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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:46 PM
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The ABC Debate wasn't biased toward one candidate or another.
As an Obama supporter, I can say the debate was more about drama and trying to get a "headline" response from either candidate than it was favoritism toward one candidate or another.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:47 PM
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1. i disagree. strongly.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:49 PM
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2. I'll agree they fanned the flames wherever they came up
But it was definitely at least 60-40 slanted against Barack. The only real Gotchas for Hillary, and they were big ones, were her admitting the sniper lie and agreeing Obama can win the GE (My favorite part).
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:49 PM
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3. 70-30
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:56 PM
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11. He's the frontrunner and has had the most controversies (however lame) recently.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 07:58 PM by Infinite Hope
My problem with the debate is that they spent the first 40 minutes obsessing over drama rather than issues. I thought I was the only one noticing when it was 35 minutes in and they hadn't talked about one substantial issue. Than around 40 minutes into the debate, they finally left the petty drama behind. I never expected it to become the uproar it has become, though I'm thankful it has because ABC did a p*ss-poor job.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:58 PM
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14. They weren't questions about the most recent controversies, though. They're old,
already-covered, or irrelevant things.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:02 PM
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17. Not all of America is like us. Most Americans don't have a clue about those issues.
And so the media goes where the drama goes. That's the real problem with this all - they're focused on drama (aka: profits) rather than journalistic integrity.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:12 PM
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21. Then why didn't they ask Hillary about Norman Hsu or the $800K donated to them by shady
characters or her "Screw 'em" comment or anything else like that?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:57 PM
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12. brawawawawawawaaaa
"...and agreeing Obama can win the GE (My favorite part)."
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:09 PM
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18. Wasn't that sweeeeeet!!
How did this woman get succesful in politics. That's the shit you lie about. Aint no video on your feelings Hil.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:51 PM
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4. OMFG!! cough cough! grrrrrrr
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:53 PM
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5. yes it was. and they have disgraced themselves.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 07:53 PM by meow mix
obama will still win, and they will forever be known as biased crap peddlers
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:53 PM
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6. Biased in favor of McCain...duh.... ABC's role is to demean and diminish
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 07:54 PM by featherman
any and all Democrats and promote the GOP. Surely you have noticed this for the past 36+ years
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:53 PM
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7. You obviously aren't paying attention
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:55 PM
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8. As a Resident of the great state of Pennsylvania
ABC owes us an apology for wasting time on sniper fire and flag pins for 45 minutes. ABC can fuck itself.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:59 PM
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15. I agree. n/t
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:55 PM
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9. I half agree with the OP
The debate was designed to hurt Democrats... *all* Democrats. Even when they got to the issue questions, they used right wing framing to ask them.

The stupid questions at the beginning were there to put a spotlight on all these *issues* together so the WH would look unattainable for us.

BUT...

The stupid questions at the beginning *were* slanted against Obama. He got four questions out of silly season (Wright-gate, bitter-gate, flag pins, and Ayers), while she only got one (sniper-gate).
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:58 PM
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13. Bingo !
It was designed to damage the Democrats. Think of the McCain misstatements and screw ups in the last month. How long did they report on those. It's the repetition that makes the imprint on voters.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:00 PM
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16. See comment #11. The media goes where the drama is. I've studied the media in my academic career.n/t
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:18 PM
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23. Did you study the Horizontal & Vertical Integration of the 5 major media companies?
Did you study the fact that they're part of conglomorates that have financial interests in areas that conflict with thier duty to "serve the public interests"?
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:41 PM
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29. Indeed. But there's no evidence they were actively and intentionally doing the work of Hillary.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 08:41 PM by Infinite Hope
It's absurd to think so...and I say that as someone who can't stand the witch.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:55 PM
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10. ROFL
Can I have some of what you're smoking??

:rofl:
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 PM
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19. It was a waste of time. Headlines the next day = ABC loses. Thats all any one knows
And that is all any one will remember about that debacle.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 PM
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20. Yep. They kept on trying to set them against eachother.
Sadly, Hillary fell for it each time.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:56 PM
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30. Yeah, Obama talked about it
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 08:56 PM by zidzi
at the North Carolina event the next day.. hilary was in her element.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:16 PM
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22. One of the most reasonable perspectives I've read in a long time.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 08:17 PM by Writer
Corporations want to see profits, and are far more interested in attracting eyeballs than in promoting a particular brand of politics. Everyday, media organizations across the country are accused of being too liberal, too conservative, too left, too right, etc. So - exactly where do the collective "media" actually lie (as in rest?)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:21 PM
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24. ABC has adopted the standards of the National Enquirer instead of a valid news channel
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:25 PM
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25. Maybe right,
it was biased against dems, therefore FOR REPS!
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:27 PM
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26. what about Mark Penn
That was a scandal that actually had policy implications. A two for one question.

Why did you hire a lead strategist take money to help out the Colombia government's position on free trade that was directly the opposite of your position.

This happened well after Wright or flag lapel pin gate.

This proves it wasn't a fair onslaught. That question was more relevant than any Obama question.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:33 PM
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27. BLATANT BIAS !! A NO BRANIER ! Stephanopoulos used Hannity cues VERBATIM !!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:36 PM
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28. Agree.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:17 PM
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31. I disagree. Four very negative questions directed at Obama compared to the one question to Clinton.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 09:18 PM by IsItJustMe
Do the math.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:01 AM
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32. You wouldn't make a good lawyer or researcher. Superficial arguments aren't evidence. n/t
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ksdemocratsforthewin Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:58 AM
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33. It wasn't bad. Obama needs to stop the QQ. nt
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