Should Hillary be forced to apologize to "the activist base"?

[sasquatch]

For saying we didn't want to go into Afghanistan, we're unpatriotic, unamerican, and trying to correlate 9/11 with Iraq by lieing about our feelings about Afghanistan?

[havocmom]

1. Nah, just keep her 'errores and omissions' front an center for a few more days

Like the Titanic, she just keeps steaming into the ice field while her band plays on.

[SoFlaJet]

2. great analogy

havoc

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. unfortunately she is trying to take Obama down with her

and the Democratic Party

[Skidmore]

8. So let her sink and throw your support behind Obama and the DNC.

The DLC needs to go. They do nothing for the people whose money and time they want to give to the corporations. It is time to clean the White House and then we'll turn our attention to Capitol Hill. Plenty of disinfectant and open windows and sunshine. Let's get to the spring cleaning!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. draining the swamp

[Skidmore]

15. That's my plan.

I expect we'll start seeing quite a few pols flopping around and gasping for air in the next few months. It is time for change.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. If the general population was entirely aware what was going on?

I think people have to be somehow empowered that they can start being responsible too. Fortunately we have web based grass roots groups like Moveon - ordinary people who care but that's not enough. Most couldn't care less about who is in charge unless they start losing their homes and their jobs. These ones are now saying WTF? Hey what's going on after being asleep for 8 years.

[Skidmore]

18. We take it to them. With every disgruntled complaint, we take the

time to explain how that complaint came to be. And invite them to be part of solving problems. One person at a time. One invitation at a time.

[PoliticalAmazon]

21. Why support the DNC? They can't be bothered to stand up for us. n/t

[NightOwwl]

3. She's a Republican.

Republicans never apologize.

[ORDem]

36. You got that right! nt

:kick:

[blue sky at night]

5. why should she...

she is burning bridges every chance she gets. I really think (hope) this will ruin her electability for any office she may seek in the future. I would not accept it anyway, just like the repukes...they won't apologize and we should not accept ever. Am I trying to say she is just the same as the Repukes? HMMMMMMMM........

[The Traveler]

6. I wonder if she is going to do a Joe Lieberman on us

:shrug:

[mcctatas]

27. yikes...

on the first read, I missed the "a" between "do" and "Lieberman"....

[Voice for Peace]

29. agh, that is not a pretty picture

[The Traveler]

34. I could have gone my entire life without that image ...

... and been content. Thank you for sharing! :rofl:

[dkf]

7. Are we even surprised that she hates the anti-Iraq war crowd?

Look what I found-Hillary speaking to Code Pink before the Iraq War:

I admire your willingness to speak out on behalf of of the women and children of Iraq. There is a very easy way to prevent anyone from being put into harm’s way, and that is for Saddam Hussein to disarm. And I have absolutely no belief that he will. I have to say that this is something I have followed for more than a decade.

If he was serious about disarming, he would have been much more forthcoming coming. There may be progress, we may be destroying the Samoud missiles, but there is no accounting for the chemical and biological stocks. And I just respectfully disagree about what the proximate cause of any action that may be taken is.

Now I also believe that for now nearly 20 years the principal reason why women and children in Iraq have suffered is because of his leadership. His not only tyrannical and dictatorial leadership, but his reign of terror against women and children. And it is a — it is a very unfortunate situation for the Iraqi people that they have been so horribly misgoverned for so long.

Now, I do think that there are continuing discussions ongoing that I hope can make some further progress building on the success of the missile destruction program. But that has been the first real compliance, and it was only brought about when the inspectors discovered the missiles — they were not revealed — that their length was longer than what had been prescribed under the resolutions ending the Gulf War.

And the very difficult question for all of us is how does one bring about the disarmament of someone with such a proven track record of a commitment if not an obsession with weapons of mass destruction. And I ended up voting for the resolution after carefully reviewing the information and intelligence that I had available, talking with people whose opinions I trusted, trying to discount political or other factors that I didn’t believe should be in any way a part this decision.

And it is unfortunate that we are at the point of a potential military action to enforce the resolution. That is not my preference, it would be far preferable if we not only had legitimate cooperation from Saddam Hussein and a willingness on his part to disarm and account for his chemical and biological storehouses, but that if we had a much broader alliance and coalition.

But we are in a very difficult position right now. And so I would love to agree with you, but I can’t based on my own understanding and assessment of the situation.

In response to a question from an audience member:

… With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein. I just do not believe that given the attitudes of many people in the world community today that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems were it not for the United States leadership.

And I’m talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo, where my husband could not get a Security Council Resolution to save the the Kosavar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States. And we had to do it alone.

It would have been far preferable if the Russians and others had agreed to do it through the United Nations. They would not.

I’m happy that in the face of such horrible suffering we did act. And so I see it somewhat differently, if you’ll forgive me, from my experience and perspective.

I’m agreeing with you a hundred percent that even though I am willing to take a very difficult step for me to say we have to disarm this man. That position in no way supports the disastrous economic policies that this administration is pursuing. In fact I think that this is the height of irresponsibility.

And it would be far preferable to be more patient and more thoughtful and more willing to try to engender support with respect to Iraq. That is a decision that has to be made in the world community.

Here at home this administration is bankrupting our economy, forcing us to make the worst kinds of false choices between national and homeland security, which they don’t fund. And between security and everything else, which they don’t want to fund.

So you have me a hundred percent on that. And it is absolutely wrong — it is wrong that for the first time in American history we have a President who is talking about leading this country to war and wanting to cut taxes at the same time.

That is the height of cruel, arrogant irresponsibility.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-clintons-lies-about-iraq-caught-on-video-tape

[WillyT]

9. I Don't Want Her Apology... I Want Her Exit From The Race...

:shrug:

[scarletwoman]

10. Oh, hell no! I want her to keep telling me to my face that she hates me.

It keeps me strong.

[Orsino]

11. She should apologize to her supporters...

...for implying that they aren't activists, too.

[AllentownJake]

13. Nope

She can feel our wrath in 2012 when she has a primary challenger and we open up our pocket books since as an incumbent Obama won't have much of a Primary challenger.

[bunnies]

14. Screw her.

She can shove some forced apology up her ass. I dont want it. She and her surrogates have shat on me enough. Im totally done with her.

[BlooInBloo]

17. Hell no. She's only saying what she feels. She and her supporters simply hate Democrats...

... So let her and her supporters leave the party, and we'll move on just fine. That's what party realignment is all about.

[newmajority]

19. Fuck the apology, just end her train wreck of a campaign

If she "apologized", it would be a fucking lie anyway. We KNOW that the DLC despises the base of the Democratic party. Hillary just happened to get caught actually saying it.

[PoliticalAmazon]

20. DNC and DemoCelebrities should be standing up for us...

...They are showing us loud and clear how little we are worth to them, and that must mean our votes, too.

If they can't be bothered to stand up our votes, there are some of us that may not bother them with our votes in November.

[azmouse]

22. K&R

[ecdab]

23. I don't think progressives would believe such an apology was anything more

than base pandering. Screw 'er.

[City Lights]

24. Her apology would mean about as much to me as her promises: nothing.

The only thing I want to hear from her is a concession speech.

[Lisa0825]

25. It would mean nothing anyway. It would be only to try to save votes, not

because she actually rethought her position. She despises people like me. I already suspected that; she merely confirmed it.

[mcctatas]

26. She should denounce the statements and the idiot who made

them immediately! ;)

[Perry Logan]

28. Forced to apologize? By you and what army?

[sasquatch]

30. The KISS army

:silly:
By the DNC of course.

[guruoo]

31. MoveOn "General Betray Us" vote: Clinton a "No," Obama a No-Show

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5586091

[QueenOfCalifornia]

32. As part of the "activist base"

I don't give a rats ass what she does as long as she quits trying to help McCain with his war on Democrats. I would never expect her to apologize since she has no clue that Move On, the organization which the OP's quote is about, was formed to protect her husband when he was being impeached. How soon they forget.

[billyoc]

33. The DLC has been the enemy of the activist base from the word go.

To ask them to apologize for it now would be ludicrous.

[Coexist]

35. I don't need her apology

because I know it won't be genuine.

I just won't ever do anything to help her, since I'm part of the "they won't help us so screw 'em" crowd.

[stillcool]

37. No. The Clinton Campaign has...

been apologizing since this Primary began. Obviously their apologies don't mean shit.