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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:51 AM
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Hillary lets it be known to rural PA, she's against those evil lefties
Not surprising. It's the weekend before the election.

Yes any liberal should be outraged by this, but this is bait to make this a big story so she can impress the T of PA with her non-lefty views.

And this should be all over the news. Let's just let PA vote first and then bring up 4/23.

Fuck her bullshit.

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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:52 AM
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1. What EXACTLY did she say?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:18 AM
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9. I listened to the audio.
On her point about caucuses, she's absolutely right. The results of the Washington caucuses were radically different from the primary vote tally. Caucuses suck. Private ballots are a key component of effective democracy.

I participated in the 2004 caucus. I did not participate in 2008, because 2004 was such a depressing exercise. It reminded me of choosing up teams in gym.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:07 PM
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12. you know what? Fuck everyone who disses caucuses. That is what
my state holds. Bill Clinton didn't slam caucuses when he was running. She is and its bullshit. You don't slam infrastucture if you expect to win and need support in the GE. Oh, yeah, right. She is using the EVER EFFECTIVE fifteen state strategy to win. How's it working so far.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:07 PM
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13. you know what? Fuck everyone who disses caucuses. That is what
my state holds. Bill Clinton didn't slam caucuses when he was running. She is and its bullshit. You don't slam infrastucture if you expect to win and need support in the GE. Oh, yeah, right. She is using the EVER EFFECTIVE fifteen state strategy to win. How's it working so far.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:03 AM
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11. Here you go - attacked MoveOn.org
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 11:04 AM by sparosnare
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:52 AM
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2. Surely you don't think Obama is a lefty?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:55 AM
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4. he's a moderate -- But compared to Hillary's right-wing stance he's Karl Marx
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:01 AM
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6. He's not even Gordon Brown.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:01 AM
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10. Certainly he is.
Both in politics and in handed-ness.

By the way: trying to convince people that the pro-war candidate is to the left of the anti-war candidate is a waste of time.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:54 AM
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3. Truth is, by definition, inevitable. This is a woman whose purpose is
to protect the $tatu$ quo.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:55 AM
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5. The Goldwater Girl strikes again!


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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:04 AM
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7. I don't think they are going to react to it the way Clinton might expect if she had planned this.
#1 They want change. And MoveOn is about change to an extent.

#2 I don't think many thought Obama was not a left leaning candidate. Considering they both are.

#3 The few people it will effect somehow before PA primary will more than likely switch to Obama not Clinton.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:09 AM
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8. Once again, cant trust em is thrown under the bus by Clinton
Last week it's a comment about San Francisco. This week about us crazy activists. At least this officially takes me off the hook for working for her if she wins the nom. Good thing that she's not going to win that either.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:13 PM
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15. She thows Obama under the bus, now her base.. Amazing..
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:11 PM
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14. With her 100 million dollars, she is thinking twice about a dem taking her tax break..
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