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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:07 AM
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OK hubby just scared me half to death
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 10:11 AM by AZDemDist6
when Kerry wins, and Bush is lame duck til January and there is another terrorist attack here, can Bush then declare martial law and stop the transfer of power? :scared:

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:08 AM
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1. I would hope that people would not accept that.
A second terrorist attack would look suspicious. I think people would start calling for Bush's head.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:29 AM
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10. They wouldn't, but it would take time
This has been a persistent concern. The Bush criminal enterprise was willing to toss out the constitution, a body of law concerning state's rights, and a long tradition of limiting voter fraud to petty local concerns to seize power. That they would allow the "rabble" to deprive them of it is out of character.

However, they've lost the military, the CIA, the FBI, and much of their own party. I sincrely doubt they will be able to hang on to power for long, should they overturn an election and declare themselves the equivalent of royalty (which is what the pinchbeck Bushes have always wanted). My guess is that there will be great civil unrest followed by a military takeover of some description, should they decide to follow such a disastrous but predictable course.

Let's hope it doesn't come to this, but let's keep the faith if it does.
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hackwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:33 AM
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23. Wow, that's pretty sad...
...when we have to hope for a military or CIA coup. :)

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:08 AM
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2. Not practically.
There's isn't enough of a military left to declare martial law, I would think.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:10 AM
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3. i don't think the military would support it anyway, do you? n/t
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:10 AM
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4. Ask Scalia.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:13 AM
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5. Now that is an interestingly scary scenario!
Considering the pliable news media and sheepish citizenry and the rubber-stamp congress and of course obliging SC. I am at loss here - what do we expect and/or do?
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:16 AM
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6. you mean
Bush would plot the SECOND attack on American soil of his presidency? Your hubby might be onto something.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:20 AM
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9. I'm not making any accusations
but the more i think about it, the less likely I think the military will go along.

I figure that with the Bushit's ability to shoot themselves in the foot at every turn, they will do something phenomenally stupid in the next couple months
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:19 AM
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7. No. Conditions are not ripe enough
Democratic traditions are still far too rooted for that to fly. Even serious talk or leaks about that would set back the right wing by a decade or more. However if Bush is reelected, and they continue to undermine Democracy to the extent that they are able to be seen as plausibly seating another puppet President in 2008, at that point I can begin to conceive of scenarios like that as becoming plausible. If this crew gets 8 more years to consolidate power and propagate, I will be far more worried about the lack of any constraints on their power.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:20 AM
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8. since he can't win a third term
it would be no holds barred for bushie! he could do anything he wanted! and you can be sure whatever he does would lead directly to money going into the pockets of all his corporate chums.
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wjsander Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:03 AM
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11. I hope he does
Then the Republican Party would officially be dead.
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:05 AM
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21. Yeah but that party has died twice already
First Federalists, then Whigs, and now Republicans. They keep rearing their ugly heads.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:24 PM
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12. "Soldier, put down your gun!"
"I got to get to that phone to declare the marital law!"

"I'm sorry, sir. I can't let you do that."
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x_y_no Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:29 PM
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13. No way.
He'd have a revolution on his hands.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:55 PM
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14. AFTER Electoral College meets/votes.....Kerry IS PRESIDENT!
He does not have to be sworn in. I was concerned about this also; so I asked a poli sci professor at my college.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:31 PM
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15. kewl thanks n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 03:00 PM
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19. but isn't that in Jan? the EC doesn't meet right away do they? n/t
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:44 PM
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20. I beleive they meet in december
probably about a month b/t election and EC meeting, BUT if anything would happen to JK after the election and he already won, democrats would nominate someone in his place. Delegates are not pledged to nominee.So it would still be a democrat...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 01:32 AM
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22. They do meet in January
Because they cannot vote until the new Congress takes session in case of a tie.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 09:14 AM
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24. They meet December 13,2004
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Lefty Pragmatist Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 02:19 PM
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16. Tin foil hat time.
That aint gonna happen, folks. I remember the Freepers claiming that Clinton would use the 2000 vote controversy to extend his term indefinitely. Now you're doing the same thing.

Silly, silly, silly.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 02:28 PM
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17. didn't say it was logical, just scared me (and I am fearless)
ROFL
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 02:37 PM
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18. Martial law?
Him and what army?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 09:55 AM
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25. He's not the first person to believe such a scenario
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