Want to have a debate with real issues instead of the ABC horseshit?

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Tell all the candidates to agree to a science debate in Oregon. Both Dems will probably look pretty good in such a venue. From the Science Debate people (with free faxes from one of their supporting organizations)--

Today, the candidates for president should be undertaking one of the most talked-about events of the campaign season: a substantive, visionary debate about the most important challenges facing this nation.

Instead, they engaged in yet another generic debate widely criticized for its lack of substance.

But the challenges won't go away, and neither will the voters' right to hear the candidates' positions on them, nor the candidates' responsibility to discuss them in greater detail. So we won't go away either.

Yesterday, some of us published this op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, outlining some of the reasons why the stakes could not be higher for America.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120839518424921607.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

Others of us wrote or were reported on in TIME, The New Republic, and PhysicsWorld. http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/04/the_debate_that_didnt_happen.html
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_spine/archive/2008/04/17/blinding-them-with-science.aspx
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/33774

The World Wildlife Fund endorsed us and BusinessWire distributed this story.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080416005965&newsLang=en

And today, Intel Chairman Craig Barrett and World Wildlife Fund President & CEO Carter Roberts, representing economic competitiveness and climate change, joined Nobel Laureates David Baltimore, Peter Agre, Harold Varmus, Richard Schrock, David Gross, John Mather, David Politzer, and Leon Lederman in a joint email to the campaigns urging them to attend the proposed debate in Oregon in May.

http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php?id=28
An open letter to the candidates
The following email was sent to the campaigns on April 18, 2008



Dear (campaign manager),

We understand Senator (Clinton, McCain or Obama) has been invited to attend a nationally televised conversation in Oregon about science and technology policy issues.

We are writing to strongly urge you to accept this invitation for the good of our nation and the planet, as well as your campaign.

This is not a science quiz; nobody cares if the candidates know scientific details or have memorized specifics, and such a forum should not take undue preparation. This is a serious policy discussion about the candidates’ vision for solving many of America’s most serious challenges, the majority of which revolve around issues of science and technology, and an opportunity for candidates to focus on big ideas and express their vision for how our country will remain innovative and competitive in the future. We understand the questions will be provided to you in advance.

The dates proposed for this event are either of May 2, May 9, or May 16, to be held at Portland State University in the midst of the Oregon mail-in primary. The format is entirely flexible. It could be a forum similar to the “Compassion Forum” the candidates recently held on faith issues, or a debate as originally proposed. But it is important that you attend. Science and technology present issues the American people care deeply about because they recognize their direct link to our country’s economic wellbeing, health, and the environment. Unfortunately, they have not gotten much attention so far in this campaign.

This proposal has the backing of PBS and three of the nation’s premier public television stations: WGBH in Boston, WNET in New York, and Oregon Public Broadcasting, and would be jointly sponsored by NOVA, NOW, the AAAS, the National Academies, the Council on Competitiveness, and Science Debate 2008. We believe PBS through its 350 member stations is an ideal platform since the network has tens of millions of viewers that are extremely interested in science, technology and their link to our nation’s future.

Sincerely,

Craig Barrett, Chairman, Intel; Chairman, National Academy of Engineering
David Baltimore, Chairman, American Association for the Advancement of Science; Past President, Caltech; Nobel Prize in Medicine, 1975
Peter Agre, Director, Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute, Bloomberg School of Public Health; Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 2003
Harold Varmus, President, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center; past director of the National Institutes of Health; Nobel Prize in Medicine, 1989
Richard Schrock, Frederick G. Keyes Professor Of Chemistry, M.I.T.; Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 2005
David Gross, Director of the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics, U.C. Santa Barbara; Nobel Prize in Physics, 2004
John Mather, Project Scientist, James Webb Space Telescope; Time magazine's 100 Most Influential People, 2007; Nobel Prize in Physics, 2006
David Politzer, The Tolman Professor of Theoretical Physics, CalTech; Nobel Prize in Physics, 2004
Leon Lederman, Past Director, FermiLab; Pritzker Professor of Science, Illinois Institute of Technology; Nobel Prize in Physics, 1988
Carter Roberts, President & CEO, World Wildlife Fund (WWF)



Today, we'd ask you to help too. Make blog posts, write letters to the editor, call or email the candidates and ask them to respond, pitch the media on how important this story is to America, and support our ongoing effort to turn this country around.


-The Team at www.ScienceDebate2008.com

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1. Yeah, lets forget the General Election campaign--

Catch a clue: you can't put the opinions and inclinations of Mr. and Mrs. America "on ignore."