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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:00 AM
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This race has gone long enough.
No I am not going to listen to BS about "EVERYONE NEEDS TO VOTE" or "FL AND MI NEED TO BE SEATED AS IS"

You know what no..

no

NO!

Look at this forum! Look on the news! We are tearing each other apart! We have strayed so far on the issues we are talking about candidates scratching an itch to mean something else!!

Do you not see what is going on here? Do you not see how strained things have become? How we have more and more people actually considering McCain now? How Congressional races are being all but ignored due to massive coverage on the race and nonstop pundit action on words that have nothing to due to with issues?

This has got to stop yall! It is more than Obvious that every inch of every issue between the two has been debated and taken apart so many times that they rarely get talked about anymore. Ya sure they appear in speeches and late in debates. But America seems to be talking more about how flaps and mistakes in speech then issues that will affect THEM!!

This is EXACTLY what McCain and the republicans want!! They want a GE that is filled with bullcrap to distract people away from the fact that McCain is a flip flopping war monger.

So I ask you all to think about what possible good this going to the end or even to the Convention. And Compare that to the stunning horror that things have gotten so bad that right wing talk shows can define the topic in our primary!

This needs to end. Let PA vote but I call upon Senator Clinton to seriously consider exiting if she does not seriously cut in Obama's pledged delegate lead.

Please Clinton.. Don't take this to the 6th and beyond. Help us unite the party so we can win againt the republicans! Be the one who pushes democrats to victory!!!
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:04 AM
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1. Obama could drop out and end your suffering
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:06 AM
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2. Um no... Take your crap elseware
Leads in delegates
States won
Popular vote
Polls

Only a desperate part of the supports for Clinton for president can post such junk. And I am calling it. Crap like that is harming democrats and it needs to stop.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:29 AM
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10. I've been a Democrat for 40 years, and you "calling it" does not end campaigns
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:59 AM
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19. Calling your crap. Not the campaign.
And the years you have been a dem mean little to me. No entitlement sorry.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:24 AM
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22. Wow, since 1968? So I can blame you for our losing streak?
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:14 AM
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3. Which is what the candidate mathematicallly assured of victory usually does.
:eyes:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:17 AM
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4. He's not "mathematicallly assured of" squat. Your math is wack, just like your candidate.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:36 AM
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12. Oh, noes, my candidate is "wack" (sic)
Damn, dog, dat's a hard dissin'.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:44 AM
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14. Are you suggesting my hip hop career will tank?
;)
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:20 AM
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5. It's gone on too long.
I'm sick of both of them.

I'll vote for our nominee in the GE, I just wish it wasn't either of them.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:21 AM
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6. Sorry about your luck zach.
This is much bigger than you and your wants.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:45 AM
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15. Yes it is bigger than me. It has to do with democrats winning come november.
But I guess that gets in the way of the fantasy of Clinton swooping into the convention and wooing the super delegates away from the pledged delegates.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:22 AM
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7. So... we should select our candidate by mob rule?
Exactly what is wrong with counting all of the votes?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:26 AM
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9. Hillary was all for counting the votes
when she laid all her eggs in "SUPER TUESDAY"?
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:24 AM
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8. Let all people vote and have their votes be counted. yes.. yes YES!
Tis not all bout you.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:33 AM
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11. Funny how these calls for Hillary to drop come when Obama supporters start to feel doubt.
"The BS about everyone needs to vote!" They get scared when they see that Hillary could be going in

to the convention with Big MO and the aura of a winner.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:42 AM
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13. Remember, his poker style is to bluff and get opponents with good cards to fold
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:57 AM
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17. I dont play poker thank you.
And your point is silly. There is no hidden details. Clinton has to win every state from this point forward by over 60 percent to even approach a tie with Obama.

Desperate Clinton Supporters are hoping they can spring a scandal on Obama to try to keep him from reducing leads in places such as West Virginia and Kentucky. What they do not care is the simple point that new Clinton scandals are being exposed at a semi-regular rate by Democrats which PALES compared to the massive research done by republicans for almost a decade. So this anything to win attitude is doing NOTHING but harming democrats overall.

They do not want to talk issues anymore because Obama is kicking ass on issues. They are trying to slime Obama and it is failing. Just judging by recent topics about donations and the graphic on the front page Obama is likely pulling in more money than he did in March. So the slimeball tactics are casuing people to donate.

I guarantee you that if Obama was down by Over 100 he would be under extreme pressure to exit. He would be called a spoiler and support would fall out. As he does not have the machine.

Tho I am not just blaming Clinton supporters. Some Obama supporters have also gone to levels of stupidity that do nothing but harm the party... They need to stop! Terms like Hillbot or whatever other nicknames do not help.

So overall we got this clusterfuck of a race where you got democrats attacking democrats and making things perfect for republicans. So if you want to treat it like a game.. go ahead... America means more to me than some egofest.

Senator Clinton I urge you to Consider Exiting the race after the Primary. For the future of the democratic party.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:48 AM
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16. Yes, since Obama can't win without superdelegates, he should bow out now.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:58 AM
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18. In case you have not noticed he is gaining superdelegates
At current rates he will be ahead in superdelegates by around mid may.

Calls for him to bow out when he is the leader sound so silly it is pathetic in my view.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:14 AM
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20. Democrats in 2000 "Count every vote"
Obama in 2008 "Quit counting the votes"
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:23 AM
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21. Stop Slandering Obama. He has never said that
It is us who say that Clinton needs to exit.

But that gets in the way of the fantasy I guess.
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