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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:17 PM
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Check yer watch. The Clinton Camp's last-ditch dirty smear should be arriving within 24 hours.
The 3AM fearmongering ad came 3-4 days before Texas and Ohio. This'll be worse--a direct character smear. It's all they've got left. The lie will be bold, perhaps in concert with some breaking "news" that'll be debunked after Tuesday. It'll be one last reminder that Clinton's exit plan is to hit the auto-destruct button no matter who's within range of the blast. Think Wrath of Khan.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:19 PM
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1. linked to Hamas... soft on Iran... Radical Ties to bomb throwing Anarchists...
yeah... she's gone completely over to the Dark Side

McCain is drooling in his porridge
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:22 PM
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4. Uh, actually, I'm pretty sure that...
McCain drools in his porridge anyway. :hi:
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:31 PM
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12. "McCain is drooling in his porridge"
Ha! I may need to use that line someday.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:05 PM
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27. I hear he eats puppies too. eom
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:26 PM
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33. I heard he shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
The media hasn't covered that very much yet.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:13 PM
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60. I love that song! Folson City Blues.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:19 PM
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2. Waiting for that Friday news dump ...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:21 PM
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3. I don't think anybody here
really knows what a "friday news dump" is.

Is it a term you all heard on West Wing or something?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:32 PM
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13. Yes, that's why it is referred to as a "classic" Friday news dump, because of its obscurity.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:04 PM
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26. That term's been used routinely at DU for some time...
like years now. Not sure why you'd think a lot of people wouldn't know what it means. :shrug:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:39 PM
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68. because people misuse it all the time
they don't seem to understand it.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:56 PM
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46. Duhhhh... what's West Wing?
what's "something?"
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:04 PM
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56. do you know what these words mean
snotty
arrogant
stuck up
haughty
pretentious
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:40 PM
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69. adjectives describing Obama?
what do I win?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:52 PM
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70. You win nothing
Your response was cliche and predictable.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:22 PM
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66. I hope you are holding your breath!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:17 PM
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71. I was just thinking that. Will they pay a monica to claim an affair?
Yes, she would go that low.

But the question is, would anyone believe it at this point? And would it help her, the wife of a cheater?

Illegitimate child?

Drug use?

Prostitute?

Beating up a white kid in 3rd grade?

I can't wait to find out what Obama "did."
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:23 PM
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5. Oh I'm waiting for it.
And she better make it a good one... at least partially believable because she has negative credibility with the American people right now.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:26 PM
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9. agreed, and I've been expecting something, too.
underhanded, something that takes our collective breath away, and will be close to impossible to deny, at least for a few days. Precisely the mix. Of course, the radio talking heads are prepped and ready, waiting for their signal.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:24 PM
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6. I'm wondering when the tears will show up....I'm thinking about 3 pm today.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:56 PM
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20. The vidalia onions are being readied as we speak.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:25 PM
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7. It looks like it's the "wimp" charge
Lame as usual.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:26 PM
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10. no. not strong enough of an attack.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 12:27 PM by antifaschits
besides, we had 8 yrs of set mind, I know best, anti-wimp in G. W. bush.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:29 PM
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11. agreed. this'll be way worse.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:25 PM
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8. Bookmarking cause I want to bump this when it happens
Should be any minute now actually, they gotta get it out on friday no?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:32 PM
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14. *sigh*
I can't stand her anymore.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:21 PM
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32. *sigh*
I can't stand his supporters anymore. LoL.

:P
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:28 PM
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34. Yeah... make it personal.
Classy.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:31 PM
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35. LoL. Guess you didn't "get" it, but oh well have a fun weekend.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:33 PM
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36. Whatever. (nt)
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:37 PM
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37. Classy.
:toast:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:40 PM
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39. You think you're cute, don't you?
Go on... keep it up.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:45 PM
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42. I know I'm cute, and I can keep it up as long as you want me to.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:48 PM
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44. Do you think I want you to be so nasty towards me?
I don't.

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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:58 PM
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48. I'm not being nasty, thats you looking for a reason to be upset I guess.
Even had the fig leaf of the Dream team. Don't like the order I have them in Flip it and I'll be just as happy come November. Look at what has happened. Clinton and Obama have almost the same amount of voters that will fight to the death for them, and that won't be swayed by right wing smears that they have been throwing at each other for nearly 6 months now. You really want to win ? That is how we will do it, overwhelming force.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:00 PM
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49. Oh no... I don't have to look.
Several Hillary supporters are trying to get to me of their own free will. I see you're backtracking now though after trying to play it off as a 'joke'... so... again... whatever.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:31 PM
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51. No backtracking. I've said this several times and not just to you.
I've moved past the point of being mad at Obama, I'm looking for that unity that he speaks of so much. Obama supporters are doing the same thing. My best friend is a Obama supporter, we have been going at each other tooth and nail over the last few weeks and this we can agree on, put them both on the ticket in either order and we will destroy McCain in a unprecedented land slide, don't do it and we could very likely get McSame in the white house.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:32 PM
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52. Yeah I'm sure Barack wants to jump into the shark tank with an anchor attached
to his foot in the form of Hillary.

Hey that just gave me an idea of what Hillary could do after she loses the nomination.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:36 PM
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53. I think it's safe to say she detontated her own chance at a VP slot
a long time ago with all her attempts to plant smear-bombs--which, of course, turned out to be duds.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:58 PM
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47. *sigh*
for originality.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:47 PM
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15. What's happening at the Rezko trial? Might it have something to do
with that?

I'm beginning to dread Fridays -- bad news ... ??
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:52 PM
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16. it'll be worse than just the trial. a big ol' whopper is coming.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:56 PM
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21. all i have heard was
the initial questioning of the star witness showed him to be the usual sort of con-man liar needed to smear and trash someone.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:10 PM
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57. delete
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 03:11 PM by BlueIdaho
delete
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:54 PM
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17. dupe
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 12:55 PM by SoonerPride
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:00 PM
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23. 72 hours-they'll start pouring on tonight
For the most part no it won't be effective but Pennsylvanians are about to get inundated.

Obama has 72 hours. If he can ride out the onslaught that is coming his way over this weekend he will be okay. If he can get to Monday afternoon without taking their bait and going negative or making a really horrendous live-on-the-air move he will be okay. I think the ABC debate was just the opening and they fired their biggest weapons at him and he didn't go down. Stumbled a bit sure but he bounced back up.

This is pretty much the last shot the establishment has of getting rid of the competition for their known quantity. Obama isn't a radical but they also don't have dirt-real personal dirt- to throw at him. Even with the availability of whatever endless wiretapping and spying would normally provide they haven't been able to make him go away or turned the screws on him and make him drop out. This is unknown territory for them and they don't like unknowns. If THEY have anything in their pocket it has to come out now.

It is going to be a rough nasty weekend. Hold on.


12%-she has to win by at least 12% or the slide of superdelegates over to Obama will begin. 20% and she might just be able to get to Denver with a reasonable excuse to be there and then she and Bill can start wielding their influence (and they have that in spades) on the party's power players.

12% and 72 hours.

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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:11 PM
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58. let's hope it's a squeaker, but I think you're right
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:54 PM
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18. They might wait until Monday. Weekend news dump won't help.
If there is anything else for them to throw at Barack it will be dumped Monday AM.

You watch.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:55 PM
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19. She may be out of ammunition. I believe she was saving bitter gate for this
week, but after Bill let loose with the Bosnia crap last week, she had to get the conversation back on Sen. Obama and his nefarious ways.

One can never tell with Hillary.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:57 PM
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22. You don't understand, they're going to make shit up. It just needs to ge into the news cycle
so the Clinton fluffers can go to work
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:24 PM
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73. That's why I followed up with "you can never tell with Clinton.
Believe me, I put nothing past her.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:24 PM
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74. That's why I followed up with "you can never tell with Clinton.
Believe me, I put nothing past her.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:15 PM
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64. How can you be out of something you pull out of thin air?
maybe it's coming from Marc Penn's butt?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:21 PM
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72. LOL!
True that. Maybe it's finger gate.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:01 PM
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24. When there's nothing left in your bucket but mud, it's time to go. n/t
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:01 PM
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25. No, more like Sunday.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:07 PM
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28. Go look and see what rush and hannity are talking about. They get their matierial from them anyway.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:07 PM
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29. I expect either an Ayers or Wright ad
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:07 PM
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30. Battle Stations! Divert Power from the Inertial Dampeners to the Forward Shield Array!
Bring the Rail-Guns Online,
it IS a good day to Die!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:54 PM
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45. exactly.
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:21 PM
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31. Reminds me of the Bin Laden tape in 2004
I told myself and others to watch... the "October Surprise" would come late, Thursday or early Friday before the Tuesday Kerry-Bush election. When noon Friday passed, I thought, "really? nothing?" It was about 3pm that the Osama tape hit, and it dominated the news cycles all weekend. I think it may have been just enough to tip the balance to 4 more years of *.

For the reason that this stuff sometimes works, aren't you nervous in the last few days before close elections?
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:37 PM
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38. KHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I was thinking Wrath of Khan, as per your instructions, and I couldn't resist.

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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:57 PM
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54. linkee...
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:40 PM
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40. St. Obama's campaign has used character smear since this began
Now back to your regularly scheduled illusion.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:41 PM
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41. Is that an elephant in your avatar?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:47 PM
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43. What are you suggesting?
The Obama campaign uses surreptitious means to smear character -- let's be forthright.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:00 PM
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55. It would appear to be...um...that thing that Samson used the jawbone of to slay the philistines.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 03:01 PM by LowerManhattanite
In other words...an *ss. :)
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:24 PM
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50. here's hoping I owe you Clinton folk a big apology on Monday
If so, I'm good for it.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:13 PM
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59. And all the others have worked so well for her.
Hillary has failed to learn from her past mistakes.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:13 PM
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61. Her campaign has cried "wolf".
I HOPE the smear is outlandish...

She won't be believed at
this point.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:13 PM
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62. Clinton's Cowardice
Unable to compete in the world of big social and diplomatic ideas - HRC hides behind innuendo, lies, and half truths. She smirks and smiles and obfuscates being too cute by half. She calls her opponent names and questions his patriotism, his religion, and his strength of conviction. She is nothing more than a coward. Her tasteless, classless, hopeless actions point to her small heart and her big ego. She thinks she's the smartest girl in the room but in fact she is the biggest coward on the stage.

One more HRC last second attack won't change that and it won't change the outcome of this primary season.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:14 PM
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63. My watch shows the second hand on the middle finger. n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:21 PM
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65. Gottalink?
for all your trash? The garbage man must have forgotten to pick yours up!

This board would go crazy if Clinton supporters posted made up lies like this. And many of those poor fools lap it up and believe any lie that's posted. You my friend are a liar and this is a nasty dirty smear. Typical of Obie supporters.

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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:50 PM
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67. link
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:10 PM
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75. Here's the first one: Incoming: Bombs away!
Obama Hamas Ties Pushed In McCain Letter: So Much For "Respectful" Campaign

Sent out by the McCain people, as if HRC has nothing to do with it, at all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3274101
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:18 PM
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76. I'd love to see it backfire bigtime on her and lead to a landslide Obama win.
Yeah, I know. In my dreams.

However, many people (undecideds and even her own supporters) ARE starting to get fed up with her. I think that was evidenced in the backlash to her "Bittergate" smear campaign. All it led to was higher negatives for her, higher poll numbers for Obama, and more endorsements for Obama.

So, yeah ... Bring it on, Hills!
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