama and no one can say anything about St. Hillary. Please.

[PBS Poll-435]

58. It is opposite day?

I don't say the base vacuous things that you do, for sure.

[Window]

61. Right.

:rofl:

[Bonobo]

38. MEOWW!

Mostly embittered older white women.

[Olney Blue]

39. I don't understand how Dems can HATE one of their candidates.

[BlooInBloo]

41. Nobody hates Democrats like Clinton supporters.

[Olney Blue]

42. I'm a Hillary supporter. And I sure as hell don't hate Obama. WTF?

[Two Americas]

52. insane, isn't it?

It is reaching a fever pitch. Every single thing the OP accuses "Clinton supporters" of doing more accurately describes Obama supporters, but I would think that even an Obama fan, were they to be honest, would admit that the hatred is coming from both sides - at the very least.

[knixphan]

49. check out this blog homepage

from a 'democrat' woman.

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[Olney Blue]

50. Wow. That's disgusting.

[lumberjack_jeff]

54. Me either. I don't get it - at all.

Both candidates have the capacity for doing great good.

[cooolandrew]

40. It's obscene that anyone says it's not anyones turn. The people decide and then it's their turn..

Democracy comes form the word people, they can be young or old various education levels but all count or it is not democracy. So yeah I agree.

[knixphan]

53. wait...you mean We? -- The People?

We can decide?

lol - Why didn't somebody write that down, like in a document or something?

And if such a document exists, why don't all the democrats know about it?

[IndianaJones]

59. I just think he has rather successfully pandered to tons of bigots. nt.

[dchill]

60. "...successfully pandered to tons of bigots. "

Hmmm. I wonder which candidate that REALLY describes. Hmmmm.