Bill Maher last night -- devastating news for Hillary

[nichomachus]

Maher sent investigative reporter Jeremy Scahill to rural PA to talk to people. He talked to bikers, factory workers, gun owners, and people in gunshops.

They all pretty much agreed that, while Obama could have worded things differently, he was dead-on in his assessment. They are bitter, they say, and they plan to support Obama -- even several who said they had voted for Bush. They want change in Washington, they said, and they think Obama is the one to bring it.

That's not good news for Hillary and McCain who say the rural folks are dancing in the streets over the economic straits in which they found themselves.

[0007]

1. It was a teriffic show last night and one of Bill Maher best.

[Tellurian]

6. Maher frames the theme of his show in satire..

I've never found Maher remotely connected to reality. He's always in the extreme.. for the good or for the bad..

[nichomachus]

16. Except

This was a respected reporter, talking to real people about real things. It was real journalism. This wasn't a monologue or a made-up segment. I'll take Jeremy Scahill over any of the MSM airheads anytime.

[Tellurian]

24. I'm sure he interviewed hundreds maybe thousands of people...

:rofl:

[TLM]

42. You've have to interview thousands...

in PA order to find enough Hillary supporters to fill up a segment.


Her support is weak, which is why 30 points melted off like nothing in two weeks.


She might still win PA, but it will be by 3 to 5 points.


And if Obama wins PA, even you'd have to admit it is over for Hillary.

[Tellurian]

54. Yeah, I read somewhere the interviewees were a band of Hell's Angels counterparts

tout de suite!

[SoCalDem]

35. And these people ARE like many of the people the HRC people have claimed

They have families, they have financial worries.. They may actually vote their best interest this time around.. who knows..

[intaglio]

19. Bit like you Tellurian - except Maher is amusing not pitful n/t

[u2spirit]

20. Tellurian

You and Maher have a lot in common then since your posts seemed to be based on satire.

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[Tellurian]

56. If you have to break the Rules to make our point..

your point is irrelevant!

[Nedsdag]

58. My point may be irrelevant.

But your devotion to Your Girl will be irrelevant soon.

I guess you'll be calling the McCain campaign after she drops out.

[dchill]

50. Wow! Sounds like he's right up your alley...

:shrug:

[superkia]

36. I think the show was terrific just based on the guests, I love hearing...

Cornell West speak and Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an amazing woman that I also love to hear speak. Those two alone made the show for me.

[dkf]

2. All I know if I was suffering, and someone said I was bitter, and the other said I was happy,

I know who would piss me off...

[zanne]

5. Where can I get a bumper sticker that says...

"Bitter French-Canadian Americans for Obama"? Do you think it would fit on a bumper sticker?

[dkf]

21. I've seen em all...

Catherina and TLM made mine for me. I think they are using some sort of photoshop program.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5479055

[goclark]

13. I'm still bitter

that slaveowners felt that my g g g grandparents were happy to be slaves.
I still think about how painful and bitter they must have felt. :cry:

They sure must have been clinging to their religion.

[dkf]

22. What pisses me off is that even when the country got rid of slavery

they still had Jim Crow laws. How does that make any sense at all?

This brings the injustice from great great great grandparent type generations, to people who are living today.

[goclark]

23. You are so right ~ when I look through census records 1860 and forward

and even after slavery they are working for their previous Masters, I'm bitter.

I want to know if they were even paid to still be with them.

Thanks for understanding

[roguevalley]

31. Jim Crow sucked so bad. I wish younger folks could have experienced

it for five minutes to understand how awesome their grandparents are.

[marshall]

34. Speaking of crow, did Maher have to eat some?

I don't get HBO, but the media is abuzz about Maher supposedly apologizing for joking about the Pope. What if anything did he actually say in response to the rants against him?

[Mooney]

37. He didn't apologize for that at all.

The one regret that he voiced was that the wording of his claim that Pope Benedict used to be a Nazi (as opposed to a member of the Hitler Youth) obscured his greater point, which is that the Catholic Church is responsible for covering up thousands of cases of child molestation.

[marshall]

40. I figured that was what it would be

The talking heads were touting it as some kind of hat in his hand mewling apology. Maher doesn't do that.

[Mooney]

47. Not in a million years.

[ampad]

27. They couldn't be why black folks

who are religious tend to be so passionate about their faith now could it? :shrug:

[roguevalley]

32. churches are a cohesive part of their communities, social, religious

and emotional. Lots of folks love their church for community as well.

[marylanddem]

3. Glad to hear this - thanks

Obama is truly undergoing a trial by fire, but I do believe he will continue to come out of it unscathed - a remarkable man.

[zanne]

9. Do you remember when Bush was campaigning...

He couldn't help but make stupid statements. He managed to insult just about everybody, but was always forgiven. He had momentum and alot of people just liked him. I think we're going through a sea change in public sentiment right now. Obama has momentum. He's the man!

[izquierdista]

4. What do they know?

Without the MSM telling them what sentences and nuance mean? He can't mean that the people he interviewed can actually think for themselves, does he??

[stray cat]

8. I hope you are being sarcastic

[zanne]

12. I think "iz" just forgot the sarcasm thingie. nt

[izquierdista]

14. Left it off on purpose

I'm trolling for the exceptionally thick-headed today -- you know, Hillary voters.

[stray cat]

15. I was wondering if you were incredibly thick headed - glad you are not!

[rucky]

7. But the Pope came to visit!

didn't you see the joyous look on their faces?

[ClayZ]

10. It was a great job of reporting!

K and R

[nichomachus]

11. And the pope

Last week, Maher told a joke about the pope. Yesterday, that fraudulent old gas bag from The Catholic League -- a made-up organization -- was on TV gloating about how he had called HBO and he was going to make Maher apologize.

Well, Maher sort of apologized, but not really, and the opening allowed him and his guests to go on a 15-minute rant about how corrupt the leadership of the Catholic Church was. Be careful what you ask for.

[City Lights]

17. I missed it last night...I'm gonna watch it in 30 minutes. nt

[0007]

44. Check your schedule, I'm sure you can still see it.

[City Lights]

57. I watched it this morning...10:30 CDT.

Great show. :-)

[Zachstar]

18. It is devestating news because in small communities.. people talk.

And when they talk that means they share their feelings and beliefs. So entire communities could be pissed at Clinton's comments.

For someone to tell them that they are supposedly happy because jobs are flying out while gas goes higher and healthcare costs skyrocket. Well I think people are going to respond to that. Because they are the ones who are taking the brunt of the effects.

Let us hope the the people of PA decide to help end this and give us our nominee!

[Smarmie Doofus]

25. This misses the point.

The goof here wasn't that he said people are 'bitter'; the goof is that he said they "clung" to their religion as means of coping.

He happens to be right but there are certain things one doesn't point out in a national campaign; the dysfuntional role religion plays in the psyches of many people is one of those things.

[Bensthename]

28. The polls showed people understood what he meant..

[cilla4progress]

30. Silliness

And the truly silly thing is, in my view, that IS the "role" of religion - it is one's bulwark in raging seas. As you say, we all know that - I think Obama would have been shrewd to cop to this himself! But people are under this delusion that no, no, no, religion doesn't serve a purpose cooked up by humans to explain thunder and lightning, floods, and premature death (since prehistoric times). It is somehow an "objective reality. " Phooey, I say!

[reggie the dog]

39. neither silly nor insulting

Saying people cling to their religion in such a situation is normal. People cling to religioin when they have nothing else left. Folks that clung to their religion, Martin Luther King Jr., X, my dirt poor peasant ancestors in Europe...............

[Smarmie Doofus]

45. It's true but he expressed it poorly.

He grouped it ( clinging to religion) in a series of ignoble characteristics or behaviors: 1. blaming people that are unlike one's self; (bad). 2. gun nuttiness; (bad). 3. clinging ( *neurotically*... he didn't have to use that word; it was implied) to 'religion'.( by it's inclusion in the series, also *bad*).

[Cha]

59. Too bad..he's not perfect but

the ones who are twisting his words and trying to make hay outta their own shit are the Losers.

[F.Gordon]

26. The Bikers who went "Strip Club Hopping" support Obama??

Guess Hillary won't be getting the Bikers Who Go Strip Club Hopping vote.

[Dr Fate]

38. Well, at least they dont drink lattes-God forbid. n/t

n/t

[reggie the dog]

41. millions of votes

go ahead, laugh at them....they only represent several million votes.....

[mrreowwr_kittty]

51. No worries F. Gordon, she'll get the votes of the ones who are racist. nt

[ORDem]

29. Kick

:kick:

[futureliveshere]

33. Is there a link? I missed the show.

[burythehatchet]

46. the biker gang was incredible. I was shocked.

[FrenchieCat]

48. Bikers for Obama Rally was just too awesome.......

Damn, if they'll vote for Obama, he's already won the GE! :)

[burythehatchet]

49. it illuminated the key to Obama's victory. People WANT to vote for him

as opposed to the holding the nose thing.

[AtomicKitten]

52. Now, what were they saying about Obama not being able to win white rural America?

:thumbsup:

[FrenchieCat]

53. Bunch of lies, as usual.....

From the Beltway Conventional Wisdom doofus asshole pundits. :eyes:

[AtomicKitten]

55. turns out the pundits are the hayseeds after all, they just wear nice suits

:D