DU admins: I post publically to plead with you....

[Hawkeye-X]

that we move from GD-P to GD-GE as soon as PA primaries are over. By process of elimination, if Hillary cannot get past the 18% benchmark in the PA primary (where she has to win by that much), then it is virtually over for Hillary. Pelosi already let us know that the SD will not override the will of the delegates, and we all know Obama has been leading the delegate race by over 140. Therefore, Obama will be the eventual nominee, and I'm sure Howard Dean will have a plan in place by the NC/IN primaries to ensure that whoever is leading after the PA primaries will be the nominee.

I would like to see some sense of civility back on this board - it has been a long primary and if we let it continue past April, I'm not even sure if I want to continue with DU.

Dean is already urging the SD's to pick now - he doesn't want to wait too long, and I agree with his stance on that. I suggest we do the same.

Hawkeye-X

[TML]

1. Good call

It's time to move past this and concentrate on McCain.

[flvegan]

2. Let the screaming commence. Popcorn .50 a tub.

:popcorn:

[L0oniX]

21. Share some...

:popcorn:

[flvegan]

26. Plenty of room here on the couch. Salt?

:popcorn:

[cliffordu]

35. Yep, Xtra butter, please!!!

:popcorn:

Can I get a beer, too??

:beer:

[flvegan]

38. Absolutely. Light or high octane?

[cliffordu]

39. Gimme the bad, bad, bad stuff!!

:headbang:

[L0oniX]

36. ...and butter please.

:bounce:

[AspenRose]

43. I want parmesan on mine.

:popcorn:

[BlooInBloo]

48. I kan haz popcorn plz?

[flvegan]

57. Enjoy!

I think we're just getting started.

[DevonRex]

3. I second or third that or whatever the number is by the time

I get through writing this.

[pettypace]

4. I disagree respectfully

Hill is still pulling a large number of Dem votes, so she's entitled to stay in the race until she is defeated handily.

If Barack wins PA by 5 to 10 points, I withdraw my objection.

[2rth2pwr]

5. Get lost.

[Yael]

6. DU needs to stay neutral

Sorry, I disagree. That is what makes this site unique.

NC and IN are only a few weeks out from PA. If we don't seal it, they will and then it is a given.

:hi:

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. Fully agree. n/t

[mckeown1128]

62. I wasn't here in 04... when did DU decide that Kerry was the nominee..

because it is my understanding that certain candidates stayed in for quite a while??

[jefferson_dem]

7. I agree.

After PA it will be time to unite behind our nominee.

We are the Democratic Underground.

[smiley_glad_hands]

8. Yes, lets bring an end to GDP. Woot. Give me my sanity back.

This place is swarming.

[cbayer]

9. What are you afraid of?

If you would like to see some sense of civility back on this board, behaving in a civil manner and challenging those that don't is probably the most effective way to go.

[Hawkeye-X]

11. I've been challenging almost every Hillary supporters for the last 4 months

for proof and facts, and they can't even back their woman up with evidence.

So it's long past time that DU moves on to the GE so we can prepare to eviscerate McCain easily.

[cbayer]

27. If its civility you want, I challenge you to challenge some of the Obama supporters.

I'm a Clinton supporter and an Obama supporter. I think both camps do a pretty lousy job of backing up their assertions with evidence. I also think that the lack of civility is a problem in both camps.

Since the platforms and records of our two candidates are virtually identical and starkly different from McCain's, what is to prevent us from eviscerating McCain now?

[ima_sinnic]

22. nobody's "afraid" of anything--it is simply a waste of time

she's already lost, so why are we even talking about her? we don't argue about whether Biden or Kucinich is better than Obama, or Edwards, so why should we be talking about her? I don't even think of her as a "candidate" anymore. she was voted off the island some time ago.

[cbayer]

31. We don't talk about Biden, Edwards or Kucinich because they are no longer in the race.

Clinton is still in the race. As bad as Obama supporters want it to be so, he hasn't won yet. She has by no means been voted off the island. That may happen and it may happen soon, but it most assuredly has not happened yet.

Let the people have their say.

If you think it's a waste of time and no longer see Clinton as a candidate, don't bother with gd:p. Leave it to those who still feel there is a primary going on.

It's democracy and that's the way I like it.

[Ronnie]

52. "Let the people have their say."

Absolutely. Anyone who doesn't want as many people as possible to weigh in on this, is just not a true Democrat. I don't care what it says on your voter registration.

[cbayer]

59. There is something vaguely familiar about this.

Oh yeah, I remember! It was 2000! Remember the rush to a decision when the outcome wasn't clear? Yeah, that's it.

[smalll]

63. I think they may be afraid of this guy -

Mr. Electable.

[cbayer]

64. Quite possibly.

I don't think he wants the job, however. I do sense that there is a lot of fear of the super delegates in general.

BTW, that's a great picture. Did you see him on 60 minutes recently. He is really a good guy and should have been our president.

[Buzz Clik]

10. No. This place remains DU's sewer until she drops.

[Bluebear]

13. 'I would like to see some sense of civility back on this board ' - LOL

[lumberjack_jeff]

... and the only way I can think to do that is summary execution of dissidents. n/t

[JoFerret]

49. They need to silenced

Hillary is not a democrat. She is a fascist.
Her supporters need to be exterminated. Purged. Sent to the gulag of Freeperdom where they belong.

[UALRBSofL]

23. After the PA Primary, both candidates will be in the race

So I suppose I'll have to go somewhere else if the Clinton Supporters are censored and can't be excited and get behind her going into the other primaries. It would be saying, even though your candidate is still in the race, you can't post anything about her on DU. The person who started this post is suggesting a Marxist type control of DU much like saying the elite know what's best for the underlings. This should give everyone an idea what were dealing with when people post open threads like this.

[PBS Poll-435]

14. Wow

Why don't you let the process work itself out?

Why do you hate the rules and procedures of the Democratic Party?

The arrogance of it all, and under the guise of a desire for civility.



...I'm not even sure if I want to continue with DU.

Because it isn't like you aren't in GDP daily stirring the pot.

[jdlh8894]

20. The arrogance of it all

Is that to be confused w/elitism?

[PBS Poll-435]

32. Huh?

The OP's devastatingly-sad plea for civility (by eliminating discussion) was transparent and arrogant.

[mudesi]

15. Should've happened 6 weeks ago (nm)

[ima_sinnic]

16. I totally agree--it is like playing the best 3 out of 5, then continuing to play

"just in case" the other person wins the 4th and 5th--to what end?

many Hillary worshippers seem like nasty "gotcha" 5th-graders whose obvious distortions are just fodder for fights. There is no sense in pretending that "she has a chance," because she doesn't. it's merely All About Hillary, 24/7, that is the only reason she stays in, for the attention and to do damage to Obama, for some unfathomable reason, because supposedly they are on the same team, and it is beyond embarrassing to see someone become the Katherine Harris slow-motion train wreck of the Democratic Party.

[JoFerret]

17. Pathetic

.

[bigwillq]

18. Let the people vote

All the people.

I fully agree that it appears in all likely hood that Obama will be the nominee but let people vote. Let him clinch the nomination. It took B. Clinton 48 states to clinch the nomination and the repuke's already had their nominee (GHWB).

Having this drawn out race, imo, isn't going to hurt the eventual nominee...it's some of the tactics that might, and you can blame HRC for a lot of that but until Obama seals the deal, the race isn't over.

[ima_sinnic]

19. you're free to vote for whomever you want--what about those of us

who supported Kucinich? gee, maybe he should have stayed in until August. :eyes:

[bigwillq]

28. I voted for DK.

And proud of it. No DK should'nt have stayed in b/c he was way too far behind. But Obama hasn't officially wrapped it up yet either. There is still a chance for Clinton to win. Yes, a longshot but you're this far in..you have to stay in just a bit longer.

[flvegan]

42. This is an excellent post.

:thumbsup:

[bigwillq]

51. Thanks!

:hi:

[flvegan]

56. Calls 'em like I sees 'em.

You really nailed it.

[PresidentObama]

24. Great idea!!

[K Gardner]

25. Should have been done long ago.

[MoonRiver]

29. Unbelievable.

You appear to have as much disrespect for this country's democracy as Repukes. I certainly hope DU mods don't agree with you. If they do I will be out of here pronto.

[catnhatnh]

30. I must rabidly disagree....

and I say this as an Obama supporter.I will fight,I will mock, and I will snark, but I WILL not advocate the stifling of Democratic voices.We have a senior party leadership for a reason and they assure us this divisiveness will end soon.I will never agree to throw out a single democrat-less one of conviction-to gain a more harmonius chorus...I want HER gone, not her supporters.

[proud2BlibKansan]

33. Couldn't agree more

:patriot:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

34. LOLLLLLLLLLLL. How bizarre...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfJe8hQ8ha0&feature=related

[depakid]

37. As much as I've liked some of your posts -the whinging isn't flattering

Indeed, it's quite the opposite.

Go out and fight for the remaining primaries- take the hits- give 'em back and let's see where it takes us.

[NashVegas]

40. If It's Civility You Want, Take Responsibility For Your Own End of It

Instead of attempting to shut down a group of people who happen to disagree with you, while the contest is still on.

[Hepburn]

50. The contest was over a long time ago.

Why the hell do you think some Democrats are so angry? Hillary is absolutely destroying the party and the worst part of that is she is helping McCain become president. Frankly, I think that is her true aim ~~ make John McCain president...because with his age, I doubt if he makes it to the end of his term. She is looking at 2012. This is a women ~~ no matter what the cost to anyone else ~~ who will not be denied. What she wants is the most important thing in her life.

You who support Hillary are NOT part of the solution, but are the ultimate problem. She needs to go ~~ if you care about the Democratic Party, do us all a favor and see that she quits ASAP.

And, no, I have not always supported Obama. I supported Kucinich and then Edwards...so please don't come back with some inane Obama Kool Aid remark.

JMHO

[NashVegas]

53. Barack Obama Got 2024 Delegates? Damn, No One Told Me!

I feel so out of it.

[totodeinhere]

41. I wish that DU would get on the Obama bandwagon like most other progressive sites have.

But it's Skinner's web site, not mine. So obviously it's his call.

[rodeodance]

44. Dean is an idiot.

[rug]

45. Why?

[apocalypsehow]

55. Why not?

[JoFerret]

46. And DU matters because???

It has an impact on the GE?

I don't get your issue here.

[crankychatter]

47. If DU-P were a Democracy... it would REALLY suck

Here's to tyranny and my ignore function

[BlueJac]

54. I like it.......

:popcorn:

[Stinky The Clown]

58. You want civility? Hahahaha Tell your posse to start acting like civil people

And don't call me a Clinton supporter. That would be stupid on your part. BOTH camps hate my ass cuz I don't like either one of them.

[cbayer]

61. That's funny. They hate my ass because I like both of them.

:toast:

[Arkansas Granny]

60. As far as the sense of civility, that could be accomplished if each person here wanted it.

The anonymity of this message board makes it very easy for some posters to say some really vile things about the candidates and other posters. If we all acted like grownups, we could have civility now regardless of how the nomination process takes.

As far as the SD votes, I don't think that Pelosi, Dean or anyone else can say for sure how they are going to pledge and whether it will be with the popular vote or not. They are in place to vote their conscience for the candidate that they feel has the best chance to win the election. I'm in favor of letting it play out before assuming which candidate will be the eventual nominee.

[GoldieAZ49]

65. LOL

just name him POTUS cuz the GE is going to go on sooooooooooo long and we want our bama


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