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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:53 AM
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Hillary Hammers China Trade, While Bill takes $1.25M from Chinese Business
Oh the irony...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/18/hillary-hammers-china-tra_n_97385.html
hroughout the campaign, but more so recently, Sen. Hillary Clinton has tried to tap into voter resentment over domestic job loss by leveling heavy criticism at China.

"Right here, over 200 Hoosiers built parts that guided our military's smart bombs to their targets. They were good jobs, but now they have gone to China," she says in an advertisement airing this week in Indiana. "George Bush could have stopped it. As your president I will fight to keep good jobs here, and to turn this economy around."

But while the spot may reflect legitimate skepticism of past trade agreements, the issue of China is touchy terrain for Clinton to tread on. As observers note, Clinton's viewpoints with respect to China have 'evolved' from her time as first lady, when she occasionally touted the benefits of trade with the emerging Asian market. She still was skeptical back then, they say, just less so.

Moreover, her recent remarks put her at odds with the position of her husband, whose philosophical and financial ties to the issue of trade with China are immense.

Indeed, since leaving the White House, the former president, according to a review of his records, has earned $1.25 million for six speaking engagements from Chinese businesses and forums. Three of these events were hosted by a Hong Kong-based private investment firm, one by a private real estate company, another by a spirits manufacturer, and another by a group that facilitates business-leader dialogue. On several occasions, according to the Clinton Foundation website, Bill Clinton touted the benefits of an open economic relationship between American and China...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:54 AM
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1. Hillary VOTED FOR the China MFN free trade bill!
It's her years and years and years and years of experience that made her make that decision.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:55 AM
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2. No hypocrisy here. When will the m$m call her/them on this? nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:07 AM
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9. MSNBC covered it last week, but lo and behold, Bittergate erupted
Watch this report - it's just the tip of the iceberg but it would have gotten the dialogue going if only Bittergate hadn't usurped everything.


WATCH LISA MYERS' REPORT ON THE CLINTONS' SHADY FINANCES!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24063294#24063294

More info:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5538890
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:55 AM
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3. If Its this bad over a primary race. Think about what the republicans will do in the GE...
And the supers understand that. Clinton has no room to maneuver!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:57 AM
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4. They are a joke
We defended them forever. That is over now. They have proven to be every bit as disgusting as the RW made them out to be.

I would be willing to bet bills income sinks this year aftert all of his bullshit.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:03 AM
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5. The Lincoln bedroom was used as official Chinese bank depository
for the Clintons.



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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:28 AM
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13. And probably helped (in the end) to secure the Iraq War Funding
that we'll be paying for through our great grandchildren.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:04 AM
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6. Please! There are other, more pressing issues on the table!
Why do you and your pastor hate America?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:05 AM
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7. Understand that they are MINOs and this will all make sense
Everyone talks and acts as if Bill and Hillary are a married couple. Puh-leeze.

They are MINOs -- married in name only. I suspect they haven't been a "married couple," as most of us know it, since sometime after the first bimbo eruption -- and definitely not since Monica and her "little blue dress."

He is an egotistical politician with his own agenda. She is an egotistical politician with her own agenda. At certain points their agendas overlap, but at many other points they don't.

I imagine they stay "married" because their pollsters and focus group leaders tell them that is more advantageous than divorce. But all you have to do is look at Bill's "loose-cannon" campaigning to tell that they are not in sync in this effort at all.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:05 AM
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8. if she will wear a flag pin (made in China) everything will be ok
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:10 AM
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10. How can Obama call her out on this if he supports the same trade policy?
He can't even call her out for hypocrisy, as criticizing someone else for advocating the exact same trade policies as Obama espouses is in itself hypocrisy...
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:27 AM
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11. It's the hypocrisy -- the Clintonian good cop-bad cop
They're making it on both ends. That's the problem. She profits from opposing something. Bill profits from promoting it.

Sort of like the Vatican telling bishops to cover up pedophilia cases and then Benny the Rat coming to the US and crying crocodile tears over it.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:28 AM
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12. Don't forget Alibaba, the Chinese Co. that replaced Yahoo.
Undisclosed amounts to the Clinton Foundation.

Bill Clinton lied when he said he was unaware of Shi Tao's jailing.

Bill Clinton brushed aside a similar opportunity to address China's jailing of dissidents when he spoke at the conference hosted by Alibaba in 2005. Days before his appearance, two prominent rights groups, Human Rights in China and Reporters Without Borders, asked Clinton to raise Internet freedom issues during his speech and address the plight of Shi Tao, a Chinese writer arrested in 2004 after Yahoo's China operation provided state security authorities with private Internet data.

In his keynote address, Bill Clinton hailed the Internet as "an inherently cooperative instrument and an inherently shared technology. The Internet has the potential to put power through information and communication in the hands of ordinary people."

But he said nothing about China's Web censorship or Shi Tao's arrest. Asked later why, he said he was unaware of Shi Tao's jailing. "Unfortunately, there was no discernible result or response" from Clinton, said Carol Wang, a program officer with Human Rights in China., Alibaba Inc., carried a government-issued "most wanted" posting on its Yahoo China homepage, urging viewers to provide information on Tibetan activists suspected of stirring recent riots.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-clintonchina13apr13,0,499290.story?page=1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5512985

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