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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:32 AM
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Hillary Clinton: No Wimps in the White House
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 11:38 AM by NYDem Observer
I'm absolutely dunmbfounded. This is the same woman who has been complaining that she gets all the tough questions and who cried right before the NH primary. But Obama's the wimp? Got it.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/hillary-clint-1.html

ABC News' Eloise Harper Reports: Hillary Clinton thinks the White House is no place for wimps.

Stepping up her criticism of her rival's performance in ABC News' primetime debate on Wednesday, Clinton, D-N.Y., told the FOX affiliate in Philadelphia, "I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked. Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House. In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can't walk away because we're going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make."

When pressed, Clinton continued the criticism, adding, "When the going gets tough you can't run away. And it's going to be tough going to deal with these hard problems; getting out of Iraq in the right way, turning the economy around, getting universal health care, ending our dependence on foreign oil. The special interests are going to be a lot tougher than 90 minutes of questions from two journalists and we need a president who is going to be up there fighting everyday for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are."

The Obama campaign didn't waste any time in refuting Clinton's claims.

"Considering the fact that Senator Clinton sat on stage at the last debate and complained to all of America that she always gets the first question, her blatant hypocrisy here is stunning," Obama campaign spokesperson Bill Burton said in a written statement. "But if she'd rather spend her time talking about the same distractions and divisions that Washington is obsessed with, that's her business."

The candidate himself -- both literally and figuratively -- tried to brush off the debate on Thursday.

"She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there, that's her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit," Obama said at a town hall in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Thursday.

"That's how our politics has been taught to be played. That's the lesson that she learned when the Republicans were doing that same thing to her back in the 1990s, so I understand it, and when you're running for the presidency then you've got to expect it."

Obama then paused, brushed both his shoulders, and then bent down and brushed off his knee amid thunderous applause from the audience.

"That's what you got to do," Obama laughed, "That is also precisely why I'm running for president to change that kind of politics."

Bill Clinton also got in on the act on Thursday.

The former President said he didn't see his wife "whining" when she's taken some tough political shots on the presidential campaign trail.

"When I watched that debate last night, I got kinda tickled," Clinton said at an American Legion Hall event in St. Mary's, Pennsylvania, "After the , her opponents', oh, the people working were saying, 'Oh this is so negative, why are they doing this.' Well they've been beatin' up on her for 15 months. I didn't hear her whining when he said she was untruthful in Iowa or called her the senator from Punjab."

"And, you know, they said some pretty rough things about me, too. But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don't want to play, keep your uniform off," Clinton told a loudly cheering crowd.

In her interview with FOX News, Sen. Clinton insisted, "We were both asked some pretty tough questions and that's part of what happens in a debate and in a campaign."

Obama called the first half of the debate "tit for tat silliness", and both senators seem to be growing tired of the exercise, having meet 21 times on the debate stage over the course of the campaign.

"We've now had 21 (debates), and look, I mean the previous three, you know, we did very well, so it's not as if we don't know how to do these things," Obama said on Thursday.

Obama has not yet committed to a proposed April 27 debate in Raleigh. Clinton has said she is willing to debate in North Carolina.

"Can I say that I've been through, what 23 of these debates?" Clinton told FOX on Friday. "And as I recall, I was asked some pretty tough questions in nearly every one of them. That goes with the territory, having been inside the White House, I know the pressures inside the White House, I know how hard it is every single day."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:33 AM
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:34 AM
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2. Brilliantly stated.
"This is the same woman who has been complaining that she gets all the tough questions and who cried right before the NH primary. But Obama's the wimp? Got it."

QFT
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:35 AM
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3. The woman continues to slit her own throat
contrary to popular belief , she isn't intelligent, she's an idiot.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:37 AM
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4. Let's have another debate and chitchat about all the things the
Republicans will use against Clinton in the general. All the things she claims she's ready for. I don't want her wimping out and crying when they bring up the felons list and/or the bimbo list.
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:54 AM
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11. We Already Know...
...what the Republicans would use against Clinton.

The surprise will be all that stuff hidden about Obama because his supporters whine if anything at all is brought up about his actions.

I'm not saying that the people of this country are way sophisticated. I am saying that something like the flag pin, stupid as it may be, will travel the internet to sway people. Rev. Wright may have had reason to say what he said about 'whitey' but the whities of the US who take umbrage are many. If you really think these things don't matter to many Americans you are out of touch. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it's so. That doesn't mean the media should make them campaign issues. It means just the opposite. The media should get to the issues and policies of each candidate as quickly as possible.

As for the debate. This isn't the first time that stupid questions were asked of the participants in the debates. Employees of television stations should never be allowed to be moderators of debates. They aren't smart enough. THEY are the ones who bring this crap up because they need conflict in order to keep their jobs. One of the most dangerous things to the US today, I believe, is our cable television stations. They are absolutely out of control and employ the most narrow minded jerks in this country. This certainly is not a free press that gives people facts. They are a bunch of cheerleaders for scandal and conflict. That's all they are. Every time I hear Russet introduced as "our expert" I choke. Expert at digging up something someone said ten or more years ago, taking it out of context, and acting as if they said it today. His obvious belief that no one changes as they consider information and facts is stunning. That's expert?
Facts are unimportant to the media. They helped to elect this hideous administration now in power by NOT stating facts or asking questions that mattered about what was going on. They have the blood of Iraq on their hands. And they are too dumb to even consider it. Don't paint them all with one brush, you say? Okay. MOST of them are too dumb to even consider the damage they have done.
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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:42 AM
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5. Had to highlight Bill Clinton's statement
The former President said he didn't see his wife "whining" when she's taken some tough political shots on the presidential campaign trail.

I love the Clintons and their revisionist history. How can he honestly say that with a straight face?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:43 AM
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6. More proof Hillary should not be President
This is yet another example of how she will say or do anything if she thinks it will get her elected. Her lack of honesty, sincerity or consistency is damning.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:46 AM
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7. This from a woman who cries, who says women are treated unfairly. Sad woman.
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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:48 AM
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9. I really am starting to feel sorry for her
The fact that she doesn't recognize her own hypocrisy in that statement is really telling.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:23 PM
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29. she is clearly mentally unstable
today she trotted out the sweet nice and not so bad Sybil personality....I seriously think there's something wrong with her
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:48 AM
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8. Does she really think she's going to win this way... by old school rigging?!
She's not a fighter... she's a Neo-con. She has run a very dysfunctional campaign.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:50 AM
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10. LOL. Says the wimp whose pastime is licking RM Scaife's ass.
Hill and Bill have both proven to be gutless, pandering, selfish assholes.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:01 PM
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12. It was Hillary who referred to herself as the Senator from Punjab
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 12:02 PM by zulchzulu
Bill may not want to bring up the Clintons and their links to outsourcing.... as for Bill's "poor Hillary" jab about the Democrat from Punjab, she's the ONE WHO MADE THE STATEMENT:

At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, 'I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,' after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics8.nytimes.com%2Fpackages%2Fpdf%2Fpolitics%2Fmemo1.pdf&ei=GtMISKHiDpioiAHp68ieDA&usg=AFQjCNFXH1ujYRcpHR6kqMzVERa8hCpEWw&sig2=By36WU-3EJfKKfAfUKRrzQ

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/15clinton.htm


More here:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/zulchzulu/126
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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:04 PM
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13. Thanks. Didn't know that.
More Bill Clinton spin. Why am I not surprised.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:06 PM
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14. Fuck! It didn't stop Bill from moving in.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:07 PM
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15. She is calling Obama a "wimp?" Well, she has gone lower than ever. How will this
backfire on her? So far everything has. Any thoughts?
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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:23 PM
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19. I think at this point she has no choice
But to hit him in any way she knows how on electability because she can't win on pledged delegates or popular vote. Problem is she becomes a less attractive candidate the more negative she goes. And I think the wave of supers that are moving to endorse Obama, and Deans insistence that the supers need to make a choice is a direct result of that.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:40 PM
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22. She's trying to emasculate him. Maybe there's something to the Testicle Lock Box after all.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:18 PM
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26. ummm... she didnt say Wimp...
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:07 PM
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16. the projection from team mcclinton has reached bushco proportion..
wake the fuck up, rubes.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:12 PM
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17. She's on the aggressor phase of her non-stop victim/attacker cycle...Heaven forbid, you hit her back
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:21 PM
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18. good post and here are links to Clinton and George S. complaining about
media in the past

Here is the video of her complaining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_VmKcgYaIU


Here is GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/18/stephanopoulos-once-criti_n_97363.html



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NYDem Observer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:27 PM
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21. Wow. That second video is very telling. Thanks.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:17 PM
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25. why it was my pleasure you are welcome lol
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:25 PM
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20. Ok crybaby...
walk away from the primary then.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:41 PM
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23. Stateth the woman who cried
:eyes:
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:44 PM
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24. Where did she say wimp?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:20 PM
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27. LOL - she's been taking lessons from Karl Rove.
This is a losing argument for her though; she's tried it all through the campaign and "I'm better prepared" doesn't work.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:20 PM
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28. Well
Your I'm tough than the heat gets on and all your supporters start screaming sexism isn't going to get you far against McCain either Senator Clinton.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:26 PM
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30. one would say why is HRC doing this, being so negative against
good old barry. Well from reliable sources there are two internal polls that show this is really working for HRC and bad for Obama irregardless what the so called msm pols are saying....So, I say pour it on and win and then pour it on some more Tuesday night.....



"This whole thing about not kicking someone when they are down is BS - Not only do you kick him - you kick him until he passes out - then beat him over the head with a baseball bat - then roll him up in an old rug - and throw him off a cliff into the pounding surf below!" But Tom Delay goes to church regularly, so that makes it all OK."
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:35 PM
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31. Sorry but there is nothing Hillary can do about WIMPs
Weakly interacting massive particles go where they will

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIMP
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