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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:11 PM
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In a poll of Hillary supporters on DU
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 03:13 PM by CreekDog
23 said they'd be willing to vote for Obama if he's the nominee with no strings attached.
15 said they would NOT vote for Obama under any circumstances
Of those, 9 said they would vote for McCain :banghead:
3 said they'd vote for Obama only if Hillary is the VP

I'm an Obama supporter and I would vote for Barney the Purple Dinosaur if he got the nomination. As annoying as he is, he wouldn't appoint dumbasses to the supreme court, wouldn't blunder into a war (well less likely than McCain by a mile), wouldn't veto healthcare for kids, etc. etc.

Obviously Hillary is more acceptable to me than that and OF COURSE I would vote for her if she became the nominee.

So people, Obama supporters, Hillary supporters, you can vote for whomever you want to, but my request is that you not be dumbasses and think that you have to "like" or even "not hate" the nominee to think they are a better choice.

anyway, :rant:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2957344 (March 4th):

I will vote for Obama if he is the nominee, regardless of VP candidate (23 votes, 56%) Vote
I will only vote for Obama if Hillary is on the ticket as VP (3 votes, 7%) Vote
I will vote for McCain (9 votes, 22%) Vote
I will vote for Nadar (1 votes, 2%) Vote
I will just sit at home and not vote at all (5 votes, 12%) Vote
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:12 PM
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1. Thank you. Think of all the cabinet members who would be re-installed by McCain.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:13 PM
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2. I'd suspect a high percentage of internet tinkering in that poll.
We are all passionate about our candidates but anyone can pass themselves off as anything on this website. And those people are having fun with stirring up trouble.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:13 PM
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3. How do you know
if all the voters were actually Hillary supporters?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:15 PM
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5. My message was addressed to everybody
everybody should vote for the nominee, whether the nominee is Clinton or Obama or anyfreakingbody else.

as for the poll, anything is possible.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:44 PM
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14. But it's addressed to Hillary supporters
and since it's possible for anyone to vote --the results cannot be judged to be accurate.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:15 PM
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4. Do you really believe that those who took this poll are all Hillary supporters?
There aren't that many here. Anymore.

Also DUers are hardly a fair sample of your average Democrat.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:16 PM
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9. hello, that is not the point
:spank:

the point is to vote for the nominee and both Obama supporters and Clinton supporters would be smart to do that, even if they are disappointed in the choice. voting with ambivalence doesn't mean you are making a bad decision.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:15 PM
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6. Can I campaign for Cynthia McKinney but vote for Clinton privately?
just askin'

hey, I think it's a real moral dilemma for anyone that takes their differences seriously

on either side of the question

I do NOT think whining for "unity" while ignoring the differences has a positive effect

address the divisions and find common ground... honestly and squarely

It takes more than a shared enemy to create a coalition
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:19 PM
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11. THIS IS THE COMMON GROUND
ugh. the nominee, whomever it is, is the common ground.

and the common ground doesn't mean that we are all gonna like the compromises we are going to have to accept if we want someone decent to be appointing our next Supreme Court opening. Stevens is 88!

That's pretty good reason for me to say, "screw it, if Hillary gets the nod, I'll vote for her --she'll piss me off less than McCain" and she has a good chance of making me happy with a bunch of stuff too.

Same for Obama, although I'm a fan.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:15 PM
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7. Of those, 9 said they would vote for McCain ?
How many were women?

Tat would be a guaranteed vote to change the SCOTUS to overturn Roe v Wade. Is that what DU women want?

I wouldn't think so.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:16 PM
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8. A vote for McCain is a vote for the privilege of ponying up your own
$12,000+ a year for lousy insurance with a high deductible. That's right, McCain voters. Your boy John wants to take the health insurance deduction away from employers which means your employer will be taking health insurance away from you. Good, old John also wants to privatize social security. Given the recent economic ups and downs, that ought to make you feel real good. And, of course, there are the flag covered boxes that will keep coming back from Iraq. But, hey - you're free to vote for whichever candidate you want.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:17 PM
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10. Are you stupid enough to believe that your poll wasn't skewed by Obama supporters?
I mean, c'mon. You're seriously loony if you think that Obama supporters didn't vote in that poll.

Lots of time, I vote for the most ridiculous option in these dumb polls in GDP, just because I'm sick of dumb polls.

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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:26 PM
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12. AFAIC,
not voting for the Democratic nominee is exactly the same as rubberstampping your approval of the last 7+ years of HWBush.

Vote for Nader, vote for McCain, write in Clinton/Obama (whichever is NOT the nominee), write in Mickey Mouse or whoever. It all amounts to less votes for the Democratic nominee, and a better chance for a McCain victory.
As for me, I will work against the neocon agenda, and if that means voting for a nominee I'm less than thrilled with, at least, I'll comfort myself with knowing there's less blood on my hands.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:42 PM
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13. I want Clinton to be the one to appoint Supreme Court Justices
Fight On Hillary.
Take it to the convention.
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