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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:56 AM
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Hillary wouldn't pull a Liebermann and try a third party run would she?
She has shown herself to be pretty much consumed only by concern for herself and to hell with the party. She wouldn't try a 3rd party run would she? Or mount a write-in campaign that would draw enough votes away from the Dems to make gramps the president?
Is it too late to do all the crap needed for a third party?
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:56 AM
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1. She might try it but she lacks Lieberman's charisma (sarcasm!)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:58 AM
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2. No -- She'll just try to undermine Obama and wait for 2012
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:59 AM
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5. You are probably right.
That's not a whole lot better is it?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:09 AM
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10. I've no doubt, she'd do that.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:26 AM
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16. She's already doing it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:26 AM
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17. Will? I'd say that's her current strategy.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:59 AM
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3. Any such attempt would only guarantee a loss for her now and in 2012
Not that that would stop her, though...
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:59 AM
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4. she might try
She certainly sounds like Lieberman at this point.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:00 AM
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6. Not a chance
Of course if you are in to useless speculation and hypotheticals go right ahead and wonder.
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usrbs Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:00 AM
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7. of course she would
She's a Repub mole who's been planning this since her "Goldwater girl" days. God you people are pathetic.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:08 AM
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Why would she do that?
With the laser-beam vision, mind control abilities, and zombie minions it seems like there are simpler ways of subjugating the valiant and brave radio hosts.
:sarcasm:
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:04 AM
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8. I don't think so if only because
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:12 AM by 4themind
political self interest may rule the day. Lieberman won because he pulled enough independents and republicans (who had an incredibly weak challenger) to counter lamont's democratic base. Hillary would imo, really only split some of the democrats, while McCain would have a larger base of supporters among republicans and some independents(and certainly greater than the repub in liebermans race I'd bet). This would most likely result in him winning, but Hillary would have virtually NO chance of getting the democratic nomination in 2012 after a stunt like that. Lieberman won't and he ran for a senate seat, let alone the presidency.

The more likely scenario ,in my view, would be that she'd give an endorsement of obama, but her surrogates will have free reign.
Also, I would personally recommend for you to delete this topic, it will do little to generate good will among those who need to be embraced when the time comes. If she DOES go through with it, then there's good reason (and little potential ill effect here) in brining it up.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:08 AM
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9. She is calculating now the fallout of such a move
Could she do a third party run now and run as a Democrat in 2012 against McCain?

The other path is for her to run WITH McCain now (unity ticket) and succeed him in 2012 (assumes he leaves after 1 term)/

Both paths will alienate the Democratic base ( non DLC / yellow dog ). But then she appears ready to do that anyway (witness her attack yesterday on MoveOn). The calculation is how many votes will it cost... would it cause a Kucinich (or similar) run in 2012 which would divide the left and render it powerless, would it attract enough independents and Republicans to vote for her (plus her base) for her to win?

I'm pretty sure that all of these (and other) possibilities are being explored by her inner circle of advisers.

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:10 AM
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11. No. I would not expect that of her. See her remarks from the debate Wednesday night:
Well, Charlie, I'm going to do everything I possibly can to make sure that one of us takes the oath of office next January. I think that has to be the overriding goal, whatever we have to do.

Obviously we are still contesting to determine who will be the nominee. But once that is resolved, I think it is absolutely imperative that our entire party close ranks, that we become unified.

I will do everything to make sure that the people who supported me support our nominee.

<snip>

So we will certainly do whatever is necessary to make sure that a Democrat is in the White House next January.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16text-debate.html?pagewanted=print

Speaking for myself, as much as I would like to see Hillary become our next President, I would not support her as a third party candidate. If Obama is our nominee, as seems likely, I will support and vote for him in the GE.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:18 AM
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15. but who can believe anything she says? her words are worthless
--I had just been wondering the same thing, whether she might try to "not go away" as Lieberman did, by forming some new half-baked party (I'd call it the Republican Democrats for Clinton Party). The other idea mentioned above, of running with McCain, is very likely also being bandied about. If I were McCain and some incredible miracle happened by which I became president, I don't think I'd turn my back on that VP -- lol.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:15 AM
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12. No, because a small state like Connecticut made it more likely a 3 term Senator
would have enough backing to win as opposed to Clinton trying to win 60 million votes.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:15 AM
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13. I seriously doubt it
Hillary and Bill are both Democrats. They have some negatives (doesn't everybody?), but I don't see any way she would do a Lieberman.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:16 AM
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14. I would say no.
Nothing good would come of it, and she probably knows that.
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