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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:06 PM
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Carville and Stephanopoulos: For Hope and Change (The War Room, 1992)
The War Room is a movie documenting the 1992 Clinton Campaign. I'm like 10 minutes into it and Carville and Stephanopoulos of today have basically contradicts everything they said in this movie.

One of the things in the video is Carville giving a speech a week before the NH primary, He starts off by slamming Roger Ailes, George Bush, and Georgette Mosbacher.

"Let me tell you what's at stake with this election. Everytime someone comes along that's got some ideas-- a Democrat comes along-- the Republicans come up here to ambush him. Remember Muskie? Okay? That is standard procedure. And here comes Clinton. He comes to New Hampshire. People here are hurtin'. They want hope. They want somebody with vision. He gives it to 'em. So what do Republicans do? They get together with their wedge issues and knock it off. If they succeed this time, it's gonna be every time. You are never going to get a presidential candidate, okay? You're never gonna get somebody to come up here and run for president that's served 11 years as governor, who's got any kind of experience, ok? And every time somebody comes up, they're gonna do it.

If we win this, then you have knocked this shit back forever. And everytime we get a Democrat that we can believe in, Roger Ailes and Georgette Mosbacher--.... You know what she said? She can't wait till this election's over so she can get her Maserati and her jewels back. That's the mind-set you're fightin' against.

And if they beat us back--Paul Tsongas-- Look, he ain't gonna win anything ok? It's about George Bush and Roger Ailes and Georgette Mosbacher... and the whole sleazy little cabal of 'em that wanna keep hold of anything and that wanna knock anybody off that we belive in anything that we care about."

-James Carville, 1992, The War Room


That's basically most of his speech... I'm not sure what the rules are in transcribing speeches. Watch the video for the rest of the speech, I'm watching it off a DVD.

Stephanopoulos also is interviewed for This Week, basically diverting Sam Donaldson's questions about Bill's problems with his infidelity and dodging the draft by saying, "And what he's gonna do in this campaign is focus on what's important to American people-- jobs and education. That's what the American people care about. They wanna move into the future. They don't wanna be diverted by side issues, and they're not gonna let the Republican attack machine divert them."

That totally blew my mind so I paused right before the elder Bush did his angry speech that so I could write this post on DU. I've also crossposted this with slight differences on DailyKos as well (I use a different name on DailyKos).
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:14 PM
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1. Whaaat?
No Comments yet???

*Pouts in corner*

And I'm for Obama BTW!
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:18 PM
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2. The whole Clinton team has been consumed by the Beltway. They are now pod people.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 12:19 PM by SoonerPride
Shells of their former hopeful outsider reformer selves. From Bill to Hillary to Snuffleupagous to Carville. All of them.

Pod people.

Shockingly true.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:27 PM
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3. I know
I think that Stephanopoulos should be made to watch all of his comments from that movie and his comments from the debate to compare and contrast.

Then write a 10,000 word essay about how freakishly wrong he looks at the moment.

Carville should write a 20,000 word essay because he called Richardson a Judas.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:34 PM
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4. I really want to know
What the Hillary people think about this? That the people that were closely connected to her husband's campaign are acting completely different this time around.

Now that I think of it, I don't think they were highly paid operatives within the Clinton campaign. It seems to me that both Carville and Stephanopoulos are wearing inexpensive suits and clothing.

"Money talks, bullshit walks" as the saying goes.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:36 PM
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5. **cricket**
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:39 PM
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6. Dear god...
That was the sound I heard!

Thanks for kicking the thread. I don't know why posts such as "Obama's giving the finger to Clinton!" make it to the top and this drops to the bottom!
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:44 PM
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10. Because Hill fans hate the truth
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 12:45 PM by SoonerPride
They can't see that they've become the thing the Clintons railed against 15 years ago.

It is so FUCKING SAD
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:41 PM
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7. Last night Colbert showed Snuffleupagus in 1992 decrying manufactured political distractions .
Really quite revealing and showcases what a hypocrite Snuffles has become.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:43 PM
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9. Since I've moved to the UK
One of the things I've given up is Colbert.

You should watch the whole movie to just get what hypocrites Stephanopoulos and Carville are.

I heard that Stewart has done the same thing!

I wish I had watched the movie a week earlier! :-(
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:50 PM
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13. Yep. Hey, I love your sig line.
cheers
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:43 PM
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8. I loved Paul Tsongas.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:45 PM
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11. What did you think of Carville saying that Tsongas
Wasn't going to win this? That the bigger issue was to focus on the Republicans and not the other democrats vying for the nomination?

That is, comparing to Carville's more recent actions.

Thanks!
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:47 PM
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12. Kick!
I think it's a topic really worth discussing. It's not tabloidy at all!
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:35 PM
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14. Since I can't edit
Here's the video (not subtitled I apologise): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udbx7PPh-Z4

To digg this, here: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Stephanopoulos_Carville_what_a_difference_16_years_make/who

Spread this wide and far!
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