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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:53 AM
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The root causes of this latest Obama dust up. Please bear with me.
In the last few days it seems that he can't do anything without someone in the media finding fault in word or action. Now I will admit that he did not help himself with his own admitted "mangling" of the SF comments, but I pose the reason for the debate set-up, Ayers and now maybe finger-gate and/or brush-off-gate (new one from Joe S.). Notice that NONE of these issues are policy related they are all character assassination type things.

There were 2 news items that came up late last week regarding Obama that did not get much press but you bet it got press amongst certain circles:

1. Obama reviewing the Bush administration in regards to the war and torture if he is the POTUS.

2. Obama suggesting that shareholders have a say in CEO's pay.

What I think is happening is corrupt politicians (mostly Republicans) and big business are frightened out of their ass that someone is even suggesting these topics. Now Kucinich, Edwards and others have talked along similar language with regards to these issues but none them have been as close to the holy grail (POTUS) as Obama is now where he could have an effect. Clinton was asked about reviewing the administration to which she never came anywhere close to that; she knows the game.

As I have said before as an Obama supporter I have no problems with attacks on policy, Wright and "bitter" were legitimate questions. However, Ayers is not as it is a 12-time meeting of the two in a board room where the company was helping and assisting with impoverished people. We must all be un-patriotic as most Americans don't wear flag pins; another nonsensical issue.

My only issue with the Clintons in all this is that they were at one time at the brunt of these character assassination type attacks. Instead of deflecting these issues from a fellow democrat they have decided to embrace them and USE them. I can't help but wonder if it was another DLC member would they allow these attacks to persist.

I hope EVERYONE here is seeing that how this country is truly corrupted by big business and the media.


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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:55 AM
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1. yea and they will just install mcain anyway, what a nightmare
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:20 AM
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5. ....but remember...
in the Democratic primary--voter turnout is up 100 percent . Republican
turnout is flat, and in some states--has decreased from 2004.

This is totally unprecedented in our nation's history. Never has a party doubled
voter turnout, from the previous election cycle.

The Republicans are shitting bricks--because they see these numbers.

Each year, the Republicans play their dirty disenfranchising tricks with the elections.
They create long lines in Dem-heavy areas. The screw with the voter rolls and they
mess with the voting machines. They figure they can screw around about 7 percent--which
is enough to win the election--but not enough to get caught.

With a 100 percent increase in turnout on the Dem side---the Republicans know they can't
steal it.

Make no mistake--they're in absolute panic mode. They don't want to run against Obama and
they damn well know that he's the one driving the 100 percent increase--not Hillary Clinton.

The media is also sitting on this story. State after state, they don't mention this 100 percent
increase--which is evidence of a coming revolution! That was the biggest story out of the Iowa
caucuses---that 2004 was a record year for Dem turnout, but it increased 100 percent.

It's so mindblowing...so amazing for the Dems. Yet, the media is ignoring the revolution, and
in effect--is trying to blunt it.

They can't win this time around. With Obama as our nominee--there's just no way in hell. Disenfranchised
Republicans will cross over. Seventy percent of Americans want to end this war. They're sure as hell
not voting for McCain.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:09 AM
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8. We're doomed! DOOMED!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:56 AM
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2. I would not be surprised if that had something to do with it
The corprats control everything.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 AM
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3. Everyone needs to read this....it's absolutely true!
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 08:13 AM by TwoSparkles
You are so right.

This is a fight between TRUE PROGRESSIVES vs the DLC/neocon faction of our party who are in bed with 90 percent of
the Republicans who are neocons. Together, those factions have nearly engulfed our democracy. The gross mutation is
almost complete.

Obama is emerging as the candidate who can actually take on these bastards. You're right, he is
revealing more--about his willingness to investigate BushCo, review torture, and serve "We The People",
and not corporate America.

I find the timing of his revelations, very significant. He didn't start out the primary saying these
things, but he is slowly revealing what a revolutionary he is---and what a revolutionary leader he will be.
I imagine that if he had started out of the gate--swinging like a Progressive and making it clear that he
will dismantle the neocon game plan--they would have destroyed him or worked even harder to thwart his
Presidential run.

This is what we've been waiting for. This is the President who can stop the neocons in their tracks. I
had seriously given up hope.

I'll tell you what shifted it for me. When I saw Lieberman out last week--piling on Obama, I knew. The
elite establishment--the bastards who despise "We The People" and want to implement their PNAC plan and turn
this democracy into something from the movie "V For Victory"---are all against Obama.

Obama's time in the U.S Senate was spent on the periphery. He didn't roll himself into the inner workings of
DC. He opted to spend a lot of time alone. He didn't play the game. However, he was there long enough to
see what was going on--and he decided to do something about it. I also believe that Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle and
other Dem stalwarts saw exactly what was happening, and they knew Hillary was a part of it. They decided that
Obama would be the "electable one" who could be the President--working in tandem with the party stalwarts--to
end this nightmare.

One thing that has always intrigued me, is Obama practically hiding the fact that he is a Constitutional Scholar.
He taught Con Law, and other law classes for a decade. He damn well knows what they've been doing to our
Constitution. He knows the Constitution inside and out. You gotta know that he's outraged---about thousands of
abuses against our Constitution. Part of his "Plan For America" is restoring Habeas Corpus. He gets it.

I think Progressives really need to let this sink in--that Obama is the one we've been waiting for. He
is on the side of "We The People" and that is significant, because there aren't many politicians left, who
actually are.




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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:26 AM
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6. We don't hear much from the GOP critizing Hillary anymore
perhaps only on snipergate
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:17 AM
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4. Thank you. Great points.
The "powers-that-be," i.e., The Bush Crime Family and the Corporations who back them (includes the GOP Corporate Media) are SCARED of an Obama nomination.

It's not a slam-dunk for McCain and they know it.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:47 PM
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9. ok now i have gone from -%10 faith/hope to +20....thanks
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:49 PM
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10. I think that's why they're being so brazen.
They're getting truly worried.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:08 AM
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7. Watching the media circus I've reached this conclusion:
The person who will become president, will have this one trait: He or she will develop a strong following that will help him or her fight the battles that the media-corporation giants throw in his or her path. No one can make it through a campaign without misspeaking now and then. Even the "Dukakis" moment, though silly, wouldn't have been a big deal if he had cultivated enough of a following to roar away the criticism.

Obama is an intelligent man. We are also internet saavy and quick. As long as he doesn't do something fatal, and as long as he continues to get public support, he has as good a chance as any to fight the corporate controlled media moguls.
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