Howard Dean

[skyounkin]

tells supers to make decision now......

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/17/20555/1974/380/497968

Sorry it's linked to the DailyKos, I haven't found it anywhere else yet....

I hope this isn't a duplicate thread, and if it is I'm sorry.

Edited to add the perma link- Thank you Crispini!!

[chimpymustgo]

1. Dean needs to figure out Florida and Michigan and let the SD's take their damn time.

[skyounkin]

2. No-

FL and MI broke the rules- sucks to be them, but they will be seated AFTER the supers make their decision.

Enough is freaking enough!

[Writer]

11. Florida did not deliberately break the rules.

The Republican legislature moved up the date. They had no choice.

[MaineDem]

20. Not to drag up old discussions but FL did break the rules

And the FL Dem Party didn't act in good faith to prevent the Legislature from passing the new date.

It's all in the archives here.

[MercutioATC]

21. Well, not exactly. The Dems floated a bill to change the date back...

...and then laughed about it, saying that they would use it to "prove" to the DNC that they tried.

Had they really objected to the date, the DNC would have bent over backwards to find a solution. They mocked the party and got caught.

[dansolo]

22. The bill was sponsored by a Democrat

And the Democrats voted almost unanimously for it. If the Democrats put up even a token effort to block it without joking about it, they wouldn't have been sanctioned. This cannot be pinned on the Republicans.

[madfloridian]

23. Hell, yes, they did. And Hillary Clinton is using FL and MI as tools.

She has a lot of nerve.

Don't get me started.

[donheld]

25. Stop your lying

you've been around DU enough to know better.

[L0oniX]

3. There's no more argument about Obama being able to beat McPain since Hillary said...

"Yes yes ..yes he can".

[midnight]

4. Should we make this decsion now? I thought it was best to

let it work itself out, but I guess the doctor knows best.

[phrigndumass]

5. Daily Kos is an excellent source. Thanks!

:hi:

[skyounkin]

7. you are welcome!!

Still trying to find it elsewhere.....

[Shae]

27. find it elsewhere at ...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/17/dean-i-need-a-decision-now/

I also saw it on jedreport.com

[Hawkeye-X]

8. Ah there you are.. was looking for your Huckabee index

Wish it was down significantly, but hopefully it'll go below 50 after PA.

Hawkeye-X

[phrigndumass]

10. Hucknumber is down 10 from Monday morning

Was 74 on Monday, now 64. :woohoo:

[skyounkin]

12. Huckabee

index?.....uhm.....I'm sorry I have no idea what that refers too....

[phrigndumass]

16. Info on Huckabee Index =)

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/phrigndumass

(last updated Monday morning)

:patriot:

[skyounkin]

17. ohhhh

Neat!!

GObama!!!

[crispini]

6. Permalink here

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/17/20555/1974/380/497968

:hi:

[skyounkin]

9. Ohhh coool!! Thank you!

I still get lost on all the "internets" without a map. Heh

[Fyddlestyx]

13. On CNN...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/17/dean-i-need-a-decision-now/

[skyounkin]

14. Ohhhhh

Thank you too!!

:hi:

[Fyddlestyx]

15. You're welcome!

:hi:

[Kurovski]

18. Lucky#5

Off to the greatest...

[Kurovski]

19. Off topic, but I like the sound of this from the CNN link...

"An increasingly firm Howard Dean..."

[Kurovski]

24. Kick. (nt)

[DemBones DemBones]

26. The DNC needs to fire Howard Dean, petty tyrant.

He is saying the nomination must be decided before the convention, which is absurd. He has no right to order this.

Equally absurd is his denying the votes of every Dem who voted in Florida or Michigan because their states broke the new DNC rules.

:wtf: were individual Dems in Florida and Michigan supposed to do?

Wait until Super Tuesday to go to the polls? The polls were not going to be open then. Their only option was to vote when the polls were open, or to vote absentee, and either way, by Dean's new rules, their vote isn't being counted.

The voters are being cheated because Howie can't stand it when he doesn't get his way.

This nomination will be unfairly decided, no matter who ultimately wins, unless ALL the votes are counted.

[Gore1FL]

28. I thought drugs were illegal...

He is the best damn DNC chair in my lifetime, and I am sadly reminded everyday, it is pretty long.

If you have an issue with FL and MI delegates, wirte a letter to the Clinton campaign c/o HArold Ickes and ask him why he voted to strip those states of their delegates..

Dean did not make such a vote.

Know the facts before you start arbitrarily throwing blame around.

[skyounkin]

29. Sorry-

not going to happen- he is directly responsible for the Democratic majority in both the house and the senate. Florida and Michigan BROKE THE RULES ON PURPOSE, then Hillary and Barack both agreed not to campaign in either state- Yet she was on the ballot in Fl.

Dean needs to enforce the rules to be respected- he is in charge and he needs to regulate.

It's sad if they didn't jump the gun in the primaries their states would have mattered BIG TIME!!