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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:30 PM
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Let's be honest, anything less than a 10 point win in PA for Hillary is a loss....
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 10:34 PM by KansasVoter
She was up 26 points 5 weeks ago!!!

If she wins PA by 10 or less it will really hurt her need to gain popular votes.

Also, with the way the congressional districts work she might only pick up about 10 delegates.

She will whine about being out spent but that just points out how Obama supporters are a lot more willing to donate to him than Hillary supporters are. And the Super Delegates know raising money is important.

Some Hillary talking head was on Hardball tonight and said if Hillary wins by 1 vote it is a big win. I wonder if internal polling is showing bad news for them if they are trying to spin that crap.



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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:33 PM
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1. Who knows? Hillary moves the goal posts or tries to change the rules almost daily.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 10:33 PM by Bensthename
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gokansas Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:44 PM
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2. True!!!
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terrell9584 Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:48 PM
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3. Except that
She is going to win by substantial margins in Kentucky, and Kentucky is a state where local politics is controlled at the Democratic level (or read as, if you don't vote as a Democrat, in many counties, you forfeit a sheriff's vote)

Count that for West Virginia too. Short of an endorsement from Robert Byrd, Obama will just get rocked there. It may not be enough votes to overcome the current deficit, but the margins in those two states are going to be fairly lopsided against Obama, and these are primaries.

It is theoretically possible for Clinton to get above 70% in both states, and that is astounding. We know that WV goes Clinton in a general and we know that Kentucky is at least in play, meaning there is a real following there. Of course, in theory Obama should do well in North Carolina, and that theory involves him running up the vote in black areas and the Triangle. If his vote in the Triangle is not as strong as expected then his margin might be cut. I don't see North Carolina providing a large enough margin to negate Kentucky and West Virginia, where people are pissed and will vote.

I agree that she needs to do well in PA, but I do think there are variables that we don't know about. It's a long way from being over
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:49 PM
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4. Frankly she needs to win by 50%
to even get close to enough delegates to get back in it.
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