Do you remember 2002, 2003, 2004?

[Guaranteed]

Do you remember the non-existent leadership of the Democrats being steamrolled?

Do you remember Hillary Clinton's conspicuous, years-long absence? That when she poked her head out of her hidey-hole, it was only to bash those opposed to the war?


I don't know about you, but I will NEVER forget what we went through in trying to get ANY kind of leadership out of our Democrats when it came to the criminality of the Bush Administration. It went on for so long. It was TORTURE, and DU saw and felt it every single day.

It's why I love Howard Dean. It's why I love Al Gore.

And it's why I don't support Hillary Clinton for our party's nomination. She wasn't there when it mattered.


Do you remember?

[redqueen]

1. Hell yes I remember.

Speaking of torture... she hasn't waffled on that again, has she? She's still against it, right?

[Occam Bandage]

2. Most of us remember. Most of us support Obama over Clinton. These may be related.

[Guaranteed]

3. It's the difference I see between Obama and Clinton supporters.

Clinton supporters don't seem to remember or have experienced what DU went through in those years.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

4. Yes I remember.

[southerncrone]

5. Yes, I remember. I also remember that

MANY other Democratic Senators & Reps did NOTHING also.

I don't support Hillary, but she was not alone in the silence.

Actually at this point "silence" looks more like "compliance". :(

[Guaranteed]

7. That's absolutely right. And we tried and tried to get them to say something,

but they just wouldn't. While we sat here in our "unpatriotic" cess.


But Clinton- I hold her to a higher standard. If anyone could have said something, it was her and her husband. She had the power to do it.

They all stood by, but the others at least had the excuse of "assured" destruction if they did anything.

Enter Howard Dean.

[blm]

6. I remember Kerry out there alone attacking Bush on ToraBora since Jan2002. I remember

2003 Kerry, Dean and Clark calling for Rumsfeld to lose his job, and both Clintons refused to back them up on that - even after Abu Ghraib.

I remember Bill using his 3 week book tour in the summer of 2004 to DEFEND BUSH on the very Iraq decisions that the Dem nominee was criticizing.

[LWolf]

8. Neither was Obama,

and based on his record since '04, I don't think he would have been there when it mattered, either.

[Guaranteed]

9. I don't know if he would have been there either.

I didn't like his tenor when he first showed up on the scene. He was too much like, well, Bill Clinton himself. All charisma.

I like him better now. But, more than that, I think, by the simple fact that he wasn't the national figure he is today in 2002, 2003, he has a chance to move us past this unbelievably huge heap of garbage that has been left by the neocons. It's a chance for a fresh start and a truly proud moment for American history: our first black President.

[LWolf]

10. I can see why those two things

draw so many people:

fresh start, and the first black president.

I truly do understand it. Perhaps because his positions on my key issues are poor, I just can't find the "hope" that others hold.

[stillcool]

11. Electing a President..

may be able to help stem the flow of corruption by corporation, but we really need to elect a newly-minted Congress as well.