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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:46 PM
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Hillary to the GrassRoots.....SCREW YOU!

I talk.....YOU listen!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/celeste-fremon/clinton-slams-democratic_b_97484.html

This is really nothing new.
The DLC has always been authoritarian.
They want a Top Down party organization. That is one reason why the Clintons and the DLC HATE Howard Dean's 50-State Grassroots Democratic Party organization.

The DLC would rather be in charge of a Minority Party...as long as THEY are In Charge.
That is why Hillary has endorsed McCain over Obama.

Fuck the DLC!
Fuck The Clintons and their Top Down Democratic Party.
The GrassRoots HAVE the power.
All WE have to do is USE IT!



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone


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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:47 PM
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1. Hey Hillary
Screw you back. Even if you were "somehow" to win the nomination, we will not support you. You don't care about us. We don't care about you. Now go away.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:46 PM
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41. K&R The Hillary thing is dead
Everyone take a deep breath... relax... now let's concentrate on how we can save this country from the dire fucking straights that we are in. Listen.. the TITANIC is going down. The ice water is starting to rush around our ankles. The band is playing, but it will do no good to re-arrange the deck chairs. Folks, it's PANIC time. Your Civil Liberties are in question and I'm talking about free movement around the US being restricted. I'm talking about Marshall Law. I was in the FEMA CAMP in New Orleans for Hurricane KATRINA. I never want to go back to that Hell Hole again!!!! A word to the Wise....
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:49 PM
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2. right fucking on
I was just ranting in the "whining for unity" thread about this very thing

omg you are SWEET RELIEF random human

thank you for this POST

k slash r
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:49 PM
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3. I actually heard this story on Fox but not on the other channels
And I don't like Fox but thats the fact.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:51 PM
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Well, if you watch it then you must like it. nt
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:54 PM
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8. snark
yup
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:05 PM
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13. No, but I do peek it to see how much I hate it now and then
Gotta keep an eye on Satan and what he's up too don't you think?
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:07 PM
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15. I'm just saying I was suprised they reported it
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:27 PM
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23. It was discussed this evening on The Verdict on MSNBC as well n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 08:29 PM by mrone2
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:49 PM
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4. Is the DLC dying off? (I ask, with hope in my voice) nt
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:52 PM
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6. If we expand the base NOW... we can win
but we have to act as if... and go balls to the walls till November

yes... either THEY are going to GO

or THEY will make sure that WE DO

the world is in the balance
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:54 PM
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9. Well I ain't goin' nowhere and I'm about as far from a DLC as they come! :-) nt
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:39 PM
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28. I ain't goin' nowhere!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:22 PM
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31. imagine Clinton dividing us until August
how will that go? ten weeks to campaign

Obama is good... but are we THAT good?

I'm saying... we NEED to expand the Party Base to counter the corporate or racist entrenchment, that likes to think it's covert...

imagine even a small percentage of the 30% of Clinton supporters that have sworn to vote for McCain... actually following through

we NEED to register voters... we NEED to put out the tentstakes for a Party Revival
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:58 PM
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10. I hope so.
If Obama gets elected, that will be one BIG nail in their coffin.
Obama owes more to the grassroots, and will be more willing to listen.

If Hillary is successful at torpedoing Obama and getting McCain elected.....the DLC will retain some of their power. But the DLC has taken some big hits the last couple of years, and it appears that the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party is gaining power.

One good sign:
The DLC used to publish its membership on their website.
A couple of years ago, they removed the membership search function.
They began to realize that membership in the DLC is not a good thing for the public to know about. :)
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:00 PM
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11. Question. If the DLC goes, does that mean.....
1) That they become normal Democrat liberals again, or,
2) That they return to the GOP where they came from?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 PM
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19. Damn good question.
As they are practiced "tit suckers",
I predict they will venally suck up
to the Progressive Tsunami.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:05 PM
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32. LOL! nt
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:12 PM
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20. You mean "The Lieberman Option" ?
Former Chairman of the DLC Joe Lieberman with friend


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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:11 PM
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33. All I have to say to DLCers is.... "to the left to the left... " :-) nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:10 PM
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16. Picking off Lieberman was a good start.
The defeat of Clinton will put the nail in their coffin!

GO OBAMA!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 PM
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18. Thank goodness! nt
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:29 PM
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25. let's stomp it out...
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:32 PM
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26. I'm all for that! nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:53 PM
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36. Democrats that get elected...
have been sliding their way. It's very discouraging seeing newly elected Dems vote with Republicans time after time. Maybe we'll see some more participation at the state level. The good thing about Senator Obama's campaign is the lessons that are being learned about organization.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 05:58 PM
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40. I agree. No Dem should vote with a Repuke EVEN if it costs them their seat
That's the problem with elections in this country, whether or not you get elected is all based on how much money you can receive from the ones that have the money, and the moneyed ones don't do that out of the kindness of their hearts. This country is f***** up.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:51 PM
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5. Well, I hate to say it, AGAIN, but
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 07:51 PM by HereSince1628
The DLC IS AN ELITIST ORGANIZATION.

They believe that some people are inherently are more important than others.

They believe that some people should have more influence in politics than others.

They believe that non-members to their by invitation only club are just not worth as much as they are.

It is VERY odd that HRC, the elitist DLC's candidate, would make remarks about another candidate being elitist,

EXCEPT for the fact that...

THEY ALL THINK YOU ARE STUPID AND UNIMPORTANT!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:52 PM
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7. How ironic that MoveOn was formed to support Bill Clinton...
..."censure and move on"
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:00 PM
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12. Yep, it was formed to help our president Clinton, and now look nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:05 PM
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14. Hillary is so two faced
MSNBC played audio of her praising them a year ago then audio a few months ago condemning them....HYPOCRITE
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:11 PM
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17. She doesn't even bother to be INFORMED about the stands of MoveOn
Why should anyone think she is INFORMED about ANYTHING? Not IWR!!! She's a DINO. Worse than a Repuke.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:12 PM
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21. She is going bye bye soon
I hope my state does the honors but if NC gets to do it. So be it.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:14 PM
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22. Are you working on getting out the vote in Penn?
I wish I could be there.

We didn't get to do much here
in Michigan.

:(
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:48 PM
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29. Working my ass off
4 15 hour days ahead of me :-)

Took two days off of work.

Don't worry you'll get your turn for the GE and he's going to have to go there a bunch to make up for the soviet style primary.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:46 AM
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39. Just came back from our District Convention....
He will be welcomed with OPEN ARMS here in
Macomb and Oakland Counties....

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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:28 PM
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24. couldn't agree more
DLC = cancer
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:37 PM
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27. Uhm ..that would be "screw em"
:evilgrin:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:17 PM
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30. since her conversion at Wellesley
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 09:18 PM by madrchsod
she has always believed that the state knows what is best for the people. she expects people to accept what the state gives them.

i am not surprised by her statements
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:17 PM
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34. Her NY senate seat is in trouble now, she's done herself no good
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:20 PM
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35. oh no
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:02 PM
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37. The reason Hillary doesn't like grassroots efforts is because it's hard to find any
I'm going to be doing my Obama table in Madison tomorrow morning and can't WAIT!!!!!!


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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:04 PM
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38. What a surprise. She and Bill are DLC "centrists" (meaning conservative).
They don't give a f*ck about the base until they need them.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:26 PM
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42. KnR
:kick: :dem:
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