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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:56 PM
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If Hillary wins PA, what do the Super Delegates do then?
Howard Dean has put out the word to the supers that he wants them to make a decision and soon. However, if Hillary wins PA by a large margin, how can the super delegates ignore her? Is not this only going to complicate the process further?

The only way the super delegates can be pushed to make a decision soon is if Obama springs an upset in PA? At the present time, that does not look likely. But it is not impossible. If it were to happen, then there could be a deluge of super delegates moving to Obama's side.

But Dean's request that the super delegates make a decision and soon is not realistic at this moment in time. Perhaps after PA, the situation will clear up? Or it might become even more muddy? If that happens, then we have the old MI and FL problem back on the table. Things could become even more chaotice than they are presently.

So, do not pop the champagne just yet. No one knows how this is going to turn out. In the interval, we should try to think of ways to reconcile the differences, no matter who wins. It's starting to look like the "dream ticket" may be the nightmare ticket.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:57 PM
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1. Not much change in opinion actually...it would meet expectations
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 05:57 PM by featherman
The only "game changer" on Tuesday would be an Obama win by any margin.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:59 PM
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2. PA is not the be-all end-all.
Sure, it is an important state, but Obama is winning the National numbers, the PD's, the popular vote, and doing best against McLame right now. He also has the best ability to raise much needed money. His Electoral map looks better, and many supers are elected officials who need to back the one who will motivate Dems AND Indys. Hillary motivates pukes, and hurt their chances.

PA doesn't mean as much as Hillary would like you to believe.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:02 PM
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3. They'll "do" the math, that's what. Obama still wins. Enough is enough. ~NT~
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:03 PM
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4. Hillary would have to win by over 25% to make any mathematical impact on the race.
And since Obama is already ahead in NC by 20 points, there is no way Hillary could even sustain any gain.

Besides - the superdelegates really don't WANT to have to deal with the drama and self-serving ways of the Clintons who they would end up defending at the expense of the party and other Dem lawmakers yet again. Especially any super in a state where there are close races for the rest of the ticket. The majority of the OTHER candidates don't want their races jeopardized.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:27 PM
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5. I think they're holding off until May 6 (IN & NC) to make their move. nt
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:28 PM
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6. Q: "How can the super delegates ignore her?" A: The same way most of the voters have
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:29 PM
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7. Lmfao!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:31 PM
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8. To even have a change at turning things around, she needs a blow out win
in PA. I don't see that happening.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:48 PM
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9. They're going to mostly sit tight until Obama captures the majority of the
pledged delegates. As the polls stand today, he should easily hit that by the KY/OR primaries on May 20th.

:dem:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:53 PM
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13. You may be right...
Once he has the majority of delegates and Hillary has no chance of getting the majority, they may decide at that time to throw their support behind the winner?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:19 PM
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10. If she wins by even 1%, this will be declared a huge HRC victory
By HRC and George Stephenopolous
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:39 PM
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12. If Obama won by 5%, the MSM would be harping about Obama's loss of momentum
They would be asking whether Wright, Bitter and Ferrarro made a fatal dent into what would have been a sweeping Obama victory. A major disappointment for Obama....you read it here first.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:30 PM
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11. K&R....I don't know...hope others will post about it...n/t
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:41 PM
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14. She has been the projected PA winner for ages now.
For her to actually win changes nothing, unless she wins by a greater margin than everyone expects.
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