crankychatter
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:44 PM
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If Bush attacks Iran before the Primaries are concluded |
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Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 05:46 PM by crankychatter
If Bush attacks Iran before the Primary Season is concluded... and before we have a candidate...
HOW, will this effect the outcome?
Will Clinton get a bump because of her "strong on defense" Iran statements? Does she know something Obama doesn't?
Will she be perceived as the Semi-incumbent in a "time of war," and get votes in that way?
Will Obama be castigated in the Press?
WILL THIS EFFECT YOUR VOTE?
I should add that pundits and analysts from Ritter to freakin' Buchanan and all shades in between... HAVE PREDICTED THIS.
It's a REAL possibility.
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:47 PM
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All I can tell you is I'll be in the street protesting.
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:48 PM
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I know... I'm sweetness and light, eh?
no wonder my stuff sinks...
but, at least I can laugh at myself
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:48 PM
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2. It would guarantee a Republican loss in Nov |
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:07 PM
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11. Might it guarantee martial law, the suspension of elections and the permanence of the mad emperor's |
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:28 PM
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16. Only if an attack were arranged here.. |
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:49 PM
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4. I don't think he'd do it before the primaries are over |
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He'd do it right before the general election.
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:59 PM
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7. Right before they declare a state of emergency. nt |
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:53 PM
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5. Biden has stated that he will |
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use all the power he has as Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to strongly urge Congress to impeach.
I don't think Clinton would get a bump. I don't see how the American people would accept ANOTHER invasion, and with her Kyl-Lieberman vote, she in essence would have supported it.
And why would Obama be castigated in the press? He's advocated working with Iran, as have those who TRULY understand diplomacy and what it takes to nurture peace.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:01 PM
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8. I think Iran has always BEEN the target personally |
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and I think the MSM, is in collusion with War Profiteers
it won't be a full scale invasion
it will be spot fighting... air strikes with diversionary issues in Lebanon, Syria and Israel
The assertion that logistical support for the insurgencies and militias is coming from Iran has been building in the media for a very long time
Obama would be portrayed as NOT having supported the legislation that Clinton supported that Bush will USE, to legitimize his actions.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:07 PM
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12. I think the SFRC would loudly make it clear |
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what bullshit such an action was. And there are some no-bullshit speakers on that committee. Biden, Dodd, Hagel, Kerry, to name a few. I think they'd raise hell and it would reflect poorly on HRC and not on Obama.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:11 PM
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14. hope you're right but remember, they command the airwaves |
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people will rally around the flag every time...
I think conflict prior to our achieving a nominee would benefit the pro-war elements in our government and in the corporate, neocon world...
Clinton is perceived as reliable, by AIPAC and others... they can't risk Obama...
that's my thinking
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:37 PM
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18. but who believes what they.. |
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see on the airwaves? I am really tired of people assuming that what was, is what will be. This country has not been in such dire straits for a lifetime. Otherwise we certainly would not be seeing what we are.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:39 PM
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19. Good point about rallying 'round the flag. |
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But I think at this time, with the extenuating circumstances, people may just not buy it. AIPAC adds another dimension, though, so :shrug:
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Sat Apr-19-08 05:57 PM
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6. He wont.. Just like he was going to start the draft.. never happened... |
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it would take longer to start such a conflict then he has left in his term.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:04 PM
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9. The Draft will occur only after gradual expansion of conflict |
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to retain public support, or at minimum, public complacency
Biden's bid for impeachment will be minimized by the Gulf of Tonkin style justification for attack
the Senate will roll over, with Clinton's help
only the House will rebel
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:41 PM
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there are plenty of global security corporations that can supply soldiers from all over the world.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:59 PM
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22. How long does it take to launch 50 cruise missiles? |
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We're not talking about invading Iran. More about missile strikes, which will spark retaliation by Iran (anti-ship missiles against the fleet), which will in turn kick of the planned limited nuclear response.
Bush wants to try out those bunker busters.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:05 PM
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10. It would depend on his "reason" for doing so. |
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If there's an attack of some sort he can conveniently blame on Iran, then everything's up up for grabs, imho.
I think he is going to have to have a damn good reason to do any sort of attack on Iran. Even if it's a manufactured reason, it would have to be something on the level of 9/11, wouldn't it? I mean, a lot of people, left and right are pretty pissed about the whole going to Iraq thing on false pretenses at this stage. I know it's a huge possibility based on Ritter, et al, but I can't imagine they could pull it off without something pretty significant to rally people to support something like that.
I dunno, maybe i'm just not getting it...
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:07 PM
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13. The bombing of the Mosque in Nasariyah was not done by Muslims |
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had negroponte's fingerprints all over it
yes... 9-11 level but it won't be against us here... it will be against our troops and probably Sunni Arabs...
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:40 PM
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20. and look what happened there... |
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it started the whole "civil war" meme. Nothing is as it seems in Iraq, and I do not believe there are many Americans' that believe any of the bullshit coming out of this government.
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:25 PM
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15. If it comes to murdering Iranians, $10 gallon gas would be a Good start for strangling the amurikans |
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Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 06:26 PM by Broadslidin
:nuke: :patriot: :nuke:
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Sat Apr-19-08 06:30 PM
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17. The new Iranian Bourse is trading in ALL currencies I believe |
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Sun Apr-20-08 02:32 PM
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24. In a so far wise financial decision, Iran writes crude oil contracts in Euros & Japanese Yen |
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As the Iranians now 'rubber stamp' proposed oil contracts in U.S. :rofl: dollars with (roughly translated) "Phooey"....!
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Sat Apr-19-08 07:17 PM
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23. He calls for strike on Iran... |
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And then the GOP pushs McCain as the war hero - all americans gasp and become scared of the bad terrorists and think to themselves, we need a former POW war hero to save us.
McCain is elected president. Americans have already done it twice.
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Tue Apr-22-08 09:25 PM
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CIC Cheney can take over:patriot:
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